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Dostoevsky

Tzu
Administrator
May 27, 2007
89,040
I don't know why don't you get it the winning cycle is over unless we make serious investment in team even the mediocre Roma spent 100 million euros coaches need support from the management Klopp Zidane tuchel mourinho pep guardiola have got it
And we didn't spend? :lol2: We spent a lot and our wage bill is 3-4x higher than Atalanta's.

We bought Chiesa and Kean. That's tons of money. We bought de Ligt and McDonalds. We weren't gifted those players. It's almost 200mln euros spent on those.
 

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Dostoevsky

Tzu
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May 27, 2007
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We had a player with 30+ goals per season. Now we have Morata as a main goalscorer.
Yes, but Ronaldo was our main focus of goals. Those should should be sort of spread around now. Sure, losing Ronaldo is/was a blow. We have Chiesa, though, it was huge signing for us and look at him. One of the best players we had, one of the performances for Italy, and look at him now. Allegri can't even use him.
 

Kasaki

Moggi's Assistant
Jun 1, 2010
13,750
Disappointed in Allegri this team isn’t that bad. I saw Conte get the likes of Estigarribia to ball so I truly think it’s a training thing.

There’s no intensity in our play, we get pushed aside everywhere on the pitch. Bar de ligt

also wtf is this 4-4-2 shit man major Del Nero vibes
 

kao_ray

Senior Member
Feb 28, 2014
6,568
Yes, but Ronaldo was our main focus of goals. Those should should be sort of spread around now. Sure, losing Ronaldo is/was a blow. We have Chiesa, though, it was huge signing for us and look at him. One of the best players we had, one of the performances for Italy, and look at him now. Allegri can't even use him.
A consistent goalscorer would be enough. Morata and Dybala aren't consistent goalscorers so far.
 

juve123

Senior Member
Aug 10, 2017
16,657
And we didn't spend? :lol2: We spent a lot and our wage bill is 3-4x higher than Atalanta's.

We bought Chiesa and Kean. That's tons of money. We bought de Ligt and McDonalds. We weren't gifted those players. It's almost 200mln euros spent on those.
Are you okay Chiesa and McKennie was brought under Pirlo and only two players were signed one is Locatelli and the other is Kean after Ronaldo left

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A consistent goalscorer would be enough. Morata and Dybala aren't consistent goalscorers so far.
They think Kean and kaio are the next haaland and Mbappe
 

Dostoevsky

Tzu
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May 27, 2007
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Are you okay Chiesa and McKennie was brought under Pirlo and only two players were signed one is Locatelli and the other is Kean after Ronaldo left
But that's what I mean, dude. Pirlo was using Chiesa better than Allegri. And Pirlo is a nobody.

People here were fapping all over Locatelli during the summer. Hard fapping that is. Majority said our problems are solved and, apparently, that isn't the case. But you wanna say that we didn't spend but we gave 35-40mln for each of them? In one summer.
 

Mike-e-y

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2004
11,188
And yet, some players under Pirlo played brilliantly, although for brief periods. Under Allegri : everyone is useless.
Nope, I do not buy the excuse that all our players are bad. This is nonsense.

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I don’t recall any players playing brilliantly under Pirlo. We had Chiesa possibly but this season Chiesa has been regularly injured or dealing with niggles, cuadrado was also good but the guy is now a year older and can’t be expected to carry the team, he also had Ronaldo to assist to. The other players that are bad this season were bad last season.
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
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And yet, some players under Pirlo played brilliantly, although for brief periods. Under Allegri : everyone is useless.
Nope, I do not buy the excuse that all our players are bad. This is nonsense.

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chiesa and morata had injuries. chiesa came back from the nt with an injury, and morata already turned to shit under pirlo. dybala can't get continuity either.

i dont want to find excuses for the table, that's terrible and obviously below our potential, even with this relatively shitty squad. we should have beaten empoli and udinese to begin with. but without ronaldo we always were going to have problems with scoring. we weren't creative with pirlo either. we had 3 weapons: ronaldo, chiesa, and those cuadrado crosses. now we have two (dybala dribbling by some defenders and those cuadrado crosses) before chiesa returns to full fitness.

i don't envy allegri at all. i would love him to try a vanilla 4-3-3 finally, because this 4-4-2 is clearly a dead end.
 

B3N

Floro Fckin' Flores
May 16, 2010
6,660
Loca is still high from his Sassuolo and Euros time give him another month of chasing shadows and he will be on the same wave length as rest of the team.
 

IlCapitano

Senior Member
Dec 16, 2012
5,614
Yes it is.

Allegri is not capable of handling this squad. It sure is a weak side but seeing us 10th is horrible and Allegri is to be blamed.

Seriously, fuck coaches when they need Sergej, Zaniolo, Haaland, Barella and others to win. Our current squad IS bad but we're underperforming and our coach is surely one of main reasons we're sucking.

I wanted Allegri here but I was hoping he could make this squad work. He started off decent but it just kept getting worse and worse, right now we're on Pirlo's level. :tdown: Simply horrible and humiliating.
So fuck any coach ever then?

Literally every winning coach ever had a great team, wtf are you talking about?

Allegri absolutely shat the bed a lot this season, made some bad choices tactically, with subs, with starting 11s etc. He is absolutely one of the people to share blame for the season so far.

But it is about bigger picture. Who here has the benefit of the doubt when it comes to past success? Allegri or players? Down which path have we gone last two years, who did we trust? Coaches or players?

There is LITERALLY no 5 players in this team that deserve to be at Juventus. And it's not that all of them are so bad individually or that Genoa or whoever has a better team, but so much bad energy and bad attitude has accumulated here that there is no other solution than to get them all out and quick. Same thing happened at the end of the first Allegri stint, but he was the scapegoat then because it is easier to change the coach than 20 players and someone had to leave.

Well fuck this club if they decide that is the case again without at least 10-15 changes and full confidence in Max for at least 3 full seasons.
 

CarloP

Senior Member
Jan 24, 2010
665
Honest question: who/what is to blame for the lack of goals and attacking sharpness? That to me is the single most pathetic area of the club and has been for some time now. Even when Ronaldo was here.

Just look at the player values for our attackers compared to their goals and assists. It’s ridiculous.
 

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