Massimiliano Allegri (351 Viewers)

[juve123]

I agree we’ve not seen any improvement and that’s definitely on Allegri. I expected much more from him

I think we have no direction and project where we are heading that clearly falls on Agnelli and co the way management were not aware of ronaldo plans and buying Kean for 40 million euros shows incompetence

 

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[Adrian]

Players aside, the team lacks an identity and has zero energy. Allegri has been trying to steady the ship before it even left for sea...and hasn't been able to handle to it at all.

What exactly is he trying to make work here? A 442 using central midfielders as wingers?

He lacks personnel in midfield but makes it 10 times worse.

And make no mistake, sacking allegri now thinking a zidane replacement will have major positive impacts is BS. We are fucked.

 

[pavelnel]

I don’t recall any players playing brilliantly under Pirlo. We had Chiesa possibly but this season Chiesa has been regularly injured or dealing with niggles, cuadrado was also good but the guy is now a year older and can’t be expected to carry the team, he also had Ronaldo to assist to. The other players that are bad this season were bad last season.

Morata started last season fantastically, than his form dropped, but Chiesa, Cuad and Ronaldo had their good spells for the rest of the season. We weren't a good team but most of the time there was a player or two capable of rescuing a point.
Look at us now: our top scorer has scored 3 goals so far...
Stop deluding yourself people. How far some of you are willing to go to defend the undefendable?
It is a simple fact that there has been no outstanding performer since the start of the season, which I have never seen before. I put the blame on the only person who can be responsible for this: Eurolol Max 4:0 Allegri.

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[Dostoevsky]

So fuck any coach ever then?

Literally every winning coach ever had a great team, wtf are you talking about?

Allegri absolutely shat the bed a lot this season, made some bad choices tactically, with subs, with starting 11s etc. He is absolutely one of the people to share blame for the season so far.

But it is about bigger picture. Who here has the benefit of the doubt when it comes to past success? Allegri or players? Down which path have we gone last two years, who did we trust? Coaches or players?

There is LITERALLY no 5 players in this team that deserve to be at Juventus. And it's not that all of them are so bad individually or that Genoa or whoever has a better team, but so much bad energy and bad attitude has accumulated here that there is no other solution than to get them all out and quick. Same thing happened at the end of the first Allegri stint, but he was the scapegoat then because it is easier to change the coach than 20 players and someone had to leave.

Well fuck this club if they decide that is the case again without at least 10-15 changes and full confidence in Max for at least 3 full seasons.

You misunderstood all of my posts.

I never said coach wasn't important. I was saying how we had no improvement ever since we signed Allegri which at this point seems like wasting money which we desperately need to improve our squad.

I also also saying that, obviously, Allegri isn't suited coach to BUILD a team, he's more of a type to lead already built team -- which we don't need at the moment.

Lastly, yes, eventhough I do not rate PLENTY of our players, us being 10th in Serie A is devastating, underperforming and miserable. He was given Locatelli and he made literally zero improvement with our squad. When he arrived everyone said he's here involved with the transfers, he's more than just a coach, and if that's the case then he surely green lighted Kean who wasn't bought for cheap either. So, technically, it's kinda his fault too, no?

 

[kappa96]

Danilo improved greatly also under Pirloh.

 

[IlCapitano]

You misunderstood all of my posts.

I never said coach wasn't important. I was saying how we had no improvement ever since we signed Allegri which at this point seems like wasting money which we desperately need to improve our squad.

I also also saying that, obviously, Allegri isn't suited coach to BUILD a team, he's more of a type to lead already built team -- which we don't need at the moment.

Lastly, yes, eventhough I do not rate PLENTY of our players, us being 10th in Serie A is devastating, underperforming and miserable. He was given Locatelli and he made literally zero improvement with our squad. When he arrived everyone said he's here involved with the transfers, he's more than just a coach, and if that's the case then he surely green lighted Kean who wasn't bought for cheap either. So, technically, it's kinda his fault too, no?

I just said everything that is happening is partly his fault. But also if we're going down the road of who should leave and things like that Allegri is absolutely last on that list.

Ofc we've had improvements, but they were sporadic and inconsistent.

Allegri literally built his entire career on improving teams and moving up. From lower leagues to Cagliari and Milan to Juventus in his first stint.

 

[X Æ A-12]

It would be convenient if the coach was the cause of all the problems but I think its time to accept this squad really is that bad and its going to take time and money to reverse that

 

[juve123]

Allegri “We don’t make the most of the chances we create, Atalanta had only one shot on goal from our error, and as I said yesterday, it’s the goal that counts.
“There is some anxiety, the players are hasty and rush things."

 

[Dostoevsky]

I just said everything that is happening is partly his fault. But also if we're going down the road of who should leave and things like that Allegri is absolutely last on that list.

Ofc we've had improvements, but they were sporadic and inconsistent.

Allegri literally built his entire career on improving teams and moving up. From lower leagues to Cagliari and Milan to Juventus in his first stint.

He changed teams from weaker to stronger but he didn't build a squad. He failed with weaker team at Milan just like he's failing here at the moment. He was amazing for us, but back then we had monster midfield which even Pirlo would use to his advantage.

 

[Post Ironic]

He changed teams from weaker to stronger but he didn't build a squad. He failed with weaker team at Milan just like he's failing here at the moment. He was amazing for us, but back then we had monster midfield which even Pirlo would use to his advantage.

Very few here called Pjanic and Khedira a monster midfield

Oh how the times have changed.

 

[s4tch]

It would be convenient if the coach was the cause of all the problems but I think its time to accept this squad really is that bad and its going to take time and money to reverse that

it's not 8th place bad though

we have plenty of issues and unfortunately this season allegri is one of them. i love max but this is a disappointing season for him too.

i'll keep watching matches like i always did, still, fuck this season. too many bad decisions everywhere.

 

[kappa96]

I just said everything that is happening is partly his fault. But also if we're going down the road of who should leave and things like that Allegri is absolutely last on that list.

Ofc we've had improvements, but they were sporadic and inconsistent.

Allegri literally built his entire career on improving teams and moving up. From lower leagues to Cagliari and Milan to Juventus in his first stint.

Unfortunately we aren't in a period where being friends with your players works.
We are in a period of time where, how some else already said, we need a dictator, and a ruthless one.

He is going to fail and as I always said, failure is intolerable in Juve, otherwise we risk turning into a arsenal.
Come end of the season I will probably call for his head, even sooner if things don't go nowhere.

 

[MikeM]

Allegri “We don’t make the most of the chances we create, Atalanta had only one shot on goal from our error, and as I said yesterday, it’s the goal that counts.
“There is some anxiety, the players are hasty and rush things."

An error that Atalanta created by pressuring us.

It would be nice to get an easy goal here and there without having to build out from our goalline.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Very few here called Pjanic and Khedira a monster midfield

Oh how the times have changed.

Pjanic was great for us imo. People are brainwashed obviously. His absence was felt as soon as he left us and we had nobody with a brain. Of course he was ghost at times too but I always loved him here.

I had zero positive things about Khedira. But at this point I wish we had him LOL.

But I was more talking about Vidal and Marchisio. He had them in his season, no? I might have mistaken there, dunno.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Allegri “We don’t make the most of the chances we create, Atalanta had only one shot on goal from our error, and as I said yesterday, it’s the goal that counts.
“There is some anxiety, the players are hasty and rush things."

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[singus]

So fuck any coach ever then?

Literally every winning coach ever had a great team, wtf are you talking about?

Allegri absolutely shat the bed a lot this season, made some bad choices tactically, with subs, with starting 11s etc. He is absolutely one of the people to share blame for the season so far.

But it is about bigger picture. Who here has the benefit of the doubt when it comes to past success? Allegri or players? Down which path have we gone last two years, who did we trust? Coaches or players?

There is LITERALLY no 5 players in this team that deserve to be at Juventus. And it's not that all of them are so bad individually or that Genoa or whoever has a better team, but so much bad energy and bad attitude has accumulated here that there is no other solution than to get them all out and quick. Same thing happened at the end of the first Allegri stint, but he was the scapegoat then because it is easier to change the coach than 20 players and someone had to leave.

Well fuck this club if they decide that is the case again without at least 10-15 changes and full confidence in Max for at least 3 full seasons.

lol this dude is ready to give mr fraud at least 3 seasons

By that time we might have doubled our Serie B titles.

 

[juve123]

An error that Atalanta created by pressuring us.

It would be nice to get an easy goal here and there without having to build out from our goalline.

With princess Dybala and moody Morata you won't get many goals

 

[IlCapitano]

Yes, but Ronaldo was our main focus of goals. Those should should be sort of spread around now. Sure, losing Ronaldo is/was a blow. We have Chiesa, though, it was huge signing for us and look at him. One of the best players we had, one of the performances for Italy, and look at him now. Allegri can't even use him.

Chiesa literally has the same number of goals he had last season at this point. And 3 assists less but that is easily explained by no Ronaldo.

He had 1-1 with the GK today, what did he do? Time for everyone to take accountability for their part

 

[Dostoevsky]

Chiesa literally has the same number of goals he had last season at this point. And 3 assists less but that is easily explained by no Ronaldo.

He had 1-1 with the GK today, what did he do? Time for everyone to take accountability for their part

Then look at everyone.

Cuadrado was one of our most effective players last season. This time around he's among the least effective ones.

As for Chiesa, it's not just goals and assists. He used to PLAY great, now he's really average. And he doesn't seem to be the only one.

 

[Post Ironic]

Pjanic was great for us imo. People are brainwashed obviously. His absence was felt as soon as he left us and we had nobody with a brain. Of course he was ghost at times too but I always loved him here.

I had zero positive things about Khedira. But at this point I wish we had him LOL.

But I was more talking about Vidal and Marchisio. He had them in his season, no? I might have mistaken there, dunno.

He had the MVPP midfield for one season, and then we dismantled it over the next two and Marchisio had career ending injuries basically.

100% agree on Pjanic. And Khedira, while he was never going to be star, he was a very intelligent, solid kid who didn’t make mistakes. We could definitely use capable replacements for both.