Massimiliano Allegri (223 Viewers)

[Stevie]

is there even a point in watching juve matches while he is still coach? i think watching highlights is way better use of time. i'd rather play videogames and entertain myself, not torture myself watch him play mls level football

I agree.

Was somewhat hopeful things would be different this year if we bought the right players but it was evident from the Sampdoria game that Allegri is probably a bigger problem than the players we have at our disposable.

 

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[Niku]

try auto generated subs

I fucking loved this.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

is there even a point in watching juve matches while he is still coach? i think watching highlights is way better use of time. i'd rather play videogames and entertain myself, not torture myself watch him play mls level football

So u gonna be missing games eh?

 

[ladstone]

The best criticism of Allegri is the midfield selection.

You should think last year was enough to know Locatelli must be unlocked and not play the Regista. McKennie and Rabiot alongside a very out of position Locatelli? Absolute shambles. The images of the field where are players are in a circle with no midfield for the defense to pass to is a pure example of the tactical braindead McKennie and Rabiot with Locatelli unable to determine where he should be in that moment.

Locatelli - Rovella - Miretti should be the midfield against Roma. Zakaria come on later for Locatelli or Miretti maybe but if he insists on this style of play we must get an ACTUAL regista. Parades for example, and yes Allegri has been asking for him probably for this very reason. But this doesn't excuse continuing to play Locatelli there. He cannot play Regista.

And McKennie... my god, he is so useless why is he continually given chances? No first touch, no passing, no vision, no positioning.

Unfortunately, I don't think Allgeri has any clue about what is he doing and what he want to do.

 

[DanielSz]

I’m not sure how that makes Allegri look any better. There’s still a gigantic hole in the midfield.

here’s Madrid doing the same thing

 

[B3N]

The best criticism of Allegri is the midfield selection.

You should think last year was enough to know Locatelli must be unlocked and not play the Regista. McKennie and Rabiot alongside a very out of position Locatelli? Absolute shambles. The images of the field where are players are in a circle with no midfield for the defense to pass to is a pure example of the tactical braindead McKennie and Rabiot with Locatelli unable to determine where he should be in that moment.

Locatelli - Rovella - Miretti should be the midfield against Roma. Zakaria come on later for Locatelli or Miretti maybe but if he insists on this style of play we must get an ACTUAL regista. Parades for example, and yes Allegri has been asking for him probably for this very reason. But this doesn't excuse continuing to play Locatelli there. He cannot play Regista.

And McKennie... my god, he is so useless why is he continually given chances? No first touch, no passing, no vision, no positioning.

Refresh your memory number of touches the dacdical genius lucky sami used to have in our midfield or forward pass attempts by pjanic. What position did loca play for sass? We push for 10/15 minutes a match and that so happened to be when the youngsters were subbed in. Let's see how they fair in stretches when we're constantly pinned back and pressed down our neck. It's an illusion thinking starting them will all of a sudden have us get hold of matches forming triangles all over the place when we're not setup that way anyway. I hope they have as much impact as you'd like to believe and regardless I'm in favor of starting them but the way I see it instructions has more to do with our dysfunctional midfield than the personnel.

 

[spurdo]

Might really have to start missing games likes last season. The problem isn't really losing or drawing games, it's the absolutely dreadful boringness and numbness of Allegriball due to the fact that there is absolutely zero urgency and hunger to win visible on the pitch. I find myself doing completely other things while the match just rolls in the background. At least when Sarri and Pirlo were around I actually watched all games with interest and they had some kind of tactical idea even if they didn't totally land. The way Allegri currently plays ball is the most boring and horrible destruction of football I have ever seen.

 

[kappa96]

Nah he is defenitely out for Roma game. They are reporting only Woj back, and possibly Bonucci if tests go well.


They will most likely just re-check treatment possibilities and severity for Di Maria, but he is for sure gonna be out for 20-25 days IMO. Gazzetta and all other prediction reports for team availability are giving that same estimate.

Yeah Allegri already confirmed on Sunday press conference that it's 10 more days for di Maria, which means middle of the week after the Roma game.
He is out with Roma.
Octogon tactics it is.

 

[Valerio.]

I fucking loved this.

first seconds he is calm then "with all the love for the football game.... WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU WAITING TO RID OF THAT SHITTY LATRINE"

ahahah

 

[kappa96]

Can someone translate please.

 

[Mokku]

Octagon tactics are a 4-3-3 thing to spread the opposition out and make space in the centre. A midfielder will collect in the centre and should use some *skill or *vision to pick out a attacking pass or *drive forwards. From the Sampdoria game its clear that the midfield don't impose themselves so we just pass around the back made worse because Bonucci wasn't there.

This is why I've been against 4-3-3, we don't have players good enough for it. You need 3 good players in midfield that can run and let's not start on the lack of wingers. Also, Bonucci is an excellent passer and something we really missed.

I've watched Paredes and he's good for the system, he'd work with Locatelli and Pogba but that's dependent on injuries. Then you need Di Maria to be fit always but when injured you have Kostic and Milik? I'm perplexed how Allegri doesn't see this. With our current squad, we'll spend more time as a 3-5-2 or flat 4-4-2 than a functional 4-3-3. I think Milik will be a support striker to Vlahovic.

*qualities that we do not have

 

[Valerio.]

Can someone translate please.

it's a meme joke:

"So guys today we'll learn the system "corto muso" hexagonal rear-wheel drive"


corto muso = (it's a italian term used in horse races) which means that to win a horse race you only need the a short muzzle to win it and not the whole horse

so to explain it's a combination of 3 memes.

Allegris very well known quote "Corto Muso"

Hexagonal cause from that famous screen with the empty midfield they called it a hexagonal tactic


and rear-wheel drive to say that we played a lot in the defence with hundred of passes done from one defender to another

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also there is a 4th hidden meme.
They placed Allegri face on Oronzo Canà explaining the 5-5-5 tactic in a famous italian comedy film "L'allenatore nel pallone" 1984

 

[Salvo]

More than where we move the ball it's how little our players move and how slowly the ball moves.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

More than where we move the ball it's how little our players move and how slowly the ball moves.

Thank you. Lion said we’re watching our own version of Tiki Taka but I have to disagree.

In tiki taka its 3 seconds then pass to the next guy and so on. Our rule seems to be hold on to the ball
- CALMA for 5 seconds - then instantly pass back or sideways. There’s no such thing as thinking ahead which means we rarely connect quick passes and/or pass forward unless it’s those long ass balls coming from the defense that almost always turn out to be another wasted opportunity.

 

[lgorTudor]

here’s Madrid doing the same thing

wrong
They have their best player right in the center circle

 

[PedroFlu]

Might really have to start missing games likes last season. The problem isn't really losing or drawing games, it's the absolutely dreadful boringness and numbness of Allegriball due to the fact that there is absolutely zero urgency and hunger to win visible on the pitch. I find myself doing completely other things while the match just rolls in the background. At least when Sarri and Pirlo were around I actually watched all games with interest and they had some kind of tactical idea even if they didn't totally land. The way Allegri currently plays ball is the most boring and horrible destruction of football I have ever seen.

Me too. Its been years since I cant watch a game without doing anything else.

 

[Tak!]

Kind of says something if Pirlo early on suggests that we don't have CMs that can play in a 433, so he goes with a 442 despite wingerless squad and because the CMs are so bad they might as well be deployed as "wingers".

 

[IliveForJuve]

here’s Madrid doing the same thing

Yeah but Madrid players actually move to show themselves and receive the ball. Also, they're playing against PSG(?), not frickin Sampdoria.

 

[duranfj]

here’s Madrid doing the same thing

Yep, Valverde or Modric cutting into the middle and a diagonal to launch a pass to Vini is like Mckennie cutting in to pass to Rabiot… same, plus PSG, plus UCL, yep, same Max did against Poor Sampdoria Guys

 

[LiquidPLP]

is there even a point in watching juve matches while he is still coach? i think watching highlights is way better use of time. i'd rather play videogames and entertain myself, not torture myself watch him play mls level football

Your point is totally valid because it's exactly what I think, you came up with it just a year later tho.
I never really wanted Allegri back because I expected nothing better than what we've seen since his comeback. If anything, there was a reason why he was sacked in the first place. His cycle was over back then and things like that need to be accepted, one just needs to move on at some point.

The club is stuck in the past and it shows a lot. Starts from the management, goes through market moves and the coach down to the actual game plan. Then we wonder why EPL is further ahead, even Juve fans start to turn on the club and stop watching the games