Maybe we fire him mid season, or he fucks up and we finish 2nd and we kick him out come season's end.
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Try your best to keep your filthy peasant nature in check and conduct yourself like a true gentleman while you're here. I will try my best to support you, but I am definitely never going to like you or approve of you because you embody all the values that contradict everything Juventus stands for.- - - Updated - - -
We can only hope.
I'm a bit disappointed we hired Sarri. I would have preferred Guardiola, Pochettino and even Gasperini (aha, I was always in the secret society of Gasp lovers). That said, there is a spectrum that you should use to evaluate coaches. It's not as simple as bad or good. I will try to list some quick pros and cons that I see with Sarri below!
Pros:
- There will be an identity to our play style. It's always easier for players to be comfortable when they know the formation and the movements expected and they play the same position every match.
- 4-3-3/winger based formation. I think it's an anomaly to win nowadays without a winger based formation (teams without Ronaldo/Messi).
- Winning the ball higher up the pitch. Counter-pressing has come en vogue as teams realize that your best attack will come from simply winning the ball off defenders.
- Play between the lines. One of the number one requirements for Guardiola. If you can get the ball into these areas, your attack will be at its best. This was a major weakness for us in the past.
- Quicker transition and threat of counter.
- Strong defensive organization and compactness when the game is going as expected (I think his team loses this if the game goes in an unexpected direction).
- Fitness. Has always had a decent fitness record. For sure it will be better than our previous years, even if it's average.
- The impetus and confidence to attack. I think he brings a confidence to the players that they are free to attack. And they will know each other's movements. I think the game nowadays heavily incentivizes teams that are willing to attack. Choosing to defend for most of the match has become much harder with the strict refereeing and the endless possibilities of disaster if the opponent plays in your box. Think of VAR giving out penalties for any handball as well.
Cons:
- Lo Stilo Juve. He doesn't have it.
- Mentality. Weak. Excuses in the media are pathetic. Questions over whether that transmits to his team. Imagine Ronaldo thinking of some of the excuses Sarri has produced in the past. It's a laugh. You can only hope Chiellini, Ronaldo, etc. can counter balance this.
- Lack of tactical flexibility/pragmatism. I listed an identity as a positive. But if you play that way 100% of the time instead of 90%, you're probably too stubborn. There will be times when the opponent presents a clear threat to Sarri's preferred tactic and he will not change. Big problem that he must rectify.
- Lack of rotation. For me, this one is in doubt as he has never had squad depth like he will have here. But there's no question rotation is needed if you want to win UCL.
- Possession. I listed this as a negative as I find most of the time it's useless. Particularly when playing out of the back, I find his team takes huge risks that are usually unnecessary.
- Defensive counters. His teams will usually be open on the counter. Even if they're winning. In attack, the midfield moves into scattered positions so if they lose the ball, it's hard to run enough to get back into the necessary defensive positions.
- High press in bad situations. As I said, I like high pressing, but there's always a risk. If he intends to high press and leave Bonucci and Pjanic at the halfway line, it's just not going to work, I'm sorry.
- Time. Will he have enough time to hit his top gear? His contract is only 2 years with an option? If he doesn't meet expectations in his first season, the heat will already be on him. He must adapt VERY quickly.
General thoughts: Most likely we'll win the Scudetto and lose the UCL. As we've done over and over. I think our top level depends heavily on the mercato. If you can build Sarri's Napoli with the best players, you might have a higher ceiling or higher top form than most Juve's we've seen in the past. But if you try to build it with square pegs in round holes, it can go south very, very fast. This is not Allegri who will tinker to fit the pieces.
Pros:
- There will be an identity to our play style. It's always easier for players to be comfortable when they know the formation and the movements expected and they play the same position every match.
- 4-3-3/winger based formation. I think it's an anomaly to win nowadays without a winger based formation (teams without Ronaldo/Messi).
- Winning the ball higher up the pitch. Counter-pressing has come en vogue as teams realize that your best attack will come from simply winning the ball off defenders.
- Play between the lines. One of the number one requirements for Guardiola. If you can get the ball into these areas, your attack will be at its best. This was a major weakness for us in the past.
- Quicker transition and threat of counter.
- Strong defensive organization and compactness when the game is going as expected (I think his team loses this if the game goes in an unexpected direction).
- Fitness. Has always had a decent fitness record. For sure it will be better than our previous years, even if it's average.
- The impetus and confidence to attack. I think he brings a confidence to the players that they are free to attack. And they will know each other's movements. I think the game nowadays heavily incentivizes teams that are willing to attack. Choosing to defend for most of the match has become much harder with the strict refereeing and the endless possibilities of disaster if the opponent plays in your box. Think of VAR giving out penalties for any handball as well.
Cons:
- Lo Stilo Juve. He doesn't have it.
- Mentality. Weak. Excuses in the media are pathetic. Questions over whether that transmits to his team. Imagine Ronaldo thinking of some of the excuses Sarri has produced in the past. It's a laugh. You can only hope Chiellini, Ronaldo, etc. can counter balance this.
- Lack of tactical flexibility/pragmatism. I listed an identity as a positive. But if you play that way 100% of the time instead of 90%, you're probably too stubborn. There will be times when the opponent presents a clear threat to Sarri's preferred tactic and he will not change. Big problem that he must rectify.
- Lack of rotation. For me, this one is in doubt as he has never had squad depth like he will have here. But there's no question rotation is needed if you want to win UCL.
- Possession. I listed this as a negative as I find most of the time it's useless. Particularly when playing out of the back, I find his team takes huge risks that are usually unnecessary.
- Defensive counters. His teams will usually be open on the counter. Even if they're winning. In attack, the midfield moves into scattered positions so if they lose the ball, it's hard to run enough to get back into the necessary defensive positions.
- High press in bad situations. As I said, I like high pressing, but there's always a risk. If he intends to high press and leave Bonucci and Pjanic at the halfway line, it's just not going to work, I'm sorry.
- Time. Will he have enough time to hit his top gear? His contract is only 2 years with an option? If he doesn't meet expectations in his first season, the heat will already be on him. He must adapt VERY quickly.
General thoughts: Most likely we'll win the Scudetto and lose the UCL. As we've done over and over. I think our top level depends heavily on the mercato. If you can build Sarri's Napoli with the best players, you might have a higher ceiling or higher top form than most Juve's we've seen in the past. But if you try to build it with square pegs in round holes, it can go south very, very fast. This is not Allegri who will tinker to fit the pieces.
Winning makes everything easier to tolerate. Being a newbie I don't know the story behind Sarri flipping off Juve, the guy smokes like a fucking chimney and seems to lack the type of class that Juve fans have come to expect from the organization based on what I've read. That being said, we have one of the greatest offensive weapons in soccer history in CR7 and we now have a coach that prides himself on playing an offensive brand of football. If the club can add some more firepower especially in the midfield, this could be a great match going forward. Welcome Sarri, get the job done.
