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Stevie

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Mar 30, 2003
20,796
Kinks that will get worked out IMO. Growing pains with a lot of new players. Impossible to plan around getting your key players back once every 2 games or in a few months .

agree subs are shocking but I still think the seas will calm a bit soon enough. Not saying we will play PSG level but results will be grinding out again
Kinks is seriously understating it. As salvo just said it's been years and nothing has improved. Allegri's last 2 seasons before being fired, last season and now the beginning of this season. Only a fool would still have hope at this point.
 

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Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
Kinks is seriously understating it. As salvo just said it's been years and nothing has improved. Allegri's last 2 seasons before being fired, last season and now the beginning of this season. Only a fool would still have hope at this point.
I guess I’m a fool then. Until we are rumored to someone better that isn’t Italian I’ll be a fool :tup:
 
Jun 27, 2011
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We've all heard Allegri describe the role of a coach, to do as little damage as possible, so he's doing nothing it seems.

That might work when you inherit a team full of champions from Conte, willing to die for the shirt, full of quality. But just buying players who have won things and hoping that's enough to win will result in disastrous displays where nobody knows what the fuck he's doing on the pitch. Quality will get us through teams like Spezia.

I don't fully understand Allegri. But he has shown that he's capable of putting on display. I just think he chooses his matches. The season is long, and what matters is putting points on the table for now. We played really well against Sassuolo, Terribly against Spezia, well against Roma, terrible against Fiorentina. Everyone is angry after our latest display, but we could all be over the moon after tomorrow night.

We're two points from 1st. With 9 points on the horizon. Let's calm our tits a bit.

If we're 1st during the winter break. We're fine
 

duranfj

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Jul 30, 2015
8,799
Who is calling it trolling?
I can’t find another word to describe (somes are relate to Max, others to the Max blind believers):
- “I don’t care if Vlaho just have 1 touch per game”
- Leaving with Mou with a smile after a home draw
- Leaving Vlaho in the bench against Fiore and not gave him a single minute (1goal per game player)
- Asking for players, putting them and then used it as excuse for the results
- Glad with the fifth positive result when in fact it means, 6th place
- Roma and Milan had spent more
- Our players run a lot, see the stats.

It has to be trolling
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
125,382
I can’t find another word to describe (somes are relate to Max, others to the Max blind believers):
- “I don’t care if Vlaho just have 1 touch per game”
- Leaving with Mou with a smile after a home draw
- Leaving Vlaho in the bench against Fiore and not gave him a single minute (1goal per game player)
- Asking for players, putting them and then used it as excuse for the results
- Glad with the fifth positive result when in fact it means, 6th place
- Roma and Milan had spent more
- Our players run a lot, see the stats.

It has to be trolling
That wasn't my question though.
 

zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
51,816
If you've watched Juve since 2001 then you should know that Allegri isn't half the manager Lippi was.

Lippi is one of the best managers of all time in world football not just for Juve.
So 2nd group stage exit (Leverkusen, Deportivo, Arsenal), final loss (Milan), Ro.16 exit (Deportivo) is better to you than final (GOAT Barca), Ro.16 (Bayern), final (GOAT Madrid), QF (Madrid again)? Just be be clear
 

Clamarc

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Sep 26, 2018
1,982
So 2nd group stage exit (Leverkusen, Deportivo, Arsenal), final loss (Milan), Ro.16 exit (Deportivo) is better to you than final (GOAT Barca), Ro.16 (Bayern), final (GOAT Madrid), QF (Madrid again)? Just be be clear
Imagine just to defend this fraud, his fans also making another manager, in fact the best Juve manager looks worse. Lippi reached 4 finals and he actually won it though just one.
Lippi coaching career didn't start from 2001 and Allegri coaching career didn't end in 2019.
The first year of their 2nd stint both were poor. Allegri needs to reach final this year if you want to make a claim that he's better than Lippi
 
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zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
51,816
Imagine just to defend this fraud, his fans also making another manager, in fact the best Juve manager looks worse. Lippi reached 4 finals and he actually won it though just one.
Lippi coaching career didn't start from 2001 and Allegri coaching career didn't end in 2019.
The first year of their 2nd stint both were poor. Allegri needs to reach final this year if you want to make a claim that he's better than Lippi
Reply to what was said, everyone knows Lippi
 

Clamarc

Senior Member
Sep 26, 2018
1,982
Reply to what was said, everyone knows Lippi
I already replied with the comparison from the 2nd stint cause that seems fairer. Your comparison is a bit unfair because you compare them from different stint.
Lippi first stint was 3 consecutive finals with 1 trophy and another semifinal. That should be clear enough who win in the 1st stint comparison.

So Allegri needs to reach final this year to reach Lippi 2nd stint level.
Good luck :lol3:
 

zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
51,816
I already replied with the comparison from the 2nd stint cause that seems fairer. Your comparison is a bit unfair because you compare them from different stint.
Lippi first stint was 3 consecutive finals with 1 trophy and another semifinal. That should be clear enough who win in the 1st stint comparison.

So Allegri needs to reach final this year to reach Lippi 2nd stint level.
Good luck :lol3:
That's not my comparison, I only replied to a conversation which said Allegri is our best performer since that toaster started watching Juve in 2001. Which is factually true. If you simply click on Stevie's post you will see it
 

Siamak

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Aug 13, 2013
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#Allegri (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Allegri?src=hashtag_click) : “Pogba (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Pogba?src=hashtag_click) is at the box after he made a conservative choice earlier. We will get him back in January, we have to be realistic ”.

(read again: He (Pogba) made the conservative choice)
#Allegri (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Allegri?src=hashtag_click) : “ #Pogba (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Pogba?src=hashtag_click) this morning stopped and decided to have surgery. I have to calculate that we will get him back in January. Whether he plays the World Cup or not is not my problem ”.
Allegri: Bonucci, Vlahovic, Rabiot & Perin are the only certain to play tomorrow. I need to decide the other starters
 

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