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Vialli_92

Senior Member
Mar 7, 2013
6,500
It's not about who to assign, it's the random decisions that has been flowing ever since Marotta left. It doesn't matter now, what's done is done.
I said it since 2016. Allegri is not the answer and management have been taking this club backwards as well with stupid decisions one after another.

Juve think they are a top club but we don't make the decisions top clubs make.
 

Xorim

Junior Member
Aug 31, 2015
367
I wish we appointed Conte instead. And not because I think Conte is much better, its just that I feel like he's the perfect man to start a new cycle with.
Absolutely. Conte turns shit to gold.

Bringing Conte back is out of question, but could it be that Conte is a better league coach than Allegri?
Conte is a better league coach than Allegri

An egoistic twat, but a great coach
 

Xorim

Junior Member
Aug 31, 2015
367
Allegri is the better cup coach
Is he though? The finals were achievements yes, but he had a great player base. And it's not like we steamrolled Monaco both of these CLs to reach the finals.

The 2016 loss to bayern is imo not that much on Evra, but more Allegris fault for taking an insane Morata (that day) at who slapped Bayern across the pitch all game while 2-0 up. After that change we lost control. And i still feel like this was our season to win it the most.
 

campionesidd

Senior Member
Mar 16, 2013
16,824
Is he though? The finals were achievements yes, but he had a great player base. And it's not like we steamrolled Monaco both of these CLs to reach the finals.

The 2016 loss to bayern is imo not that much on Evra, but more Allegris fault for taking an insane Morata (that day) at who slapped Bayern across the pitch all game while 2-0 up. After that change we lost control. And i still feel like this was our season to win it the most.
Have you even see Conte’s cup record lmao. Zero Coppa Italia, 2 botched Europa Leagues and failure to get out of the group stage in almost all CL campaigns.
And you’re saying Allegri isn’t better because he didn’t win the CL final and lost against Bayern (in an insanely poor refereeing performance and an injury crisis)?
Double standards much?
Oh and as far as having a stacked team when he reached the CL finals: he basically had Contes team the first time, and a completely new midfield and attack for the second one.
 

.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
82,903
Is he though? The finals were achievements yes, but he had a great player base. And it's not like we steamrolled Monaco both of these CLs to reach the finals.

The 2016 loss to bayern is imo not that much on Evra, but more Allegris fault for taking an insane Morata (that day) at who slapped Bayern across the pitch all game while 2-0 up. After that change we lost control. And i still feel like this was our season to win it the most.
You’re great at this speculative hindsight game

+rep
 

juve123

Senior Member
Aug 10, 2017
16,651
I don't know how a coach is being blamed for amateurish mistakes made by players we literally had half of our players missing we were tactically set up well and everything was going well when a clown made a blunder and the entire game changed after that
 

MrMonkey

Senior Member
Jul 15, 2017
4,291
Of course everyone can be a better coach when your coach isn't winning. I believe Max has best winning coaching record at Juve. I don't know, how well did Conte do with Juve in CL action? Isn't he a mercenary nomad type coach constantly moving on? If Juve is going to build for the future getting younger quality players, no way want him here.

FOR ME JUVE MANAGEMENT HAS 99% BLAME FOR TEAM'S POSITION PRESENTLY. Though Max must find a way for 4th place.:xfingers:
 

pavluska

Senior Member
Apr 25, 2013
7,339
Is he though? The finals were achievements yes, but he had a great player base. And it's not like we steamrolled Monaco both of these CLs to reach the finals.

The 2016 loss to bayern is imo not that much on Evra, but more Allegris fault for taking an insane Morata (that day) at who slapped Bayern across the pitch all game while 2-0 up. After that change we lost control. And i still feel like this was our season to win it the most.
You're right about everything. Starting Evra over a really good AS was also a really bad decision. As was telling the team to take the foot of the gas after 3-3 with Real when we had them by the balls. All bizarre decisions.

But he's still overall a good tournament coach (was with Milan too, the reason we had hired him). And Conte is a CL failure.
 
Jun 16, 2020
12,435
Is he though? The finals were achievements yes, but he had a great player base. And it's not like we steamrolled Monaco both of these CLs to reach the finals.

The 2016 loss to bayern is imo not that much on Evra, but more Allegris fault for taking an insane Morata (that day) at who slapped Bayern across the pitch all game while 2-0 up. After that change we lost control. And i still feel like this was our season to win it the most.
Is he though? When was the last time Conte achieved something in CL
 

Xorim

Junior Member
Aug 31, 2015
367
Have you even see Conte’s cup record lmao. Zero Coppa Italia, 2 botched Europa Leagues and failure to get out of the group stage in almost all CL campaigns.
And you’re saying Allegri isn’t better because he didn’t win the CL final and lost against Bayern (in an insanely poor refereeing performance and an injury crisis)?
Double standards much?
I won't count coppa italia and europa league, cause these cups have almost no attraction to top tier clubs as we should be one.
CL he had exactly two, one he failed miserably (galatasaray) and the other one we beat the reigning champions in group and lost in the quarters to the upcoming champions.
He took the worst italian squad i have ever seen to the quarter finals in euro 2016 beating the reigning champs spain.

I just don't see this record as "that" bad

Sure we can't change anything and lets hope Allegri proves me wrong. I just dont believe it to get better with him at the steering wheel.
Maybe i'm also extra salty because those first three games sucked big time,. Screw you, Wojech
 

DAiDEViL

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2015
64,698
I don't know how a coach is being blamed for amateurish mistakes made by players we literally had half of our players missing we were tactically set up well and everything was going well when a clown made a blunder and the entire game changed after that
Yep. And it wasn't the first time.

We are just mentally fragile as fuck.

That game looked like a win until the Woj fuck up.

I get why he continued to play him, cause once he benches him in that "form" he's done and dusted. But it's been too long now and Perin needs to get his chance. How many points do we need to drop before we drop Woj?

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