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Dino_mk

Senior Member
Sep 5, 2007
2,048
No. That's the difference between having quality players playing alongside you. It's fine when every other player is capable of playing football. But if you have a team full of Rodri's, you're not playing football. No matter the coach. It's pretty simple.
When players arrive in Jj they are capable of playing football. Someone in this club is suffocating their desire and quality. So there is matter if you have fraud as a coach, that simple.
 
Jun 27, 2011
974
So the championship-leading, UCL quarter finalist team of Rrahmani, Mario Rui, Lobotka and Ndombele are 'quality players' in respect to Chiesa, Di Maria, Vlahovic, Locatelli and Kostic?

This "quality of players" excuse is well past its expiry date. I'm surprised some people here are still deploying the same nonsense to take slack off Allegri.
Only one player you mentioned is able to play football like Napoli plays. I regret to inform you, but yes. Our "quality" players all have different qualities than playing the ball. You ain't putting Chiesa on that Napoli team and expect them to play the same.

Lobotka, Zielinski and Elmas are all better on the ball than any of our midfielders. That doesn't mean we don't have quality. Just a different one from playing the ball and passing between us.

It really isn't complicated to see that even Guardiola couldn't make this team pass the ball around.
 

LiquidPLP

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2012
12,237
Only one player you mentioned is able to play football like Napoli plays. I regret to inform you, but yes. Our "quality" players all have different qualities than playing the ball. You ain't putting Chiesa on that Napoli team and expect them to play the same.

Lobotka, Zielinski and Elmas are all better on the ball than any of our midfielders. That doesn't mean we don't have quality. Just a different one from playing the ball and passing between us.

It really isn't complicated to see that even Guardiola couldn't make this team pass the ball around.
I guarantee you that if any of the three come here, they'll turn into shit in no time. Half a season max.

Praising of Lobotka, Zielinski and Elmas :lol: they're so good that nobody is after them, literally. Let's stop thinking that the grass is greener on the other side, shall we?
In Serie A no squad is significantly better than ours. Sure, the quality that we used to have is no longer there that's why the domination was interrupted by someone else. However it doesn't explain why this squad gets dominated by minnows week in, week out. Next we're gonna hear is that Sassuolo and Fiorentina have better midfielders than ours, ffs.

For me the principle is simple: you're not good enough at things that you don't practice. That's why we're 'hard to break' defensively but except for that we have nothing.
 

Clamarc

Senior Member
Sep 26, 2018
1,982
Only one player you mentioned is able to play football like Napoli plays. I regret to inform you, but yes. Our "quality" players all have different qualities than playing the ball. You ain't putting Chiesa on that Napoli team and expect them to play the same.

Lobotka, Zielinski and Elmas are all better on the ball than any of our midfielders. That doesn't mean we don't have quality. Just a different one from playing the ball and passing between us.

It really isn't complicated to see that even Guardiola couldn't make this team pass the ball around.
:lol:
 
Jun 27, 2011
974
Buying what excuse? First you wanted Allegri out, then you wanted Sarri out, then you wanted Pirlo out, now you want Allegri out :ok:

You think someone can take over and teach our current players tiki-taka. You've been spending too much time playing FIFA :andyandbarcelona:

As I said, and I stand by what I said. Our team is really technically average. Clear for all to see. Anyone who knows what they're watching can see that. You can't expect our team to play offensive, ball retaining football when only one or two players in the team is capable of holding onto the ball. Well you can, but you'd be dumb thinking about it. We'd get countered on more often than your mom gets laid by strangers. Nobody wants that
 

singus

Senior Member
Sep 22, 2020
2,073
No-one can take over the shit teams Allegri is producing. Some throaters use it as an excuse for Allegri that the teams he coach sooner rather than later become evaluated as SHIT and in need of overhauls every summer. But its the product of having him "coach" and work with our scouts and sports directors. Thats why we need the fraud streeted so badly. Everything from squad building down to fitness, injuries, tactics, technical ability SUCKS.
 

CrimsonianKing

Count Mbangula
Jan 16, 2013
27,326
Buying what excuse? First you wanted Allegri out, then you wanted Sarri out, then you wanted Pirlo out, now you want Allegri out :ok:

You think someone can take over and teach our current players tiki-taka. You've been spending too much time playing FIFA :andyandbarcelona:

As I said, and I stand by what I said. Our team is really technically average. Clear for all to see. Anyone who knows what they're watching can see that. You can't expect our team to play offensive, ball retaining football when only one or two players in the team is capable of holding onto the ball. Well you can, but you'd be dumb thinking about it. We'd get countered on more often than your mom gets laid by strangers. Nobody wants that
What a load of crap. The way you talk it’s like he was unjustly let go when in fact his jihad tactical approach was as clear as day on his last season to anyone who had eyes. He was fired for good reason and it should’ve stayed that way.

Only one or two players capable of holding onto the ball? So you’re suggesting the rest of Serie A with lesser quality/smaller budget built teams can do that but we can’t? Cut the crap.
 

Salvo

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Dec 17, 2007
62,842
Buying what excuse? First you wanted Allegri out, then you wanted Sarri out, then you wanted Pirlo out, now you want Allegri out :ok:

You think someone can take over and teach our current players tiki-taka. You've been spending too much time playing FIFA :andyandbarcelona:

As I said, and I stand by what I said. Our team is really technically average. Clear for all to see. Anyone who knows what they're watching can see that. You can't expect our team to play offensive, ball retaining football when only one or two players in the team is capable of holding onto the ball. Well you can, but you'd be dumb thinking about it. We'd get countered on more often than your mom gets laid by strangers. Nobody wants that
Two wrongs don't make a right.

Sarri was let go prematurely because the old heads didn't want him, give Sarri this team and he would be better to suited to it now as opposed to then.

Pirlo was nonsensical, firstly to hire him and then secondly to let him go after a season. If Pirlo was ever going to work it would have to have been tested over more than one year.
 
Jun 27, 2011
974
What a load of crap. The way you talk it’s like he was unjustly let go when in fact his jihad tactical approach was as clear as day on his last season to anyone who had eyes. He was fired for good reason and it should’ve stayed that way.

Only one or two players capable of holding onto the ball? So you’re suggesting the rest of Serie A with lesser quality/smaller budget built teams can do that but we can’t? Cut the crap.
It depends on the characteristics of the players. I didn't think I would have to explain such a basic thing. There are a lot smaller teams with lesser quality than ours that are better suited to hold onto the ball than we are. That doesn't mean they're better than us. Technically, mind you, we're second. But yes, there are worse players, in lesser teams, that are better than our midfielders in passing the ball.

Would we be better off with these players? No. Would we be better suited to pass the ball around? Yes.

Elmas, Zielinski and Labotka are all better than Locatelli or Rabiot at passing the ball. All of them are better technically. However, we're built to sit back with players like Rabiot and Locatelli. That's their strenght. You don't put Locatelli and Rabiot in Napoli's team and expect them to play the ball around like Zielinski or Elmas do.
 
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Clamarc

Senior Member
Sep 26, 2018
1,982
It depends on the characteristics of the players. I didn't think I would have to explain such a basic thing. There are a lot smaller teams with lesser quality than ours that are better suited to hold onto the ball than we are. That doesn't mean they're better than us. Technically, mind you, we're second. But yes, there are worse players, in lesser teams, that are better than our midfielders in passing the ball.

Would we be better off with these players? No. Would we be better suited to pass the ball around? Yes.

Elmas, Zielinski and Labotka are all better than Locatelli or Rabiot at passing the ball. All of them are better technically. However, we're built to sit back with players like Rabiot and Locatelli. That's their strenght. You don't put Locatelli and Rabiot in Napoli's team and expect them to play the ball around like Zielinski or Elmas do.
:lol:
Locatelli was fine passer at Sassuolo.
Rabiot had no problem playing in possession based team like PSG.
Players play according to coach instructions not the other way around.

Dude did you really watch the match or busy checking Allegri's dick? :lol:
 

cimenk

Senior Member
Jul 23, 2008
3,135
It depends on the characteristics of the players. I didn't think I would have to explain such a basic thing. There are a lot smaller teams with lesser quality than ours that are better suited to hold onto the ball than we are. That doesn't mean they're better than us. Technically, mind you, we're second. But yes, there are worse players, in lesser teams, that are better than our midfielders in passing the ball.

Would we be better off with these players? No. Would we be better suited to pass the ball around? Yes.

Elmas, Zielinski and Labotka are all better than Locatelli or Rabiot at passing the ball. All of them are better technically. However, we're built to sit back with players like Rabiot and Locatelli. That's their strenght. You don't put Locatelli and Rabiot in Napoli's team and expect them to play the ball around like Zielinski or Elmas do.
Lobotka is better in passing?
Last time Locatelli in Sassuolo, he was one of the midfield player with the most progressive passes to final third.
 

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