Massimiliano Allegri (280 Viewers)

[juve_juve_juve]

One other thing Allegri fans also don't get is that nobody would complain if Juventus is giving up possessions and trashing Barcelona 5-0 like Bayern did...

Allegri never did something like that either... What we get is serie b level cattenaccio football.

 

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[.zero]

Perhaps the answer is simpler than anyone here can imagine.

Allegritics and anti-maxxers should unite into a single unibrow to find that answer

 

[Post Ironic]

Why is RUS calling our attacking wingers like Chiesa midfielders?

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And talking about Vlahovic’s total goals at Viola vs here. No shit he scored more there. He played an extra dozen matches. By his per minute stats he’d have 13 goals vs 16 goals in the same minutes played. Hardly some earth shattering difference lol

 

[zizinho]

Why is RUS calling our attacking wingers like Chiesa midfielders?

He's trying to prove something. What is that only he knows

 

[Post Ironic]

He's trying to prove something. What is that only he knows

While calling everyone who doesn’t agree with him arrogant deluded fools and dummies. That clever boy.

 

[Robee]

One other thing Allegri fans also don't get is that nobody would complain if Juventus is giving up possessions and trashing Barcelona 5-0 like Bayern did...

Allegri never did something like that either... What we get is serie b level cattenaccio football.

Indeed, the loser could only win 3-0 at the Camp Nou.

 

[s4tch]

Indeed, the loser could only win 3-0 at the Camp Nou.

iirc that was pirlo, with allegri we beat barca 3-0 at home

 

[Robee]

iirc that was pirlo, with allegri we beat barca 3-0 at home

Right, it was at home. With the Dybala doppietta. And a 0-0 over there if I remember correctly.

 

[Karim30]

Every team in the world would miss a player like Chiesa. Especially ours, a team trying to find our ways. Real Madrid wouldn't be the same team without Benzema. Liverpool wouldn't be the same team without Salah, City wouldn't be the same team without Kevin, and we're not the same team without Chiesa.

Ronaldo left basically couple of days before the season began. Whatever Allegri was working on (probably a devastating counter attacks with Chiesa), had to be reset. 14 days into the season Chiesa tears his knee. Our attack we had in mind for the season vaporised into thin air. Which means another reset for Allegri. Now 14 days into the season. Now the season begins to be about finding a new balance. Which wasn't easy as we were leaking goals left, right and centre.

Now we've managed a balance. We're solid. But we lack any sense of how to attack yet. That's gonna take longer to figure out. And i'm sure Chiesa is gonna be heavily included. I have a feeling that Chiesa is about to become our number 10. And he's about to be exploited by Allegri. Chiesa was the absolute best player of the Euros Italy won. The world fell in love with Chiesa during that tournament. He's on another level on his day.

Next season is gonna be 4-4-1-1. We're gonna invite teams to come at us. Vlahovic is gonna use his physicality and Chiesa will exploit the spaces that it creates. Just that alone can result in 1.5 goals per game. But in games where a team locks up against us, that's what i'm interested to see, and am gonna judge Allegri on after next season. Not now, after this freak of a season. It was damage control from the beginning of the season.

It was interesting to hear Allegri talk about needing 3 new players. I have vague idea of what those positions are. If these positions get replaced by quality. We're talking, and good luck beating us.

We need a quality left back, and a quality midfielder who's capable of passing a football, (i was really hoping for Guimaraes)

I hope Allegri meant that we need 3 starters (LB, b2b, winger) because we need at least 6-7 new players given that Dybala, Berna, Morata, Chiellini and Sandro are/could be leaving.

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Why is RUS calling our attacking wingers like Chiesa midfielders?

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And talking about Vlahovic’s total goals at Viola vs here. No shit he scored more there. He played an extra dozen matches. By his per minute stats he’d have 13 goals vs 16 goals in the same minutes played. Hardly some earth shattering difference lol

Look at non penalty goals and you’ll find that his minutes per goal are better here.

 

[Robee]

I hope Allegri meant that we need 3 starters (LB, b2b, winger) because we need at least 6-7 new players given that Dybala, Berna, Morata, Chiellini and Sandro are/could be leaving.
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Depends on the sales, I guess. But 3 starters sounds more realistic indeed. Although I'd say CB instead of LB possibly.

 

[Karim30]

Depends on the sales, I guess. But 3 starters sounds more realistic indeed. Although I'd say CB instead of LB possibly.

3 starters+3 depth options including players returning from loans is ok, but only 3 new purchases overall can’t be right.

 

[Post Ironic]

I hope Allegri meant that we need 3 starters (LB, b2b, winger) because we need at least 6-7 new players given that Dybala, Berna, Morata, Chiellini and Sandro are/could be leaving.

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Look at non penalty goals and you’ll find that his minutes per goal are better here.

You are right. His non-penalty goals/minute under the amazing Italiano this year in Serie A were 1 goal/155 minutes

Under pussy coward dinosaur tactics Allegri it is 1 goal/ 141 minutes.

Very embarrassing for RUS and his endless bitching

 

[X Æ A-12]

You are right. His non-penalty goals/minute under the amazing Italiano this year in Serie A were 1 goal/155 minutes

Under pussy coward dinosaur tactics Allegri it is 1 goal/ 141 minutes.

Very embarrassing for RUS and his endless bitching

probably fewer xgoals per game though

 

[Post Ironic]

probably fewer xgoals per game though

He actually had outscored his xGoals by around 5 before we bought him.

On RUS’ favourite site, FBref, Vlahovic’s Non-penalty xGoals/90 at Viola this year was 0.39/90.

At Juve Vlahovic’s non-penalty xGoals/90 are 0.47/90.

It gets even worse if you add in xAssists. 0.59 NP XG+XA vs 0.49 NP XG + XA. Like 20% improvement here under Max

RUS wrecked. I’m sure he’s gonna post some heat maps now.

 

[Strickland]

Sarri didn't even have a training camp because the chain smoking scum contracted pneumonia. Then midway through the year his players literally stopped listening to him. Won the league with matches to spare with Ramsey, Rabiot, Matuidi, Bentancur and no one even gave a fuck. Immediately sacked. Everyone on here was fine with it.

Now members are slipping on the floor because of all the cum produced celebrating FOURTH with Allegri, behind a Milan team led by Olivier Giroud.

Let's keep the same standards and rubric for evaluation, that's all I ask.

this is gold

 

[JCK]

this is gold

It's a lie though.

 

[Strickland]

It's a lie though.

Almost all of the talking points in this thread are lies, both sides are debating extreme takes. This one at least has some good entertainment value

 

[JCK]

Almost all of the talking points in this thread are lies, both sides are debating extreme takes. This one at least has some good entertainment value

Everything has been repeated at least a hundred times, it is boring and the desperate measures to exaggerate has gone too far. Maybe that one was a bit funny but it remains a fact that not a single Juve fan on this forum has celebrated the fourth place.

 

[il brutto]

Why is RUS calling our attacking wingers like Chiesa midfielders?

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And talking about Vlahovic’s total goals at Viola vs here. No shit he scored more there. He played an extra dozen matches. By his per minute stats he’d have 13 goals vs 16 goals in the same minutes played. Hardly some earth shattering difference lol

 

[Patrizi]

3 starters+3 depth options including players returning from loans is ok, but only 3 new purchases overall can’t be right.

When he said we needed three new players during that interview, nobody thought he meant three benchwarmers. Pretty obviously he meant starters.

It's nice to hear that at least he knows what we're missing.