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pavelnel

Senior Member
Oct 24, 2006
2,474
I put the blame for Juve's failure this season entirely on Eurolol because there is not a single player in top form right now. How is that even possible? Chiesa, Cuad, Morata - all trash this year in comparison to the last.


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kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
7,475
Just wondering.. Sarri/Pirlo failed experiments do not really justify getting back to this Allegri.

Not really sure what the fvck could go wrong if you take off Morata for a fresh legged Kaio at like 70' min.

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And how about not playing fagiot if he doesn't give 100 percent.
You se him strolling on the pitch after losing the ball in the 20th minute, instant sub, send him home.
His laid back attitude has probably infected this weak version of Sandro and out of position Chiesa.
 

Dostoevsky

Tzu
Administrator
May 27, 2007
89,040
So, we've had different coach every year for a while now and every year, we're underperforming. Maybe the reality is, that we were overperforming with the aging core and now we're at where we're supposed to be. Ronaldo saved us last year multiple times and scored couple crucial goals to make UCL last season in the last possible times, so why should we be better than what we were last year?

We got team full of players with the no capability of playing football as a team. We're static, we don't move, we are lazy, we don't offer any passing routes for others and we cannot create anything because of it. We're first on a mobile phone after a loss, to check how's social media even we should fucking take a deep look into the mirror and get to a gym and literally punish ourselves for being bad. Not a single wizardly manager can fix it, when it's deep down in our players mindset to be average. Ronaldo brought some winning mentality to here, but seems it won't carry forever in the eyes of the young.
The reason is very simple. We had Pirlo who had zero experience as a coach, he had low wages too. We brought Allegri who has 5x bigger wages and good record behind him. And you wanna say we should stay the same? If that's true then firing Pirlo was the stupidest thing we did since we're wasting money on Allegri who's offering as much as him.
 

Niku

Senior Member
Jan 14, 2014
1,223
Our entire midfield, except Loca, are the worst we have had in like 15 years or more.
I will give Allegri until the end of season of course, but he should try not repeating the same fucking mistakes.
 

pavelnel

Senior Member
Oct 24, 2006
2,474
So, we've had different coach every year for a while now and every year, we're underperforming. Maybe the reality is, that we were overperforming with the aging core and now we're at where we're supposed to be. Ronaldo saved us last year multiple times and scored couple crucial goals to make UCL last season in the last possible times, so why should we be better than what we were last year?

We got team full of players with the no capability of playing football as a team. We're static, we don't move, we are lazy, we don't offer any passing routes for others and we cannot create anything because of it. We're first on a mobile phone after a loss, to check how's social media even we should fucking take a deep look into the mirror and get to a gym and literally punish ourselves for being bad. Not a single wizardly manager can fix it, when it's deep down in our players mindset to be average. Ronaldo brought some winning mentality to here, but seems it won't carry forever in the eyes of the young.
Some of these players performed much better last year than this season. Today - not a single player in good form. How do you explain this?
Even the most protected player on this forum -De Ligt - is total shit right now.

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Strickland

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May 17, 2019
5,862
I get giving him a season, but I don’t think he’s the right manager to take us to a new era. We need new ideas and it’s obvious he doesn’t have them.
Maybe, dunno. In his first 3 seasons the team improved massively after the winter break, he had plenty of good ideas back then. Hopefully he isnt washed up and can muster something together again.
 

kao_ray

Senior Member
Feb 28, 2014
6,568
The reason is very simple. We had Pirlo who had zero experience as a coach, he had low wages too. We brought Allegri who has 5x bigger wages and good record behind him. And you wanna say we should stay the same? If that's true then firing Pirlo was the stupidest thing we did since we're wasting money on Allegri who's offering as much as him.
I don't think there is a coach that can get more from those players. Bar Chiesa, Cuadrado and Chiellini all the other players look overrated or not on an elite team level.
 

Mike-e-y

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2004
11,188
The reason is very simple. We had Pirlo who had zero experience as a coach, he had low wages too. We brought Allegri who has 5x bigger wages and good record behind him. And you wanna say we should stay the same? If that's true then firing Pirlo was the stupidest thing we did since we're wasting money on Allegri who's offering as much as him.
What’s clear is the problem is not the manager, it’s everything. We’ve replaced the manager 3 years running and continued to decline ever since.

Pirlo did a better job than Allegri in terms of performance, this season will be worse than last. Now this football club (and fans) needs to realise that the change here needs to be from the top down, not just blamed on the manager.

I’m so disappointed with Allegri, I expected at least a slight improvement so he is definitely not without blame. Sacking him and appointing someone else without fixing any of the other issues that exist will be as futile as the previous management changes
 
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Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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I don't think there is a coach that can get more from those players. Bar Chiesa, Cuadrado and Chiellini all the other players look overrated or not on an elite team level.
We're among top 10 teams considering how much we spend on wages. We've got de Ligt, Chiesa, Cuadrado, Chiellini, Dybala. Some mediocrity like Bonucci, Morata, Sandro. You wanna say we deserve to be 10th in Serie A? Really?

But if you still think no coach would make difference then we made a huge mistake hiring Allegri. Pirlo should have stayed.
 

pavelnel

Senior Member
Oct 24, 2006
2,474
I don't think there is a coach that can get more from those players. Bar Chiesa, Cuadrado and Chiellini all the other players look overrated or not on an elite team level.
Come on, stop with this BS. Cuad and Chiesa had outstanding season under Pirlo. Who is having a great season right now?
Even Loca started well and has faded away in recent weeks.
Allegri is the only one responsible for all of our players being trash.

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kao_ray

Senior Member
Feb 28, 2014
6,568
Common, stop with this BS. Cuad and Chiesa had outstanding season under Pirlo. Who is having a great season right now?
Even Loca started well and has faded away in recent weeks.
Allegri is the only one responsible for all of our players being trash.

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Cuads and Chiesa had a rapist that knows how to put it in and not impotent Morata with a flappy cock.
 

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