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Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,619
Lol horrible failure. We’d literally have to win every single match to finish with 87 pts. If we go 13-1-1 in our last 15 matches and finish 3rd or 4th with 82 pts, it’s a horrible failure? Talk about dumb :lol:

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It’s entirely irrelevant where we finish between 2nd and 4th. Top 4 and getting through to CL QFs for the first time since Allegri was last here is what matters.
Who said anything about 87 points? We need to out perform Milan , Napoli and Atalanta. If they all reach above 87 points then you'd have a point.

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only expectation in juventus is scudetto. also making the team play most humiliating, pathetic football ever seen is a legitimate reason to not let him stay for second half of the season.
No better options available i am afraid we are stuck with him even if this season continues to be a failure
 

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Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Who said anything about 87 points? We need to out perform Milan , Napoli and Atalanta. If they all reach above 87 points then you'd have a point.
You said if we finish behind any of those teams. It’s very possible more than one of those teams finished in the 80-85 pt range. And very likely we aren’t winning 15 matches straight to finish the season. If you think our squad is that kind of juggernaut you are delusional. The best point total of the Allegri era at 95 points, was 2.5 pts/match. Which would be 38 pts over the last 15 matches. 80 pts to end the season. If we do that, it’s a fantastic finish to the season. Who the fuck cares if we finish 2nd, 3rd, 4th. Top 4 and progressing in CL is all that matters. Ya know, the things that earn us money so we can fix the gaping holes remaining in this squad and get back to winning scudetti.

But continue with your nonsense, dude. Horrible failure if we finish on 80 pts but behind Milan or Napoli lol
 

Mike-e-y

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2004
11,188
With Chiesa out and Kulu sold because he’s been awful for a year now, I don’t know if we have enough wide players to double up on the wings for 4-4-2, 4-2-3-1, or 4-3-3. Depends on Bernie’s form, if Aké is worth giving minutes to, if Mckennie could transition into being useful as a wide midfielder, and if Morty/Kean could play wide and contribute. A lot of ifs.

Would be curious to see 3-5-2 with Mckennie-Zakarias-Locatelli mid and Dybala-Vlahovic front pairing. Cuadrado/Danilo RWB, and MDS/Sandro LWB. 4-3-1-2 is another option with Dybala behind two strikers, but seems defensively quite problematic.

Whether we kept Kulu or not, with Sandro getting more and more washed up by the month, our left side is incredibly weak in the attacking phase with Chiesa out. MdS and Bernie can offer moments, but both are far too inconsistent going forward. It’s a real weakness and problem for this team and there doesn’t seem to be an easy solution.
Yep this is my concern, Vlahovic is a beast and he needs feeding but we have limited wing options and through the middle our players lack creativity.

The 352 or 532 with wingback system seems to be the most suited. Rugani has done well and I wouldn’t at all mind seeing him rotate with Danilo in that 3 with Bonucci and MDL. Cuadrado on the right with Berna/AS/MDS
a CM of Zakaria, McKennie and Locatelli actually sounds ok and Dybala Vlahovic is really strong, they will complement though they are both left footed.

Problem is though we’re not as balanced as we were at the start of the season (not that we were particularly balanced then) and a couple of injuries (if we lose Cuadrado we are in the shit) could really hamper us
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
only expectation in juventus is scudetto. also making the team play most humiliating, pathetic football ever seen is a legitimate reason to not let him stay for second half of the season.
Its disgusting. It's not like these players are serie b level. Even ranieri was able to make series b level players fight hard. And ranieri wasnt even good

This guy is bringing shame to Juventus

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Suns

Release clause?
May 22, 2009
22,086
Szczesny
Danilo - Bonucci - De Ligt
Cuadrado - Zakaria - Locatelli - McKennie - Sandro/MDS
Dybala - Vlahovic

or

Szczesny
Cuadrado - De Ligt - Bonucci - Sandro/MDS
Zakaria - Locatelli - McKennie
Dybala
Morata - Vlahovic​
 

Dominic

Senior Member
Jan 30, 2004
16,706
With all these fighters now, what is Max going for?

cuadrado Bonucci de ligt pellegrini
Nandez Locatelli zakaria
Mckennie
Dybala vlahovic

lots of hustle and let the forwards figure it themselves?
 
Jun 6, 2015
11,391
With all these fighters now, what is Max going for?

cuadrado Bonucci de ligt pellegrini
Nandez Locatelli zakaria
Mckennie
Dybala vlahovic

lots of hustle and let the forwards figure it themselves?
Imo it will be

Tek
Danilo - Bonucci - De ligt - Sandro
Cuads - Zakaria - Locatelli - McKen
Dybala - Vlahovic

Perhaps in some games where he wants to be super solid it could be

Tek
Danilo - Bonucci - De ligt - Sandro
Zakaria - Locatelli - Rabiot
McKennie
Dybala - Vlahovic

or even

Tek
Danilo - Bonucci - De ligt - Sandro
McKen - Zakaria - Locatelli - Rabiot
Dybala - Vlahovic
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,619
You said if we finish behind any of those teams. It’s very possible more than one of those teams finished in the 80-85 pt range. And very likely we aren’t winning 15 matches straight to finish the season. If you think our squad is that kind of juggernaut you are delusional. The best point total of the Allegri era at 95 points, was 2.5 pts/match. Which would be 38 pts over the last 15 matches. 80 pts to end the season. If we do that, it’s a fantastic finish to the season. Who the fuck cares if we finish 2nd, 3rd, 4th. Top 4 and progressing in CL is all that matters. Ya know, the things that earn us money so we can fix the gaping holes remaining in this squad and get back to winning scudetti.

But continue with your nonsense, dude. Horrible failure if we finish on 80 pts but behind Milan or Napoli lol
You are inventing things and then calling it nonsense :lol:

The fact is we have a 7 point gap to teams that have significantly worse players and none of whom are juggernauts either. It's already shameful that this gap exists in the first place, but let's for get this for a second.

7 points gap on shit teams with half the season to go. If that's too high of a target for a coach who is supposedly a genius I don't know what to say
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
36,923
With all these fighters now, what is Max going for?

cuadrado Bonucci de ligt pellegrini
Nandez Locatelli zakaria
Mckennie
Dybala vlahovic

lots of hustle and let the forwards figure it themselves?
Dyballer will finally get the freedom to unleash his creative magic... NOOOT.
 

campionesidd

Senior Member
Mar 16, 2013
16,821
You are inventing things and then calling it nonsense :lol:

The fact is we have a 7 point gap to teams that have significantly worse players and none of whom are juggernauts either. It's already shameful that this gap exists in the first place, but let's for get this for a second.

7 points gap on shit teams with half the season to go. If that's too high of a target for a coach who is supposedly a genius I don't know what to say
That gap was 16 points earlier this season. And as you very well know, we had a dysfunctional attack because of Ronaldo’s departure and a disorganized defense inherited from Allegri’s predecessors. Now our defense finally looks solid, and with the new additions in midfield in attack, we should be able to score more goals.
Of course you don’t care about all this. You don’t care about Juve. All you care about is being right about Allegri being a shitty coach. I can easily see you rooting for us to fail the rest of the season so Allegri is sacked. In fact I’d bet on it, and I’m not a betting man.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
You are inventing things and then calling it nonsense :lol:

The fact is we have a 7 point gap to teams that have significantly worse players and none of whom are juggernauts either. It's already shameful that this gap exists in the first place, but let's for get this for a second.

7 points gap on shit teams with half the season to go. If that's too high of a target for a coach who is supposedly a genius I don't know what to say
What a nincompoop. :lol:
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,135
Yep this is my concern, Vlahovic is a beast and he needs feeding but we have limited wing options and through the middle our players lack creativity.

The 352 or 532 with wingback system seems to be the most suited. Rugani has done well and I wouldn’t at all mind seeing him rotate with Danilo in that 3 with Bonucci and MDL. Cuadrado on the right with Berna/AS/MDS
a CM of Zakaria, McKennie and Locatelli actually sounds ok and Dybala Vlahovic is really strong, they will complement though they are both left footed.

Problem is though we’re not as balanced as we were at the start of the season (not that we were particularly balanced then) and a couple of injuries (if we lose Cuadrado we are in the shit) could really hamper us
352 is going to suck. All it will amount to is Cuadrado launching balls into Vlahovic from the right and Chiellini “playmaking” on the left.
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,619
That gap was 16 points earlier this season. And as you very well know, we had a dysfunctional attack because of Ronaldo’s departure and a disorganized defense inherited from Allegri’s predecessors. Now our defense finally looks solid, and with the new additions in midfield in attack, we should be able to score more goals.
Of course you don’t care about all this. You don’t care about Juve. All you care about is being right about Allegri being a shitty coach. I can easily see you rooting for us to fail the rest of the season so Allegri is sacked. In fact I’d bet on it, and I’m not a betting man.
If thinking that helps you sleep at night then by all means :lol: but I think I am in a better position to know my own thoughts.

We all want to see the club on top. While I think Allegri is better than others I don't and never saw him as a genius coach at anything.

You're the ones that say he is a genius. And yet for some reason whenever asked about what's reasonable to expect in terms of results you set the bar so low, lower than you held it for freaking Pirlo.

Goes to show you are not really confident in Allegri's abilities at all. I barely like the guy and I think he should and will do better than 4th.
 

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