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K.O.

Senior Member
Nov 24, 2005
13,883
Allegri's strongest suit is his flexibility and that he's tactically not stubborn. I really hope we start believing in our attacking strengths and go with the 4-3-3. This is a do or die period for Allegri, either he sticks to the failing formations or revolutionize the starting 11 and try a new system one month before our UCL game.

The combination he uses for the midfield is important. I see Marchisio-Pjanic-Rincon as the ideal midfield trio. Marchisio and Rincon are both energetic and good with the ball and can support the somehow lazy Pjanic. Khedira is good with the ball but very slow and Sturaro is physically strong but lacks in technique.

Buffon

Alves (Licht) - Bonucci (Barzagli) - Rugani (Chiellini) - Alex Sandro (Asamoah)

Marchisio (Lemina) - Pjanic (Khedira)- Rincon (Sturaro)

Dybala (Cuadrado) - Higuain (Mandzukic) - Pjaca (Sandro/Dybala)​
 

Buy on AliExpress.com
Nov 1, 2002
2,482
it's time to try something different, we don't have the same dominance in midfield.
it would be more logical to try to work on the wings because we have more quality than the center of the pitch

4-3-3 or 4-3-2-1

with Pjaca as left winger and Dybala as false 9
 

DUKAC

Senior Member
Feb 29, 2012
12,286
Fair enough but the problem isnt 'big' games.

I think Allegri sums it up

“Teams play the game of a lifetime against us, such as Fiorentina and Genoa, so we must always have our energy up and give everything, because the opposition do with us."

At the moment it may appear big games, but it took an inter to figure us out and no doubt there will be other teams who will do the same. Question is why, why do we crumble to these teams and evidently away. Well we know the answer already which is weak midfield, they close us down play at 100%. We know our weaknesses but where the hell is our strength? Why are we nowhere near 70%? Why dont we have energy and also the lack of mentality to give everything.
Because we are conserving energy all the time up to now and will continue doing that till the end.Meanwhile we will play like amateurs with 40% of our potential.

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http://www.football-italia.net/96945/allegri-bad-juventus-setback

I didn't like his interview post game very much, it's like he's getting more and more accustomed to losing a game every now and then, soon it will be "no big deal, you can't win them all". When we lost to Genoa or SuperCoppa to Milan he was $#@!ing angry and you could see that losing a game is not acceptable, that playing the way we did is not acceptable. Now he's just like "they were more hungry than us, everyone plays very hard against us, we must try harder and give it everything, bla bla bla". I hope he's doing his best to let the players know that this is not acceptable and being mr nice guy only on tv
As I said previously his Milan days and that same explanations before he was sucked are coming.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
Juventino★★★;5442569 said:
it's time to try something different, we don't have the same dominance in midfield.
it would be more logical to try to work on the wings because we have more quality than the center of the pitch

4-3-3 or 4-3-2-1

with Pjaca as left winger and Dybala as false 9
The chrsitmas tree is where we should aim. Pjaca Higuain Dybala should be tested. I dont know how much more games we wil endure in our current set up.

Allegri is risking his job if the coming 2 months are on the same line of yesterday´s game.


Sturaro-Marchisio-Rincon

------Dybala------Pjaca---

-----------Higuain---------

or 4312 with Pjanic behind Dybala-Higuain

And see how it goes.

I think those 3 midfielders is the most defensive and working line we can field right now, because if we will be playing with the bulk of our game forward..we need those 3 to at least run their hearts out and get the ball to our attackers or Pjanic.

Allegri, fuking wake up.
 
Nov 1, 2002
2,482
more like...

---------------Buffon--------------
Licht----Barz------Bon-----Sandro
--------Khed------March----------
--------------Pjanic ---------------
--------Dyb-----------------------
------------------------------Pjaca
----------------Higuain------------
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Its Khedira-Marchisio-Rincon with Pjanic, Dybala and Higuain upfront
:tup:

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'We dont even know our current best 11"

Bitches please :

-----------------Buffon

Sandro - Chiellini - Rugani - Licht

----Khedira - Marchisio - Rincon

---------------Pjanic

--------Dybala----Higuain

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defence is mirrored cause i'm tired af and too lazy to edit it
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,175
Oh God, this isn't even a maybe. We would get destroyed :lol:
Napoli would probably put 2 or 3 past us easily at the Sao Paolo, if we bring that same attitude or lack thereof. However, I think they would still adopt a cautious approach against us, so as not to risk losing it all. I've already marked the away games against Roma and Napoli as losses, but that isn't a big deal. The important thing is to make sure we take care of Lazio, Milan, and Inter at home, and the title is as good as ours, provided we dispatch the small fry.
 

IliveForJuve

Burn this club
Jan 17, 2011
18,929
:tup:

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'We dont even know our current best 11"

Bitches please :

-----------------Buffon

Sandro - Chiellini - Rugani - Licht

----Khedira - Marchisio - Rincon

---------------Pjanic

--------Dybala----Higuain

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defence is mirrored cause i'm tired af and too lazy to edit it
If only Allegri would field that :tuttosport:
 

JuveE46

Senior Member
Dec 6, 2015
1,595
Besides lack of motivation, the team suffocating creatively is almost completely Allegris fault. The guy just doesnt have enough courage to risk making major changes in personnel or style of play. He basically has been riding the team that Conte built, WHILE HE HAD THE PLAYERS to do it with, and now it's falling apart because he is out of ideas and also has no players to carry his blunt philosophy..3-5-2 with no midfield to do it with? WTF? Funny thing is you can almost close your eyes and pick any other system and it is almost certain to do as good or better than this pointless 352 with same players... that is how stale our play has become..I for one feel the need for bonucci as CDM or we can kiss the CL goodbye very early..That hole in the midfield will not hold..

Higui-------------dybi
-----------cuad
March----------sturaro
------------bonnuc
Sandro-cheil-barz-sturaro
 

zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
51,816
Besides lack of motivation, the team suffocating creatively is almost completely Allegris fault. The guy just doesnt have enough courage to risk making major changes in personnel or style of play. He basically has been riding the team that Conte built, WHILE HE HAD THE PLAYERS to do it with, and now it's falling apart because he is out of ideas and also has no players to carry his blunt philosophy..3-5-2 with no midfield to do it with? WTF? Funny thing is you can almost close your eyes and pick any other system and it is almost certain to do as good or better than this pointless 352, that is how stale our play has become..I for one feel the need for bonucci as CDM or we can miss the CL goodbye very early.

Higui-------------dybi
-----------cuad
March----------sturaro
------------bonnuc
Sandro-cheil-barz-stu
Thats terrible lmao
 

JuveE46

Senior Member
Dec 6, 2015
1,595
Thats terrible lmao
Hehehehe. Yeah No. With that SN you got I will consider your opinion on attacking play only

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what's that? a 4-3-1-2 with 2 sturaro's, bonucci as a cm, and cuadrado as a tq? whoa
Yes 2 sturaro, 3 marchisios..And no, bonnuci will be the head chef responsible for snacks and drinks during halftime.
 

LiquidPLP

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2012
12,237
Lots of things to fix for the man but he has to stop starting players based on reputation. It's inexcusable to bench Rugani for ill and out of form Chiellini. Same goes for Barzagli who isn't better than Rugani right now even though he wasn't half as bad as Chiellini was. Rugani and Bonucci should be starters because of the age (partly) and because of the fact they aren't as injury prone. Chiellini and Barzagli are plagued with injuries which hurts their form but also most probably their ability to continue playing regularly on this level. Both are perfect rotation players though.

In the midfield Sturaro has to be benched hard. No reason for him to be ahead of Rincon and hopefully it's a change that will materialize shortly.

I can understand Allegri's willingness to play 4312 but he shouldn't absolutely dispose an idea of playing 433-like formation where he can utilize Pjaca and/or Cuadrado. Both are hardwoking wingers who can offer us a lot going forward if they are given chances.

Oh, and Pjanic has to play regardless of formation.

Another thing to fix is motivation of the team. If he can't motivate the team then maybe the management will have to think of changing the coach at the end of the season. Without motivation, no team is going to win anything. It's on Allegri's shoulders to find ways to fix this issue as well.
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,382
Lots of things to fix for the man but he has to stop starting players based on reputation. It's inexcusable to bench Rugani for ill and out of form Chiellini. Same goes for Barzagli who isn't better than Rugani right now even though he wasn't half as bad as Chiellini was. Rugani and Bonucci should be starters because of the age (partly) and because of the fact they aren't as injury prone. Chiellini and Barzagli are plagued with injuries which hurts their form but also most probably their ability to continue playing regularly on this level. Both are perfect rotation players though.

In the midfield Sturaro has to be benched hard. No reason for him to be ahead of Rincon and hopefully it's a change that will materialize shortly.

I can understand Allegri's willingness to play 4312 but he shouldn't absolutely dispose an idea of playing 433-like formation where he can utilize Pjaca and/or Cuadrado. Both are hardwoking wingers who can offer us a lot going forward if they are given chances.

Oh, and Pjanic has to play regardless of formation.

Another thing to fix is motivation of the team. If he can't motivate the team then maybe the management will have to think of changing the coach at the end of the season. Without motivation, no team is going to win anything. It's on Allegri's shoulders to find ways to fix this issue as well.
In other words

Buffon
Lichtsteiner Bonucci Rugani Alex Sandro
Rincon Pjanic Marchisio
Cuadrado Higuain Pjaca​
 

LiquidPLP

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2012
12,237
In other words

Buffon
Lichtsteiner Bonucci Rugani Alex Sandro
Rincon Pjanic Marchisio
Cuadrado Higuain Pjaca​
Not really a starting line up because it lacks Dybala but it could be very useful. I'd exchange Pjanic with Marchisio. Rincon and Marchisio to hold the midfield together and Pjanic allowed to move forward, because that's where he's useful.
 

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