Massimiliano Allegri (248 Viewers)

[CrimsonianKing]

Let's not forget that Allegri still had a great first run. His second run was terrible, but his first run still earns him a place as a legend.

No, you mean let's forget.

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Actually no, I thought you meant his first season back. His first run was obviously great.

 

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[Ventus]

did he have a great run? did he really?

or did he have a great selection of world class players to carry the team depsite his insane tactics

Yes he did, between 2015- 2019 seasons. The players were always chopped and changed. Allegri also transformed Juventus into serious CL contenders, defeating the likes of Man City, Barcelona and Real Madrid. We were a laughing stock of Europe for decades before this, and hadn't made it the semi finals since Lippi in 2003.
I'm more than happy to concede and accept that he had a terrible second run and he clearly dated. However let's not try and rewrite history regarding his first.

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No, you mean let's forget.

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Actually no, I thought you meant his first season back. His first run was obviously great.

Yep. First run great, second run terrible. I don't mind the criticism but the revisionist history is cringe.

 

[Post Ironic]

Eternally enamored with the title of “football terrorist”

Won 12 trophies for the club with Jihadi football terrorism. That’s the stuff of true legends.

Glad he’s gone though

 

[BetterCallSaul]

He set us behind so we can move forward, thanks Allegropoli

He almost drowned us so we could learn how to breathe

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Move to rookies

 

[Badass J Elkann]

I hope @Patrizi isn't missing matches for the first time in 30 years because Allegri didn't get this season to prove his worth

 

[Ronn]

Won 12 trophies for the club with Jihadi football terrorism. That’s the stuff of true legends.

Glad he’s gone though

No doubt about his first stint. But he became a caricature in his second stint when he didn’t have a good squad. The football of last 3 years was the worst I can remember.

 

[Wings]

This man was a saint. With his departure, many people will start having to use sleeping pills again.

I remember pre gaming Como's game with coffee.
Yesterday I had to take melatonin at half time.

 

[Brny44]

I hope @Patrizi isn't missing matches for the first time in 30 years because Allegri didn't get this season to prove his worth

With allegri gone, patshitsi is gone.

 

[Xperd]

Allegro is a JJ legend, nothing can change that and he actually left on decent terms in the end. Winning a trophy and taking a minimal severence package.

But I don't remember another high profile coach fall off so quickly. Went from one of the top coaches in Europe to a Del Neri regen. Even Mourinho's decline was gradual.

I'm sure he'll stick by his 'philosophy' in his next job too but he shouldn't be anywhere near a big club again.

 

[Amer]

And @Amer wanted another dinosaur coach instead of Motta lol.

Bro I have my expectations which are quite high. I have been following Juve for 30 years. I wanted Zidane and Klopp. If they are dinosaur coaches then I don't know what to say bro. Is Ancelotti a dinosaur? He's a grandpa and he's still winning the most important trophies while we chase 4th place every year now.

 

[Vlad]

Ancelotti is without a doubt a great manager but he is coaching Real, and to them CL trophy is like a Scudetto to Juve.

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Id take Motta easily over Kloppo or Zidane

 

[campionesidd]

With allegri gone, patshitsi is gone.

I liked Patrizi. He was a nice guy.

 

[Toro_Merda]

Bro I have my expectations which are quite high. I have been following Juve for 30 years. I wanted Zidane and Klopp. If they are dinosaur coaches then I don't know what to say bro. Is Ancelotti a dinosaur? He's a grandpa and he's still winning the most important trophies while we chase 4th place every year now.

Bro, If you have been following Juve for 30 years, then you must remember how Anceloti lost the title while leading the whole time and losing 4 of the last 6-7 remaining games in the campain... I will never ever forgive him that!

 

[Ventus]

Allegro is a JJ legend, nothing can change that and he actually left on decent terms in the end. Winning a trophy and taking a minimal severence package.

But I don't remember another high profile coach fall off so quickly. Went from one of the top coaches in Europe to a Del Neri regen. Even Mourinho's decline was gradual.

I'm sure he'll stick by his 'philosophy' in his next job too but he shouldn't be anywhere near a big club again.

He also won the league with an aging AC MIlan team in 2011 and somehow took an Ibra/Thiago-less Milan into 3rd. IMO Allegri is better referred to as dated rather than a 'fraud.'

He was great in the 2010s but his style of play is not compatible in the modern game. There was signs of early decline in his last season in 2019. However he's been awful since the 2020s. Goes to show you how great Alex Ferguson truly was though.

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Ancelotti is without a doubt a great manager but he is coaching Real, and to them CL trophy is like a Scudetto to Juve.

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Id take Motta easily over Kloppo or Zidane

ppl forget that Real Madrid went 12 years without winning the CL between 2002 to 2014. It was Ancelotti who broke that streak.

 

[Brny44]

I liked Patrizi. He was a nice guy.

Just that he liked allegri more than juventus

 

[Badass J Elkann]

I liked Patrizi. He was a nice guy.

It's a shame he liked Allegri more than you

 

[Fab Fragment]

Bro, If you have been following Juve for 30 years, then you must remember how Anceloti lost the title while leading the whole time and losing 4 of the last 6-7 remaining games in the campain... I will never ever forgive him that!

That was terrible. And it still hurts.

 

[JuveJay]

Allegro is a JJ legend, nothing can change that and he actually left on decent terms in the end. Winning a trophy and taking a minimal severence package.

But I don't remember another high profile coach fall off so quickly. Went from one of the top coaches in Europe to a Del Neri regen. Even Mourinho's decline was gradual.

I'm sure he'll stick by his 'philosophy' in his next job too but he shouldn't be anywhere near a big club again.

I think it was exacerbated by his determination to do things his own way in the face of all cricitism, like his personal mission was to commit to his ideologies to the greatest extent, absolute stubborn shithousery. And then he realised that he probably wasn't going to be retained and Giuntoli wanted his own guy, we won the Coppa, and there was that crazy release of emotions where he lost the plot as he probably felt like he had "won" the moment.

I don't believe in another scenario he'd be quite so destructive or stubborn, wouldn't even surprise me to see him have a bit of success elsewhere, but you can see that his ideas are far removed from what we would consider modern football.

 

[Lion]

Let’s be real. If not for some really good players saving him he would be where he was right now too.

He is a coach who had good players carry him