Massimiliano Allegri (197 Viewers)

[pitbull]

I think you have to credit Allegri for maneuvering his way through all the squad changes, not many coaches would've handled them the way he has. I just can't help but wonder what he'd be able to achieve if he managed to form such a strong team unit, that our important players would be able to resist temptations and would stop leaving for a year or two.

 

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[Bianconero81]

Three games which highlight Allegri's limitations as a coach:

1.) Bayern 4 - Juventus 2: Taking off Morata and Cuadrado who were wreaking havoc and causing problems for Bayern. When he took Morata off, we were still leading 2-1, and then he decided to take off Cuadrado in the 89th minute. Never go full retard Bro.s

2.) 2015 CL Final: Barcelona were pegged back by our equalizer, and we should have been more daring and aggressive. We had Pogba, Vidal, Marchisio, and Pirlo in that midfield. We should have pressed them hard instead of retreating and sitting back, inviting them to attack us once we had equalized. Yes, some incidents didn't go our way, but we took the wrong approach after their equalizer, and that's on Allegri.
rit
3.) 2017 CL Final: We were pretty dominant in the first half, but faded into obscurity in the 2nd. Allegri should've taken a more aggressive and proactive approach as soon as we conceded that 2nd goal. We weren't able to string three passes together. It was an incredibly embarrassing 2nd half performance, and the coach has to shoulder some of the responsibility here.

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Tevez: Dybala
Llorente: Higuain
Vidal:?
Bonucci:Benatia
Alves: ?
Pogba: pjanic

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We seemed to equal or upgrade most of the time with the exception of not finding a RB or Vidal replacement right away. Where we weakened in those spots we strengthened in most others.

The team has been constantly rejuvenated and strengthened despite selling.

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You’re talking about balance but I think on the Vidal and Alves occasion you are right about not finding a replacement but we have strengthened other sales and areas of the team from the sales

I wasn't referring to you Hustinki

We can't run parallels with the 2010 squad. We're consistently adding new and younger pieces, but I honestly don't think they're at the same level of the guys they're replacing. Vidal is vastly superior to Khedira; it's not even a contest. Bonucci and Alves haven't been adequately replaced (I'm not counting Howedes cuz he's terminally injured). As for Pjanic, he's very good, but Prime Pogba at Juventus was still a superior player. Our midfield went from being a 9 to a 7.5 (I'm being generous here). Our defense used to be a 9, but is currently an 8. Our attack has been upgraded, but I feel we wasted 40 million too much on one winger. I believe one of Berna or Costa would've sufficed, considering how sparingly Allegri utilizes them.

 

[Salvo]

Three games which highlight Allegri's limitations as a coach:

1.) Bayern 4 - Juventus 2: Taking off Morata and Cuadrado who were wreaking havoc and causing problems for Bayern. When he took Morata off, we were still leading 2-1, and then he decided to take off Cuadrado in the 89th minute. Never go full retard Bro.s

2.) 2015 CL Final: Barcelona were pegged back by our equalizer, and we should have been more daring and aggressive. We had Pogba, Vidal, Marchisio, and Pirlo in that midfield. We should have pressed them hard instead of retreating and sitting back, inviting them to attack us once we had equalized. Yes, some incidents didn't go our way, but we took the wrong approach after their equalizer, and that's on Allegri.
rit
3.) 2017 CL Final: We were pretty dominant in the first half, but faded into obscurity in the 2nd. Allegri should've taken a more aggressive and proactive approach as soon as we conceded that 2nd goal. We weren't able to string three passes together. It was an incredibly embarrassing 2nd half performance, and the coach has to shoulder some of the responsibility here.

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I wasn't referring to you Hustinki

We can't run parallels with the 2010 squad. We're consistently adding new and younger pieces, but I honestly don't think they're at the same level of the guys they're replacing. Vidal is vastly superior to Khedira; it's not even a contest. Bonucci and Alves haven't been adequately replaced (I'm not counting Howedes cuz he's terminally injured). As for Pjanic, he's very good, but Prime Pogba at Juventus was still a superior player. Our midfield went from being a 9 to a 7.5 (I'm being generous here). Our defense used to be a 9, but is currently an 8. Our attack has been upgraded, but I feel we wasted 40 million too much on one winger. I believe one of Berna or Costa would've sufficed, considering how sparingly Allegri utilizes them.

Our lack of bench killed us in the last final

Bale came on for them, Lemina for us

 

[DAiDEViL]

Three games which highlight Allegri's limitations as a coach:

2.) 2015 CL Final: Barcelona were pegged back by our equalizer, and we should have been more daring and aggressive. We had Pogba, Vidal, Marchisio, and Pirlo in that midfield. We should have pressed them hard instead of retreating and sitting back, inviting them to attack us once we had equalized. Yes, some incidents didn't go our way, but we took the wrong approach after their equalizer, and that's on Allegri.

And i thought that's exactly what the team did and why we ended up losing. Must have watched another game.

 

[Bianconero81]

And i thought that's exactly what the team did and why we ended up losing. Must have watched another game.

We did that for about 10-15 minutes after we scored. Then, they scored their 2nd goal and we faded. We went back into a defensive shell and try to play a counterattacking game.

 

[Alin]

Tevez: Dybala
Llorente: Mandzukic/Higuain
Vidal: Khedira/Matuidi
Bonucci: Benatia/Howedes
Alves: DeSciglio
Pogba: Pjanic
Evra: Alex Sandro
Pirlo: ?

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We seemed to equal or upgrade most of the time with the exception of not finding a RB or Vidal replacement right away. Where we weakened in those spots we strengthened in most others.

The team has been constantly rejuvenated and strengthened despite selling.

To be more exact, i changed it a bit so it looks more accurate.

What we did is we upgraded with strong depth but on first team terms what happened is that we strongly upgraded our atack but in the same time we downgraded our midfield while in defence we slightly lost some creativity but is still as solid so more or less i can agree that current team is at least on equal teems with our previous squads.

# On a side note, we did rejuvenate our squad which was a must but i cant say i totally agree about us constantly strengthening despite selling, i think we all aware that neither Benatia or Howedes are an upgrade on Bonucci while in the same time Pjanic is not a upgrade on Pogba and DeSciglio is sure not Dani Alves...

 

[Monty]

Any coach would be happy with 25% of what he has achieved

 

[DAiDEViL]

We did that for about 10-15 minutes after we scored. Then, they scored their 2nd goal and we faded. We went back into a defensive shell and try to play a counterattacking game.

But we conceded the 2nd goal because we pressed and became too cocky after the equalizer. Max said it himself i think. After being 2:1 down against MSN it was always gonna be an uphill battle. Conceding that 2nd goal was crucial. But let's not talk about them lost finals anymore. Shit is making me sick.

 

[Hust]

Three games which highlight Allegri's limitations as a coach:

1.) Bayern 4 - Juventus 2: Taking off Morata and Cuadrado who were wreaking havoc and causing problems for Bayern. When he took Morata off, we were still leading 2-1, and then he decided to take off Cuadrado in the 89th minute. Never go full retard Bro.s

2.) 2015 CL Final: Barcelona were pegged back by our equalizer, and we should have been more daring and aggressive. We had Pogba, Vidal, Marchisio, and Pirlo in that midfield. We should have pressed them hard instead of retreating and sitting back, inviting them to attack us once we had equalized. Yes, some incidents didn't go our way, but we took the wrong approach after their equalizer, and that's on Allegri.
rit
3.) 2017 CL Final: We were pretty dominant in the first half, but faded into obscurity in the 2nd. Allegri should've taken a more aggressive and proactive approach as soon as we conceded that 2nd goal. We weren't able to string three passes together. It was an incredibly embarrassing 2nd half performance, and the coach has to shoulder some of the responsibility here.

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I wasn't referring to you Hustinki

We can't run parallels with the 2010 squad. We're consistently adding new and younger pieces, but I honestly don't think they're at the same level of the guys they're replacing. Vidal is vastly superior to Khedira; it's not even a contest. Bonucci and Alves haven't been adequately replaced (I'm not counting Howedes cuz he's terminally injured). As for Pjanic, he's very good, but Prime Pogba at Juventus was still a superior player. Our midfield went from being a 9 to a 7.5 (I'm being generous here). Our defense used to be a 9, but is currently an 8. Our attack has been upgraded, but I feel we wasted 40 million too much on one winger. I believe one of Berna or Costa would've sufficed, considering how sparingly Allegri utilizes them.

I haven’t been called Hustinki in a while

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I think we lost the CL last year because we lacked depth to properly replace players that were probably too hurt to play at HT. We fixed that this summer.

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Our lack of bench killed us in the last final

Bale came on for them, Lemina for us

Yep

My assessment as well. Didn’t have quality on the bench to add anything to the match. That’s different now

 

[s4tch]

Our lack of bench killed us in the last final

Bale came on for them, Lemina for us

and james rodriguez wasn't even on the bench for them ridiculous...

 

[ALC]

I think Pjanic has been better for us than Pogba.

 

[Juventus_Sydney]

The Bayern game mostly due to Evra mistake...

 

[Hust]

@zizinho @Bianconero81

 

[Nedved96]

Tevez: Dybala
Llorente: Higuain
Vidal:?
Bonucci:Benatia
Alves: ?
Pogba: pjanic

—

We seemed to equal or upgrade most of the time with the exception of not finding a RB or Vidal replacement right away. Where we weakened in those spots we strengthened in most others.

Tevez: Dybala
Llorente: Mandzukic
Bonucci: Benatia
Alves: De Sciglio
Vidal: Matuidi
Pirlo: Pjanic
Pogba: ???

IMO Pogba is the one guy we haven’t replaced yet, someone who can dribble and connect midfield to attack. Pjanic is more of a Pirlo who sits in front of the defence and spreads passes.

That’s why I really wanted Kovacic.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Any coach would be happy with 25% of what he has achieved

Mourinho that you?

 

[zizinho]

@zizinho @Bianconero81

The lurkers have been quit for a while, what's going on here

 

[Nedved96]

I still think that Bernardeschi can play the Pogba/Iniesta role (the most advanced player in a midfield trio) if Max gives him a run of games in that position.

 

[Bianconero81]

Any coach would be happy with 25% of what he has achieved

Any? Are you sure about that? I think Max is a great coach, but he does have his limitations, and only biased Tuzzers will fail to acknowledge that.

 

[Nedved96]

Max has one main weakness as a coach, and that’s teaching his players off-the-ball movement when we have possession.

https://twitter.com/11v11Sam/status/946397971574349827?s=17

If that has been us, our players would have been stationary and waiting to receive the ball at their feet before moving.

Whenever I watch other top teams play, the first thing I notice is how much easier it is for them to carve through packed defences than it is for us. This is an area where we are clearly lacking.

Max should just hire an attacking coach to teach our players how to plan an attack, because he himself doesn’t have much understanding about this part of the game.

 

[MikeM]

We are top 4 in goals per match in Europe, averaging 2.5 goals per match. With a 94M striker out of form and whatever Dybala is this year.