Bs, lots of Licht performances are on this level, but people priase him for being a fighter even when the ball isnt lkstening to him. Isla busted his balls for us in this game.
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Of course Licht has had similar performances. Which I then call average as well.
It's simple, if what I saw yesterday is supposed to be a good game for Isla, then all hope is lost for me.
I will admit that he worked his ass off. So did Asamoah, but no one seems to be impressed with him yesterday. And rightfully so.
Here's what I remember from Isla:
- He intercepted the ball 0 times.
- He cleared the ball 0 times.
- Not quite sure how many passes he misplaced, but it felt like a lot.
- Don't think he ever went past his marker (which, amusingly enough, Asamoah did manage to).
- In terms of crossing, you're talking of +/- 1 in 4 that ends up somewhere remotely useful.
- Had a major hand in us conceding.
It's simple, if what I saw yesterday is supposed to be a good game for Isla, then all hope is lost for me.
I will admit that he worked his ass off. So did Asamoah, but no one seems to be impressed with him yesterday. And rightfully so.
Here's what I remember from Isla:
- He intercepted the ball 0 times.
- He cleared the ball 0 times.
- Not quite sure how many passes he misplaced, but it felt like a lot.
- Don't think he ever went past his marker (which, amusingly enough, Asamoah did manage to).
- In terms of crossing, you're talking of +/- 1 in 4 that ends up somewhere remotely useful.
- Had a major hand in us conceding.
Licht averagely manages to complete 80-85% of his passes and has about 50 attempts per game. As I said he's more involved compared to before. Nothing impressive certainly but I think it was rather positive performance not worth of criticism.
Well pay more attention next time or at least check some stats before commenting anyone's performance.
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Just select the game and bellow you have player's and team's stats.
http://www.tuttosport.com/live/matchcentre/risultati.shtml?competition=21
Well pay more attention next time or at least check some stats before commenting anyone's performance.
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Just select the game and bellow you have player's and team's stats.
http://www.tuttosport.com/live/matchcentre/risultati.shtml?competition=21
Licht averagely manages to complete 80-85% of his passes and has about 50 attempts per game. As I said he's more involved compared to before. Nothing impressive certainly but I think it was rather positive performance not worth of criticism.
Well pay more attention next time or at least check some stats before commenting anyone's performance.
Well pay more attention next time or at least check some stats before commenting anyone's performance.
Do me a favour: can you back these stats up with footage. One or two interceptions will do, no need for all 5 of them.
Don't
I know. Easily among our weaker players, even though the stats will show you he was better than Isla
Not familiar with the term footage?
Here's the thing about your Tuttosport link. I've checked it out & compared their data (for Isla) with other sites (Whoscored, Gazzetta). Either Tuttosport is wrong or both others are.
For what it's worth, La Stampa, who I often agree with when it comes to their analysis of the match & their ratings gave Isla a rating of 5. Which is too harsh, obviously.
Here's the thing about your Tuttosport link. I've checked it out & compared their data (for Isla) with other sites (Whoscored, Gazzetta). Either Tuttosport is wrong or both others are.
For what it's worth, La Stampa, who I often agree with when it comes to their analysis of the match & their ratings gave Isla a rating of 5. Which is too harsh, obviously.
Be serious. Where the hell am I supposed to find one? Stats should do it.
Both Corriere and Tuttosport have the same stats. I prefer domestic sources and post me that link from Gazzeta if you don't mind.
Ratings are almost always subjective and I tend to avoid them, as you can find very different ratings around. It's basically someone else's personal experience of the game, which is good if you haven't seen the game in the first place and don't intend to.
Both Corriere and Tuttosport have the same stats. I prefer domestic sources and post me that link from Gazzeta if you don't mind.
Ratings are almost always subjective and I tend to avoid them, as you can find very different ratings around. It's basically someone else's personal experience of the game, which is good if you haven't seen the game in the first place and don't intend to.
http://www.gazzetta.it/trsport/temp...atch_config=717594.json&comp=21&day=4&sv=true
Confronto giocatori thingy. Similar to how Corriere works.
I'm gonna stop checking stats now, because the more I check, the more I'm pointed in a strange direction. After yesterday's game, I felt that Asamoah was at best average, nowhere near good & definitely not better than Isla.
While the stats seem to prove Isla was actually below average & Asamoah was, in fact, really good.
See, this discussion started of with me saying Isla was not above average yesterday. In trying to prove that he was, you just made me realize he may have been worse than I initially gave him credit for. Amusing, to say the least.
Confronto giocatori thingy. Similar to how Corriere works.
I'm gonna stop checking stats now, because the more I check, the more I'm pointed in a strange direction. After yesterday's game, I felt that Asamoah was at best average, nowhere near good & definitely not better than Isla.
While the stats seem to prove Isla was actually below average & Asamoah was, in fact, really good.
See, this discussion started of with me saying Isla was not above average yesterday. In trying to prove that he was, you just made me realize he may have been worse than I initially gave him credit for. Amusing, to say the least.
I'll add to Tuttosport's cause by saying that they provide more data, which could be indicator of more comprehensive analysis. You can see stats are divided into 3 sections and overall they follow roughly around 30 stats, while Gazzetta focuses on 12 of them. Of course it could mean more mistakes as well.
As for the game I had a thought that both of them put in above average performance and contributed to our style of play in a very different way.
As for the game I had a thought that both of them put in above average performance and contributed to our style of play in a very different way.
If one points out performance indicators that are entirely linked to statistics (pass completion and interceptions) and one is then faced with said statistical evidence that debunks one's preconceptions, then all one needs to do is re-pivot and claim that statistics aren't the whole picture.
It's a magical, magical way of arguing.
It's a magical, magical way of arguing.
