You can't play a high line with Bonucci/Chiellini/Alex Sandro/Rugani. You can't play possession football with our midfield either.
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You can't play a high line with Bonucci/Chiellini/Alex Sandro/Rugani. You can't play possession football with our midfield either.
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Everything we see today, we saw 2010 when he get sacked at milan. Second time 2018 here and third time now, unfortunatley again here. He is used, read,done! He will never win scudetto as juventus coach, never! If you cant get any positive game plan in 8 month, you're probably doing something wrong. Really sad to be stuck with him for next three years...
Wow you are so angry that you have developed Alzheimer’s
On a serious note Allegri is not doing a good job, we’re lacking identity and I think he’s very rusty from a game management perspective. The couple of years he had out of work I’d hoped he’d be honing his craft and developing his tactical style but it does feel like he’s just been resting and recuperating.
Football has changed as have Juventus, he’s not really kept up with that and it’s showing. We need to give him to the end of the season but he should not be immune from being moved on. If he doesn’t make the CL places it would be a disaster and he shouldn’t continue in that scenario
On a serious note Allegri is not doing a good job, we’re lacking identity and I think he’s very rusty from a game management perspective. The couple of years he had out of work I’d hoped he’d be honing his craft and developing his tactical style but it does feel like he’s just been resting and recuperating.
Football has changed as have Juventus, he’s not really kept up with that and it’s showing. We need to give him to the end of the season but he should not be immune from being moved on. If he doesn’t make the CL places it would be a disaster and he shouldn’t continue in that scenario
Attacks can come from anywhere. I watched Locatelli steal the ball from Sampdoria in their own box, and then we scored. When's the last time you saw Locatelli in the opponent's box?
We played all out attack maybe two or three times all season. 4 goals with Roma, 4 with Sampdoria. Everyone can see when we set the pace to attack, the goals come easily.
The absolute number one problem Allegri faces is that he is not adapted to how football is being played. If you don't press, you WILL be pressed back. That was never the case when we were on top of Serie A. Absolutely never the case.
Now teams take the space you give them. They are not scared to push men into our half. They pin us back. When we win the ball we are PRESSED. It was never like this. We used to just walk the ball out and set up with Bonucci and play at a leisurely pace.
Nowadays the aggressor is heavily favoured. You have to win the ball higher in order to set up your attack higher because if you win it lower you DO NOT come out of defence anymore.
We played all out attack maybe two or three times all season. 4 goals with Roma, 4 with Sampdoria. Everyone can see when we set the pace to attack, the goals come easily.
The absolute number one problem Allegri faces is that he is not adapted to how football is being played. If you don't press, you WILL be pressed back. That was never the case when we were on top of Serie A. Absolutely never the case.
Now teams take the space you give them. They are not scared to push men into our half. They pin us back. When we win the ball we are PRESSED. It was never like this. We used to just walk the ball out and set up with Bonucci and play at a leisurely pace.
Nowadays the aggressor is heavily favoured. You have to win the ball higher in order to set up your attack higher because if you win it lower you DO NOT come out of defence anymore.
This is why almost all top teams try to play higher. Because they know you are fucked nowadays if you let the opponent push you back. Your only option then is a pure counter attack.
But what happens if you run into a beast like Bremer and Bremer KNOWS that there is no 1-2 threat for Vlahovic to play? There's no thought that Vlahovic goes in behind because our players under pressure and cannot make that pass?
So Vlahovic cannot even present himself as open because Bremer is over playing him so hard with no risk. It's impossible.
But what happens if you run into a beast like Bremer and Bremer KNOWS that there is no 1-2 threat for Vlahovic to play? There's no thought that Vlahovic goes in behind because our players under pressure and cannot make that pass?
So Vlahovic cannot even present himself as open because Bremer is over playing him so hard with no risk. It's impossible.
You don't buy it and you are wrong. Even in his best days Allegri parked the bus against top opponents and now he parks trains against even mediocre sides.
And people should stop blaming our players for being dominated every game. This is on the manager. We have been pinned back by sides with 1/5 of our budget and capabilities. Absolutely unacceptable.
We just don't train and exercise high press. It is pretty obvious when you watch our players trying to do it. There is so much space between the lines, the attackers are not helped by the midfield, and the defense usually is too far away.
No one wants and expects Juve to become Liverpool or Bayern but there should be some middle ground. Juve are so far away on the defensive side of the spectrum this season, it is pathetic.
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And people should stop blaming our players for being dominated every game. This is on the manager. We have been pinned back by sides with 1/5 of our budget and capabilities. Absolutely unacceptable.
We just don't train and exercise high press. It is pretty obvious when you watch our players trying to do it. There is so much space between the lines, the attackers are not helped by the midfield, and the defense usually is too far away.
No one wants and expects Juve to become Liverpool or Bayern but there should be some middle ground. Juve are so far away on the defensive side of the spectrum this season, it is pathetic.
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True and a big part of the problem. It's really hard to watch at times.
Even when we start defending at halfway it's never fully committed it's just passive "absorbing pressure" (?) until the ball reaches our 18 and then what? When that happens we have to be extra cautious worrying about penalties and cards and FKs.. I've noticed this and pointed it out before.
Need to be way more agressive much higher up. We give way too much time/space for what trade off?
I don't even want to get into the attack since we got new players/injury etc. I will give him time with it but for the life of me I don't get his instructions on this.
Also we don't have the 3 mids for a proper 433, only got 2/3 the players in Zak and Loca.. rabiot is not the guy for it to read the field and react. Maybe Artur but he lacks tenacity and workrate..442 would be better cover..
Even when we start defending at halfway it's never fully committed it's just passive "absorbing pressure" (?) until the ball reaches our 18 and then what? When that happens we have to be extra cautious worrying about penalties and cards and FKs.. I've noticed this and pointed it out before.
Need to be way more agressive much higher up. We give way too much time/space for what trade off?
I don't even want to get into the attack since we got new players/injury etc. I will give him time with it but for the life of me I don't get his instructions on this.
Also we don't have the 3 mids for a proper 433, only got 2/3 the players in Zak and Loca.. rabiot is not the guy for it to read the field and react. Maybe Artur but he lacks tenacity and workrate..442 would be better cover..
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You’re so on point it scary. You know what this phase we’ve been going through in the last few years reminds of?
Remember when the Brazilian NT was a force to be reckoned with and they would absolutely destroy the Perus and Chiles of the world? You’d expect several goals and total domination in every part of the pitch against those “smaller” teams. Then suddenly they weren’t scared to fight back and push forward anymore and while Brazil might still be favorites there’s never a guaranteed win. That’s us now.
Remember when the Brazilian NT was a force to be reckoned with and they would absolutely destroy the Perus and Chiles of the world? You’d expect several goals and total domination in every part of the pitch against those “smaller” teams. Then suddenly they weren’t scared to fight back and push forward anymore and while Brazil might still be favorites there’s never a guaranteed win. That’s us now.