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kao_ray

Senior Member
Feb 28, 2014
6,568
I think the management will give him a little bit more time. I have lost my faith in him, but perhaps this is the right thing to do. He is actually a manager that has won 2 serie A with 2 different teams. This is quite something.

My expectations are that he will stay for the next two games no matter what and if we lose them or don't win any of them, he'll be gone. Perhaps our management already are negotiating with someone like Spalleti, Montela, Prandelli...

If we get Mazzari though :sergio:

Allegri, I have lost my faith in you, but please prove me wrong and win us a treble this year, pretty please. :flag1:
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
35,076
Really if his replacements are the likes of Prandelli,it's better to stick with Allegri.
But what a mess this guy has created.Its Milan all over again, now we can say this without any doubts.
But only difference being this is a much much better squad.
I hope people realize the value of Conte now and not just bash him for his European record where he had just one failed season.We play shit football consistently and grinded out results and people were bitching about that too.
This direction-less Juve on the other hand has completely forgotten how to win.

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Salvo

J
Moderator
Dec 17, 2007
62,842
Really if his replacements are the likes of Prandelli,it's better to stick with Allegri.
But what a mess this guy has created.Its Milan all over again, now we can say this without any doubts.
But only difference being this is a much much better squad.
I hope people realize the value of Conte now and not just bash him for his European record where he had just one failed season.We play shit football consistently and grinded out results and people were bitching about that too.
This direction-less Juve on the other hand has completely forgotten how to win.

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Also he has been fucked around my sales and purchases.
 

Scottish

Zebrastreifenpferd
Mar 13, 2011
10,287
Then sacking Allegri wont do much even if get Mourinho as replacement.

No coach can win without a functioning midfield. No midfield functions without a distributor. After sorting this out then you can begin to address the attack. I find it hard to scapegoat the attack when they are getting nothing from the midfield.
The problem is clearly the midfield. No wonder-we've had a shocker with injuries. Is it any real surprise that the single game we had our best midfield of Claudio, Pogba and Khedira we looked great again?
 

DUKAC

Senior Member
Feb 29, 2012
12,290
Then sacking Allegri wont do much even if get Mourinho as replacement.

No coach can win without a functioning midfield. No midfield functions without a distributor. After sorting this out then you can begin to address the attack. I find it hard to scapegoat the attack when they are getting nothing from the midfield.
I already stated that before.And Alegri will be Beppe's scapegoat..
Fully agree on the rest of your post.

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Really if his replacements are the likes of Prandelli,it's better to stick with Allegri.
But what a mess this guy has created.Its Milan all over again, now we can say this without any doubts.
In particular his second .
I hope people realize the value of Conte now and not just bash him for his European record where he had just one failed season.We play $#@! football consistently and grinded out results and people were bitching about that too.
This direction-less Juve on the other hand has completely forgotten how to win.

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His second season.This is the copy of his second Milan season ,now performing with us.Already seen. And game by game he will do worse and more clueless.
Agreed also the rest of the post.
 

Mike-e-y

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2004
11,188
I'm glad we're in ritiro, although it's too little too late. This pathetic team should have been locked down weeks ago after the chievo game.

We're not going to see the back of Allegri though, I just hope he's seeing that he's not given the team an identity or a game plan. Not sure if he got lucky last year when he stumbled on to our amazing team with a fierce winning mentality and desire to progress in Europe. I can't believe only 6 months ago we were formidable, now we're a laughing stock
 

DUKAC

Senior Member
Feb 29, 2012
12,290
Team will be in "ritiro" till Sunday, all together, we need to stick together and get out of this situation, no excuses

Allegri's words.
DelNeri words.

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only things that needs to get out is allegri, this team has a defeatist mentality, beyond injuries and the rest, we just look ripe for the taking. After some reflection, i actually dont like the idea of holding onto allegri just coz there is no one better available right now. If this season is a wash, get an interim guy and plan for next year.

Marotta should be fired as well.

:tup:
 
Apr 29, 2006
3,158
There are no better coaches atm. We need to stick with EuroMAX and judge him in the end of the year. Perhaps it would be much clearer where the fault lies then, especially after the winter market.

I didn't like hiring him, but you have to give him credit for last year. People here tend to be too trigger happy, but forget we ain't a team with an oily checkbook and even those are boasting Pellegrini and Blanc - hardly an upgrade. Imagine those coaches given Hernanes as THE trequartista!
 

Salvo

J
Moderator
Dec 17, 2007
62,842
He said we can't give away fouls like that so often, have to be smarter and not so anxious. He also said that he didn't want to change formation or the team too much but he had to. Khedira played 3 or 4 games in a row after coming back from injury. Marchisio was sick. Padoin needed a bit of rest after starting against Atalanta, licht and caceres out. So he had to change to a back 3. He knows its not good for a young team to always change, or any team for that matter. But he said more than all that our attitude was wrong and that needs to change.
 

Amer

Senior Member
Feb 13, 2005
11,338
He said we can't give away fouls like that so often, have to be smarter and not so anxious. He also said that he didn't want to change formation or the team too much but he had to. Khedira played 3 or 4 games in a row after coming back from injury. Marchisio was sick. Padoin needed a bit of rest after starting against Atalanta, licht and caceres out. So he had to change to a back 3. He knows its not good for a young team to always change, or any team for that matter. But he said more than all that our attitude was wrong and that needs to change.
Excuses are all we hear from him.

The fact is we've been clueless in 3 of our last 4 matches and didn't look like a team which fights for trophies.

It's curious the management had balls to change the team so much, but acts like bunch of pussies when they need to fix the obvious problem right now - the coach.

We simply need fresh ideas and perspective, so that we don't miss on that 3rd spot in Serie A. Let's be frank - Scudetto is lost, Roma will never drop 11 points advantage.

Ancelotti, Montella... There you have excellent coaches... So the excuse "there aren't any better coaches out there" can't stand right now.
 

baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
Now my negative feelings towards allegri from the moment we hired him seems somewhat justified right now
Allegris the scapegoat here. And I think most reasonable people will see it. If he got what he wanted and we were where we are, I would be the first to want this guy to GTFO. Fact is, he's taking the fall for a shit mercato and while his choices in this time are definitely debatable, I'd blame him more for not standing up to the management for the personnel he wanted rather than accepting a situation that was created when it really shouldn't have. You can't implement your ideas effectively enough when you have so many new players on the roster, have lost key men to injury and are working for a board that have no clear ideas of their own. Allegri is a good coach when things are optimised for him. Unfortunately, we haven't played to his strengths and as a result he's going to be the first to go. Even though he is not the root cause of this mess.

Team will be in "ritiro" till Sunday, all together, we need to stick together and get out of this situation, no excuses

Allegri's words.
Good luck, but this situation is a psychological one, and such seasons seldom turn around. The coach and players have lost faith in each other and it's really hard to instill a winning spirit in a team with no mentality and identity, and it gets even harder when there are so many new faces and a fuck all preseason to boot. I said it at the start of the season and I'll say it again, the best we can hope for is 3rd place, but unfortunately that's ever more unlikely because the top three teams in Italy have distinct identities and coaches and management's working in perfect tandem.
 

Raz

Senior Member
Nov 20, 2005
12,218
Good luck, but this situation is a psychological one, and such seasons seldom turn around. The coach and players have lost faith in each other and it's really hard to instill a winning spirit in a team with no mentality and identity, and it gets even harder when there are so many new faces and a fuck all preseason to boot. I said it at the start of the season and I'll say it again, the best we can hope for is 3rd place, but unfortunately that's ever more unlikely because the top three teams in Italy have distinct identities and coaches and management's working in perfect tandem.
That's a bit of overreaction? :D
 

baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
That's a bit of overreaction? :D
No, I honestly believe that Sarri has given Napoli a distinct identity and playing style. Same with Mancini at Inter, and Garcia at Roma. All of them have clear ideas and its showing when they take to the pitch. Inter maybe to a lesser degree, but their mercato had clear intent and didn't seem all over the place. Right now though, I am thoroughly enjoying Sarris work at Napoli. He is genuinely remind me of Lippi.
 

Juve-Boner

Junior Member
May 6, 2012
128
So much cancer in here, its crazy. The players are under performing big time, and that is the problem right now, not the fucking tactics. It doesn't matter if we play 3-5-2/4-3-3 etc. if the players cant even fucking string 3 passes together. I have no doubt we will turn this around, We have a great squad, and a great manager, its just a matter of time when the guys find the confidence to dominate the opponents, like we have been used too for the last 4 years. come May you will all be sucking Euromaxxx`s dick again
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,620
Wasn't hernanes a decent regista for Lazio for years? Why is Lemina starting ahead of him in that role? If anyone has watched him closely in the lazio days what do you think of him as regista?
 

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