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Ertuğrul Oğlu Osman
Oct 20, 2004
1,992
Former Juventus director Luciano Moggi has hit out at Maurizio Sarri for “always looking for excuses. It’s bad for football.” - FI.

So, Cobolli Gigli is not allowed to comment Juventus actions because he wasn't successful himself. What about Moggi? His opinion might be irrelevant when it comes to the transfer market predictions, but the man surely knows a thing or two about the top club management.
Ok lets say they are right , what we should do as a fans ....

For me as am just a binay fan living in cyber space :ratcafe:, i would say , damn boy this shit is gonna be serious .... :depressed:

What to do tell me ?

This year feel a lot odd supporting this club , many thing going wrong on top of that hiring deeply rooted Napolitano to coach us that his family support Fiorentina .... tell me what we should do?

Or still relying on khaderon , Mutoden , Ragono and signing Ramsey and the likes ...tell me what to do ?

Honestly, this year is distant for big fail in Serie A and CL ... we just try to find the good and hide our defects ... but seems inevitable to me, we will have disastrous year , but hope it is not

Thank you
 

DS8_Montero

Senior Member
Aug 10, 2018
653
Everyone is making excuses all the time. u fuck up at work, ofc ur gonna come up with excuse for mistakes. Moggi, Lippi, Capello, Allegri, Marotta... the list goes on.
Cannot agree with that. There are two types of people: those who can admit their failure, and those who cannot, looking for an excuse instead. Allegri had no problems with admitting his mistakes, while with Sarri it's always someone/something else is responsible for his failures (weather, schedule, etc.). That's stubbornness multiplied by cowardice, and that's why it's disgusting.
 

Vlad

Delusional
May 23, 2011
18,475
Cannot agree with that. There are two types of people: those who can admit their failure, and those who cannot, looking for an excuse instead. Allegri had no problems with admitting his mistakes, while with Sarri it's always someone/something else is responsible for his failures (weather, schedule, etc.). That's stubbornness multiplied by cowardice, and that's why it's disgusting.
I disagree about Allegri. I will love the guy till death and I hope he returns one day but did he admit mistakes last season? We got ripped apart by young Ajax side. Instead he talked about quality of players... Last season we had great opportunity to go all the way but the team looked fatigued, burnt out already by January. He completely messed up our preparations. Our fitness levels as the season was nearing to an end (march-may) looked horiffic.
 
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DS8_Montero

Senior Member
Aug 10, 2018
653
Ok lets say they are right , what we should do as a fans ....

For me as am just a binay fan living in cyber space :ratcafe:, i would say , damn boy this shit is gonna be serious .... :depressed:

What to do tell me ?

This year feel a lot odd supporting this club , many thing going wrong on top of that hiring deeply rooted Napolitano to coach us that his family support Fiorentina .... tell me what we should do?

Or still relying on khaderon , Mutoden , Ragono and signing Ramsey and the likes ...tell me what to do ?

Honestly, this year is distant for big fail in Serie A and CL ... we just try to find the good and hide our defects ... but seems inevitable to me, we will have disastrous year , but hope it is not

Thank you
I'm afraid, my solution won't be acceptable. After 20 years of follwing the club, this spring I completely lost my inner connection with Juventus, so now I don't watch games and don't really care about transfers, results, etc. The only reason I'm here is that, well, Tuz is a great place, and I still have those 20 years of useless football knowledge in my head, so I just casually hang out in here from time to time, staying away from the discussions that require that you are an active fan.
 

JCK

Biased
Premium
May 11, 2004
111,394
Im no fan of him either but pls why would u repeat the same stuff over and over again? For someone u hate, you spent an awful lot time here, prolly one of top post counts in this thread. :p

I log in to see some news here but have to scroll through several pages every time :lol: relax a bit, man. Its all a game.

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Eh...Those decisions over the summer. I felt like person in charge was bipolar...
I have no life apparently
 

DS8_Montero

Senior Member
Aug 10, 2018
653
I disagree about Allegri. I will love the guy till death and I hope he returns one day but did he admit mistakes last season? We got ripped apart by young Ajax side. Instead he talked about quality of players... Last season we had great opportunity to go all the way but the team looked fatigued, burnt out already by January. He completely messed up our preparations. Our fitness levels as the season was nearing to an end (march-may) looked horiffic.
Last season was weird on many levels. But the low quality of the players in the midfield was an objective reality - "non-existent midfield" were two the most popular words on Tuz last season. So, when Max was talking about that, it didn't look like an excuse but rather like a cry of desperation. He lost it, I agree with that (his comments to the press when the season was nearing its end were cringeworthy sometimes). Another season without a proper midfield turned out to be unbearable for him. But even in this case he called the problem by its name. It might look like an excuse, but in this case it was an excuse that was impossible to argue with.

Anyway, it was only 1 season out of 5. The first four were completely different. With Sarri it's always the same.
 

MikeM

Senior Member
Sep 21, 2008
8,907
Im no fan of him either but pls why would u repeat the same stuff over and over again? For someone u hate, you spent an awful lot time here, prolly one of top post counts in this thread. :p

I log in to see some news here but have to scroll through several pages every time :lol: relax a bit, man. Its all a game.
I sometimes have to double check if I clicked the right thread. Is it Sarri thread, Serie A, Match thread, etc? It's all the same posts. I somehow get lost on the forum. :howler:
 

Hængebøffer

Senior Member
Jun 4, 2009
24,714
Most of them want us to fail so they can brag at the end of the season.
I wouldn't be surprised if they rooted for Fiorentina.

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No. That’s only fake plastic phaggots like you. Because we’re actual Juve fans and if you knew anything about this club, you would bitch about the direction this club has taken too. And you should despise a guy like Sarri who’s everything the club is not and he never hid the fact that he’s anti Juve.
 

kao_ray

Senior Member
Feb 28, 2014
4,867
No. That’s only fake plastic phaggots like you. Because we’re actual Juve fans and if you knew anything about this club, you would bitch about the direction this club has taken too. And you should despise a guy like Sarri who’s everything the club is not and he never hid the fact that he’s anti Juve.
I'm expecting Sarri to be an epic fail, but it would be one of the happiest days for me if he brings us the CL trophy.
 

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
11,868
Wait, let's get things straight, is panicking and whining the same thing? Let's answer this question first then we can continue.

Also, I fall in the second category easily. I complain about the team before playing and it is not because "it's like I don't like someone", it is exactly because "I don't like Sarri"

It seems like my posint irritates some people to the point that they whine about it, or is it panic?
Panicking and whining are two different things but they can relate.
You definitely fall into the second category which resulted in my dislike in the past which resulted 1027 dislikes from your side...
I personally dont like either and even if I dont like Sarri`s style of play - He is now our coach so we should at least give him the benefit of a doubt as we cannot really judge his work right now can we?!
As for Paratici - I honestly dont know what people expect
We got a defender which we and all the other elite clubs wanted and is taught to be the next big thing.
We got Demiral who didnt even play yet and I rate him very high.
We got Rabiot and Ramsey on a free transfer and both should really upgrade our mid when integrated - I would have expected minutes from Rabiot vs Fiorentina but we cant really blame Sarri for not subbing in Rabiot when we were forced into 3 subs due to injuries...
The only place if any to be really disappointed is our winger status which no one actually talks about - We have D.Costa who is great. We have Ronaldo who is phenomenal and we have Higuain/Bernardeschi (depends on where you put Ronaldo) - Both are just not good enough even if both are not "Jabronis"...
Higuain is too heavy while Bernardeschi has everything needed to succeed yet he doesnt.
Chiesa although not at the level we want would have helped due to his characteristics and Im not going to talk about Neymar as Im not sure if he is even possible..
Now D.C is out which means Bernardeschi steps in and D.C can do things that help you build pressure while Bernardeschi like I said before "can do it" yet he cant..

Anyway this is the team we have now so lets wait and see if we win some or not and then decide if someone is crap or not..
 

DS8_Montero

Senior Member
Aug 10, 2018
653
I'm 100% sure you and the facsimile demanded Allegri get fired in September in the season we made a comeback and thought we'd finish outside top-3.
I don't care what you are sure about and I'm not going to explain you anything, because I see no point in communication with people like you. To be honest, I added you to my ignore list long time ago (several months after I joined this forum) because all you write here in every other post is "lol" and other similarly cohesive things. But, unfortunately, recently I had to stop using the ignore list because responses to the ignored posts by other members are displayed as if they were those users' original posts, which is confusing. Just wanted to let you know this, so that you don't waste your time on me since I'm not going to waste mine on you.
 

pavluska

Senior Member
Apr 25, 2013
4,050
I don't care what you are sure about and I'm not going to explain you anything, because I see no point in communication with people like you. To be honest, I added you to my ignore list long time ago (several months after I joined this forum) because all you write here in every other post is "lol" and other similarly cohesive things. But, unfortunately, recently I had to stop using the ignore list because responses to the ignored posts by other members are displayed as if they were those users' original posts, which is confusing. Just wanted to let you know this, so that you don't waste your time on me since I'm not going to waste mine on you.
Of course you can't explain anything. I hit it on the nail. Your reaction confirms it. "Lol."
 

kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
1,244
No. That’s only fake plastic phaggots like you. Because we’re actual Juve fans and if you knew anything about this club, you would bitch about the direction this club has taken too. And you should despise a guy like Sarri who’s everything the club is not and he never hid the fact that he’s anti Juve.
Oaauuu. I ain't even bother to respond. I seem to have struck a cord. Gonna use my ignore function on you.

PS. LOL calling me a plastic fan when it's you who goes ape shit when things doesn't go your way and you say you don't even want to watch matches. Guess what buddy real fans watch and support the team regardless of who is coach and how our club is runned.Next time when you mention something about plastic fans you should look in the mirror.
 
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Mokku

Junior Member
Apr 17, 2019
333
Hysterical people here. We beat our main rival Napoli with Khedira and Matuidi starting. We drew away after losing three starters to injury against a spirited Fiorentina. We looked like clowns at Atlético last year but were excellent in the return.
 

DAiDEViL

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2015
39,121
I don't care what you are sure about and I'm not going to explain you anything, because I see no point in communication with people like you. To be honest, I added you to my ignore list long time ago (several months after I joined this forum) because all you write here in every other post is "lol" and other similarly cohesive things. But, unfortunately, recently I had to stop using the ignore list because responses to the ignored posts by other members are displayed as if they were those users' original posts, which is confusing. Just wanted to let you know this, so that you don't waste your time on me since I'm not going to waste mine on you.
The ignorelist works way better than on the old forum, basically making users and their posts disappear for you completely.

But sometimes you just have to click "show ignored content" to keep up and check if a well respected user has just made a seriously stupid post, OR if it was just a sarcastic response to a post of a retard who happens to be on your ignorelist, and is therefore invisible for you.
 

pavluska

Senior Member
Apr 25, 2013
4,050
I don't get it. How do these people function in everyday life? Is this a socialism thing where your bosses can't fire you for being challenged individuals or can't put any pressure on you bc they're not allowed to?

How does someone who have frequent meltdowns on a message board have the mental fortitude to run half-marathons? Clearly a troll.