Massimiliano Allegri (194 Viewers)

[JCK]

Not really a starting line up because it lacks Dybala but it could be very useful. I'd exchange Pjanic with Marchisio. Rincon and Marchisio to hold the midfield together and Pjanic allowed to move forward, because that's where he's useful.

Then how would you deploy Dybala in a 4-3-3?

 

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[rakib567]

If Luis Enrique moved Messi from a central role to a right wing then i think we can do the same with dybala. Arguably, dybala's best pieces of skill have come from the right wing.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Put Dybala in a more advanced position in the middle and have Marchisio and Rincon as the other two? Perhaps too attack-minded though.

 

[MikeM]

Dybala already is forced wide in the 4-3-1-2 because when you reverse the ball there is no winger to supply width. If he wants to touch the ball he has to drift wide.

I really don't think there would be any difference in Dybala's touches as a RW or as SS in 4-3-1-2. Defensively, he would just have to track back slightly more and hold a wider position.

Offensively he can do whatever he wants like all the inside forwards do and have done forever.

 

[Hængebøffer]

He needs to figure out what his gameplan is. He fucked up big time against Fiorentina. Starts with a back three which haven't played together since October and both Buffon and Chiellini just returned from a flu. It was Fiorentina's biggest game of the season and the team looked nonchalant as hell.

 

[Red]

Allegri traditionally hasn't really gone in much for gameplans.

He organises a defence and then looks for individuals to do something good to get goals.

What you saw in the first two seasons was Allegri using Conte's style/plans and the link to Conte's set-up gradually getting weaker and weaker as time went on and players came and went.

Now there is nothing much left of the mentality and style of the Conte team and Allegri is left waiting for individuals to find form in order that the team can function.

If Allegri really focused on defensive organisation Juve could still be very strong due to the talent of forwards allowing them to do things outwith a plan/system, but Allegri doesn't seem ready to commit to that and is leaving Juve to play a shit imitation of Conte's football and that is worse than Allegri going back to what he was actually good at at Cagliari and Milan.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Allegri traditionally hasn't really gone in much for gameplans.

He organises a defence and then looks for individuals to do something good to get goals.

What you saw in the first two seasons was Allegri using Conte's style/plans and the link to Conte's set-up gradually getting weaker and weaker as time went on and players came and went.

Now there is nothing much left of the mentality and style of the Conte team and Allegri is left waiting for individuals to find form in order that the team can function.

If Allegri really focused on defensive organisation Juve could still be very strong due to the talent of forwards allowing them to do things outwith a plan/system, but Allegri doesn't seem ready to commit to that and is leaving Juve to play a shit imitation of Conte's football and that is worse than Allegri going back to what he was actually good at at Cagliari and Milan.

Hear hear

 

[Red]

I've found it quite interesting watching Juve's journey from the extremely systematic approach of Conte to the light-touch style of Allegri and wondering where the most effective point has been over the years.

Juve couldn't have done anything in Conte's first season or two without the rigid approach.

Then with the outstanding midfield they probably would have been better with more freedom in Conte's last season and they got that in Allegri's first year.

And now that the team has lost the strong midfield and got an outstanding attack, it's a different team and needs a different approach.

 

[DUKAC]

]Allegri traditionally hasn't really gone in much for gameplans.
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He organises a defence and then looks for individuals to do something good to get goals.

What you saw in the first two seasons was Allegri using Conte's style/plans and the link to Conte's set-up gradually getting weaker and weaker as time went on and players came and went.

Now there is nothing much left of the mentality and style of the Conte team and Allegri is left waiting for individuals to find form in order that the team can function.

If Allegri really focused on defensive organisation Juve could still be very strong due to the talent of forwards allowing them to do things outwith a plan/system, but Allegri doesn't seem ready to commit to that and is leaving Juve to play a shit imitation of Conte's football and that is worse than Allegri going back to what he was actually good at at Cagliari and Milan.

Couldn't agree more, especially bold parts.

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I've found it quite interesting watching Juve's journey from the extremely systematic approach of Conte to the light-touch style of Allegri and wondering where the most effective point has been over the years.

Juve couldn't have done anything in Conte's first season or two without the rigid approach.

Then with the outstanding midfield they probably would have been better with more freedom in Conte's last season and they got that in Allegri's first year.

And now that the team has lost the strong midfield and got an outstanding attack, it's a different team and needs a different approach.

And this also.

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Lots of things to fix for the man but he has to stop starting players based on reputation. It's inexcusable to bench Rugani for ill and out of form Chiellini. Same goes for Barzagli who isn't better than Rugani right now even though he wasn't half as bad as Chiellini was. Rugani and Bonucci should be starters because of the age (partly) and because of the fact they aren't as injury prone. Chiellini and Barzagli are plagued with injuries which hurts their form but also most probably their ability to continue playing regularly on this level. Both are perfect rotation players though.

In the midfield Sturaro has to be benched hard. No reason for him to be ahead of Rincon and hopefully it's a change that will materialize shortly.

I can understand Allegri's willingness to play 4312 but he shouldn't absolutely dispose an idea of playing 433-like formation where he can utilize Pjaca and/or Cuadrado. Both are hardwoking wingers who can offer us a lot going forward if they are given chances.

Oh, and Pjanic has to play regardless of formation.

Another thing to fix is motivation of the team. If he can't motivate the team then maybe the management will have to think of changing the coach at the end of the season. Without motivation, no team is going to win anything. It's on Allegri's shoulders to find ways to fix this issue as well.

Exactly .He is acting the same like his last Milan days.No clue , without any motivation skills.

 

[dolph]

I've found it quite interesting watching Juve's journey from the extremely systematic approach of Conte to the light-touch style of Allegri and wondering where the most effective point has been over the years.

Juve couldn't have done anything in Conte's first season or two without the rigid approach.

Then with the outstanding midfield they probably would have been better with more freedom in Conte's last season and they got that in Allegri's first year.

And now that the team has lost the strong midfield and got an outstanding attack, it's a different team and needs a different approach.

This is very true. In the first season with Allegri it was a breath of fresh air that the players was allowed to play more freely than under Conte.
This season we look clueless in most games. As you said Allegri has always been good at setting up a defence, and if we can get our transitions to work, we might have a chance in the big games in Europe.

 

[K.O.]

Then how would you deploy Dybala in a 4-3-3?

The "Dybala cannot function in a 4-3-3" is a myth. I cannot remember Allegri trying him there in a competitive match to pass a judgment.

Any player with the qualities of Dybala can function in different attacking roles. Dybala on the right wing is going to be explosive, how many times did we see him cut inside and unleash those poisonous shots?

Dybala - Higuain - Pjaca

I really hope Allegri gives 4-3-3 and this trident a shot.

 

[zizinho]

@Zacheryah

 

[DAiDEViL]

Is there a map to see where Dybala's goals come from? Doesn't he mostly score from a pretty much central position?

 

[zizinho]

last seasons 19 goals in Serie A

http://www.squawka.com/players/paul...son-2015/2016#177#all-matches#1-38#pitch-view

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no right foot ::

 

[juventus4life]

Lippi used to have few coaches on the pitch: Conte, Deschamps and Sousa. Purple fans are accusing Sousa is biding his time at Fiorentina, waiting for the coach job at Juve to open.

 

[Zacheryah]

The "Dybala cannot function in a 4-3-3" is a myth. I cannot remember Allegri trying him there in a competitive match to pass a judgment.

Any player with the qualities of Dybala can function in different attacking roles. Dybala on the right wing is going to be explosive, how many times did we see him cut inside and unleash those poisonous shots?

Dybala - Higuain - Pjaca

I really hope Allegri gives 4-3-3 and this trident a shot.

Dybala's qualities are exactly the reason he plays in the center and obviously not on the wing.

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@Zacheryah

Thanks, but i'm still on 8 points

 

[zizinho]

Dybala's qualities are exactly the reason he plays in the center and obviously not on the wing.

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Thanks, but i'm still on 8 points

I thought you could give an answer in a more non insulting way, because I couldn't bother explaining for the 10th time to someone why it's stupid to move your biggest offensive talent out of position just so we can play a fancy formation. This Berlusconi like fetish needs to stop seriously. Your reply was good enough tho

 

[K.O.]

Dybala's qualities are exactly the reason he plays in the center and obviously not on the wing.

He's a very good crosser, excellent dribbler, has a good pace and a quality player overall. Again, I have never seen him play on the wing for Juve to pass a judgment. Apparently, he played as a wing before joining Palermo and was considered a Messi understudy with Argentina.

If you want to get the best of the squad, you should not sacrifice what could be a brilliant trident just to get a 10/10 out of Dybala instead of a 9/10. Allegri needs to change something and 4-3-3 is there to try. Decent covers as well with the likes of Cuadrado and Alex Sandro both able to operate there.

 

[pitbull]

Allegri himself has said many times that we are not fixed on one formation and he likes the team being capable to play in several different ways. one time he said he might play Pjaca and Dybala together with a striker, another time he said he might play all three of Mandžukič, Dybala and Higuain together, so I wouldn't be so sure Dybala will not change his position anytime soon

 

[Red]

I don't see Allegri moving Dybala wide, though.

He may tinker with the shape and Dybala's position, but I can only see it being in 4-3-1-2 or 4-3-2-1.

That means Dybala's position would just be slight variations on where he usually plays.