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In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,336
guy's whole career is suspicious. getting so called Panchina d'Oro for finishing the league in ninth place with cagliari, picked by milan for no apparent reason. horribly failed in 2012 with most established squad in the league. sunk milan to mariana trench, they still cant get up. awarded for his failure there, hired by juventus who were in a golden age and on road to become a monopoly in italy. due to his terrible squad building, juventus sunk as well. sits on his ass for 2 years because no one wants this sorry bum anywhere close to their club. called back for finishing the job he started.

wherever he goes crumbles but the invisible hand is keeping him a float. %100 sure he is a member of ''the society''.
There is a lot to digest here.
 

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Jun 16, 2020
12,435
That's not even remotely close to being true. We had our chances in 99% of the games.
Vlahovic has been shit but our games were equally shit, all perfectly in line id say.

I agree with his post though, any striker would suffer enormously at our team last year. Doesn’t matter if we have prime R9 or Vlahovic.

Its no coincidence that we hired Magnanelli to specifically coordinate our attacks.
 

Robee

Senior Member
Jun 21, 2011
7,014
Vlahovic has been shit but our games were equally shit, all perfectly in line id say.

I agree with his post though, any striker would suffer enormously at our team last year. Doesn’t matter if we have prime R9 or Vlahovic.

Its no coincidence that we hired Magnanelli to specifically coordinate our attacks.
Our games were definitely shit. But saying we didn't have our chances ain't true at all. Even if they were created through luck, opposition mistakes or whatever instead of patterns, quality passing,....
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,616
But isn’t that the point?

For young strikers they need some predictability and repetition in the scoring positions to practice these situations in training and on the pitch > hone their skills and build confidence > improvise on top of that.

This is not too different from how defenders practice defensive positions and organization in various scenarios they don’t just improvise there’s a foundation of principles and tactics that they fall back on with some room for improvisation to adapt in real-time to the specifics of the situation.

All strikers need that structure and especially young ones who are early in their development. He’s not Ibrahimovic he needs to develop his craft which is extremely difficult when there’s no coaching
 

Robee

Senior Member
Jun 21, 2011
7,014
But isn’t that the point?

For young strikers they need some predictability and repetition in the scoring positions to practice these situations in training and on the pitch > hone their skills and build confidence > improvise on top of that.

This is not too different from how defenders practice defensive positions and organization in various scenarios they don’t just improvise there’s a foundation of principles and tactics that they fall back on with some room for improvisation to adapt in real-time to the specifics of the situation.

All strikers need that structure and especially young ones who are early in their development. He’s not Ibrahimovic he needs to develop his craft which is extremely difficult when there’s no coaching
That can all be debated but things were said like "Haaland wouldn't look much better". Of course he would be. He'd bury many more of those chances and create extra too.
 

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,326
Vlahovic has been shit but our games were equally shit, all perfectly in line id say.

I agree with his post though, any striker would suffer enormously at our team last year. Doesn’t matter if we have prime R9 or Vlahovic.

Its no coincidence that we hired Magnanelli to specifically coordinate our attacks.
I would exclude prime R9 but I definitely agree.
 

Scottish

Zebrastreifenpferd
Mar 13, 2011
10,262
That can all be debated but things were said like "Haaland wouldn't look much better". Of course he would be. He'd bury many more of those chances and create extra too.
I agree with this, but it's clear that in the right setup Vlahovic is one of the most deadly strikers in football.

Baffling that we'd not try to create that around him. It's like we don't want to win
 

Espectro

The Grimreaper
Jul 12, 2002
14,565
Somethings to remember...

When we brougth back Allegri, one of the things he asked to comeback was to have more control on the mercato and the players that we bougth...That means that since he is here, all the players we bourgth have been either approve for him or directly ask to be brougth for him

Since Alllegri cameback we brought:

Leandro Paredes - Gone after a year
Di Maria - Gone after a year
Paul Pogba - Doest exist
Zakaria - Gone after six months and now gone again
Kostic - Seems to be on sale according to latest news
Vlahovic - On sale
Milik - On sale?
Gatti
Bremer
Locatelli
Kean

Thats 11 players in 2 years, from that list 7 players are either gone or going to be sold these year, after only 2 years in the team and some even less... only 4 or 5 players seem to have a secure place in the team this year and and from those, only 3 players have real impact in the team..

Why did he ask for Vlahovic if he wasnt the player that he needed?
Why did we bougth Kostic and seem to be willing to let him go after a year?
Why did he accept to bring Zakaria and let him go after 6 months??
Why did we bough Pogba... period...

Seen this, why on earth are we acceting things like "If you bring me Lukaku I will win the scudetto" from Allegri?

Look... I can understand that financially firing Allegri was a problem (arguably) but decide to keep him AND still giving hm green ligth in the transfers its stupid, even more if the theory that we are keeping him only for one more year to bring someone else next year...
 
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Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,616
That can all be debated but things were said like "Haaland wouldn't look much better". Of course he would be. He'd bury many more of those chances and create extra too.
Oh yeah that’s hyperbole for sure. Haaland is likely an all time great talent not your usual good striker. His output would be heavily impacted but he’d still bang a decent number of goals.

Ronaldo adapted to Allegriball but his output was reduced ofc
 

mondo1

Senior Member
May 14, 2006
11,446
Somethings to remember...

When we brougth back Allegri, one of the things he asked to comeback was to have more control on the mercato and the players that we bougth...That means that since he is here, all the players we bourgth have been either approve for him or directly ask to be brougth for him

Since Alllegri cameback we brought:

Leandro Paredes - Gone after a year
Di Maria - Gone after a year
Paul Pogba - Doest exist
Zakaria - Gone after six months and now gone again
Kostic - Seems to be on sale according to latest news
Vlahovic - On sale
Milik - On sale?
Gatti
Bremer
Locatelli
Kean

Thats 11 players in 2 years, from that list 7 players are either gone or going to be sold these year, after only 2 years in the team and some even less... only 4 or 5 players seem to have a secure place in the team this year and and from those, only 3 players have real impact in the team..

Why did he ask for Vlahovic if he wasnt the player that he needed?
Why did we bougth Kostic and seem to be willing to let him go after a year?
Why did he accept to bring Zakaria and let him go after 6 months??
Why did we bough Pogba... period...

Seen this, why on earth are we acceting things like "If you bring me Lukaku I will win the scudetto" from Allegri?

Look... I can understand that financially firing Allegri was a problem (arguably) but decide to keep him AND still giving hm green ligth in the transfers its stupid, even more if the theory that we are keeping him only for one more year to bring someone else next year...
I can give you the reason; this retarded management does believe in Allegeri. It was never about his wages. It was always more expensive to keep him instead of fireing him.
They just trust him to be the best option


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singus

Senior Member
Sep 22, 2020
2,073
guy's whole career is suspicious. getting so called Panchina d'Oro for finishing the league in ninth place with cagliari, picked by milan for no apparent reason. horribly failed in 2012 with most established squad in the league. sunk milan to mariana trench, they still cant get up. awarded for his failure there, hired by juventus who were in a golden age and on road to become a monopoly in italy. due to his terrible squad building, juventus sunk as well. sits on his ass for 2 years because no one wants this sorry bum anywhere close to their club. called back for finishing the job he started.

wherever he goes crumbles but the invisible hand is keeping him a float. %100 sure he is a member of ''the society''.
This is accurate.
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,616
I will say it again, without Conte Jihadist would still have 1 scudetto with Milan.
Who would have won it instead of us? We had one serious challenger in that era (Sarri’s Napoli).

Conte’s first scudetto was the surprise and from that point onwards we were by far the favorites every year and could buy the Higuains and Pjanics off of anyone who came close
 

Brny44

Senior Member
Aug 24, 2020
2,023
Its not hard to ride a winning horse. We see him now how he does with mentally destroyed team. The one he destroyed. Those were years in serie a yes, when inter had nagatomo, kuzmanovic, pereyra, Milan had birsa, bonera...

Conte had great season with Siena, just to remind you. I'm not his fan, just tellong what would jihad had without conte legacy here.
 

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