we would have won the scudetto this season if Ronaldo was still here or if chiesa had managed to stay fit. Sarri please.
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Sarri didn't even have a training camp because the chain smoking scum contracted pneumonia. Then midway through the year his players literally stopped listening to him. Won the league with matches to spare with Ramsey, Rabiot, Matuidi, Bentancur and no one even gave a fuck. Immediately sacked. Everyone on here was fine with it.
Now members are slipping on the floor because of all the cum produced celebrating FOURTH with Allegri, behind a Milan team led by Olivier Giroud.
Let's keep the same standards and rubric for evaluation, that's all I ask.
Now members are slipping on the floor because of all the cum produced celebrating FOURTH with Allegri, behind a Milan team led by Olivier Giroud.
Let's keep the same standards and rubric for evaluation, that's all I ask.
His previous few years mean fuck all, with due respect. Would you sign Vidal back here for next season? Same with a coach. If he shows decline then it's decline, simple as that.
His whole career? It's great. But since he has returned all he's done is picked right back up from where he left us when we sacked him.
His whole career? It's great. But since he has returned all he's done is picked right back up from where he left us when we sacked him.
again you completely ignore the decline of the quality of the squad yet you expect the same results, how?!
also, a coach doesn't forget his job while a player's physical decline is inevitable, with all due respect that's a ridiculous analogy
i have one single (albeit huge) reservation about allegri: if his methods are responsible for all those muscle injuries then he should be replaced asap. otherwise i'd of course let him work for an other year. this club is a mess, this squad is a mess too. can't continue always blaming the coach, it's what post 2010 inda or post 2012 milan did, and it took them a decade or so to recover. just fix the squad first.
also, a coach doesn't forget his job while a player's physical decline is inevitable, with all due respect that's a ridiculous analogy
i have one single (albeit huge) reservation about allegri: if his methods are responsible for all those muscle injuries then he should be replaced asap. otherwise i'd of course let him work for an other year. this club is a mess, this squad is a mess too. can't continue always blaming the coach, it's what post 2010 inda or post 2012 milan did, and it took them a decade or so to recover. just fix the squad first.
Turning into a RUS level imbecile. 
Sarri took over a team that with Allegri finished with 90 pts with, while not even attempting to win the last 5 rounds after clinching scudetto and went to CL quarterfinals after knocking out Atletico, he was given De Ligt, Demiral, Rus’s great Rabiot, still had Pjanic, Khedira, Matuidi, Costa (who the Sarri boys guaranteed would be amazing for him), Higuain and finished with 83 pts, and got knocked out of CL by 7th place Ligue 1 Lyon
And again, no one is celebrating 4th lol
Sarri took over a team that with Allegri finished with 90 pts with, while not even attempting to win the last 5 rounds after clinching scudetto and went to CL quarterfinals after knocking out Atletico, he was given De Ligt, Demiral, Rus’s great Rabiot, still had Pjanic, Khedira, Matuidi, Costa (who the Sarri boys guaranteed would be amazing for him), Higuain and finished with 83 pts, and got knocked out of CL by 7th place Ligue 1 Lyon
And again, no one is celebrating 4th lol
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Turning into a RUS level imbecile.
Sarri took a team Allegri finished with 90 pts with, while not even attempting to win the last 5 rounds, and CL quarterfinals after knocking out Atletico, was given De Ligt, Demiral, Rus’s great Rabiot, still had Pjanic, Khedira, Matuidi, Costa (who the Sarri boys guaranteed would be amazing for him), Higuain and finished with 83 pts, and got knocked out of CL by 7th place Ligue 1 Lyon
And again, no one is celebrating 4th lol
Sarri took a team Allegri finished with 90 pts with, while not even attempting to win the last 5 rounds, and CL quarterfinals after knocking out Atletico, was given De Ligt, Demiral, Rus’s great Rabiot, still had Pjanic, Khedira, Matuidi, Costa (who the Sarri boys guaranteed would be amazing for him), Higuain and finished with 83 pts, and got knocked out of CL by 7th place Ligue 1 Lyon
And again, no one is celebrating 4th lol
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If Allegri has faced same problems your excuses would have skyrocketed
The squad and the coach are intertwined. If an outsider looks at Juventus Vlahovic, he says meh. A goal every 184 minutes? I guess he's an ok striker.
If an outsider looks at Fiorentina Vlahovic, he says wow, 70M player. A goal every 100 minutes. So do we have a top striker or not? Right now the stats say we don't. Just another player in our shit squad.
If an outsider looks at Fiorentina Vlahovic, he says wow, 70M player. A goal every 100 minutes. So do we have a top striker or not? Right now the stats say we don't. Just another player in our shit squad.
Literally everyone saying 4th is the absolute minimum because we need to play CL next year. The coach, upper management, everyone at the club saying goal for the first year of a new 4 year project Post-Ronaldo was CL knockouts, plus a top 4 finish so we play CL next year, and we’ll have new goals for next season after the summer mercato.
But MikeM, RUS, Maxi, etc think this means squad is the finished article, it’s not a transition year, we aren’t rebuilding, and people are celebrating finishing 4th with a CL contender level squad
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Anyways. He’ll be around for next season at least because the club sees this as a rebuild, a new project. So these clowns can cry all they want, but it shall not change a thing. Plenty of amusement to be had from their bitching over the next several months.
But MikeM, RUS, Maxi, etc think this means squad is the finished article, it’s not a transition year, we aren’t rebuilding, and people are celebrating finishing 4th with a CL contender level squad
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Anyways. He’ll be around for next season at least because the club sees this as a rebuild, a new project. So these clowns can cry all they want, but it shall not change a thing. Plenty of amusement to be had from their bitching over the next several months.
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so you're saying that de sciglio, current chiellini, pellegrini, sandro, rugani, arthur, rabiot, 2022 dybala, berna, kean, etc are scudetto worthy players. okay.
i think that de ligt, locatelli, cuadrado, chiesa, vlahovic are at the level i'd expect from starters at juve, snacks is an ideal squad player. not sure about zak yet. i wouldn't shed a tear for the others.
as for vlahovic, he's still a top player. i posted a tweet a few weeks ago that stated that he was actually scoring open play goals more frequently for juve than for fiorentina, penalties being the only difference (and we don't get to shoot them at juve)
i think that de ligt, locatelli, cuadrado, chiesa, vlahovic are at the level i'd expect from starters at juve, snacks is an ideal squad player. not sure about zak yet. i wouldn't shed a tear for the others.
as for vlahovic, he's still a top player. i posted a tweet a few weeks ago that stated that he was actually scoring open play goals more frequently for juve than for fiorentina, penalties being the only difference (and we don't get to shoot them at juve)
That’s my expectation every year as a minimum, nitwit. We failed that. With a healthy Chiesa all year we probably don’t. Where I assign blame for that is in part the squad, in part the coach, but mostly the Paratici era management wrecking this team to its current shit state.
I expect a good summer mercato to get this team back to that level for next year. If Max fails to build from year 1 to year 2 of this project than he can get streeted for all I care. But lol that it should happen after season 1 when he reached the objectives that the club itself set.
I expect a good summer mercato to get this team back to that level for next year. If Max fails to build from year 1 to year 2 of this project than he can get streeted for all I care. But lol that it should happen after season 1 when he reached the objectives that the club itself set.
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