Massimiliano Allegri (241 Viewers)

[ALC]

But we're not a top club... maybe in Italy but in Europe? definitely not

Just answer the question. Stop making retarded statements with no proof whatsoever behind them.

 

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[Khunglongkhelua]

We conceded unlucky with Udinese,now is the same with Chievo.Meanwhile in that two games we managed to score once from a penalty.Why for example we didn't score 3 goals up to the 15 minute of the game and then to concede an unlucky goal?It's $#@!ing Chievo not a lethal mixture of Barca/Real/Bayern.

Our teams mentality is not strong enough to come back and win, the players are showing lack of confidence. Besides, the team is in losing trend so it is even more difficult to win while conceding unlucky goals early in a match. Juve tradition is alway winning more than losing, yet it takes time for new players to get used to that. We have no veteran players playing up front to gel all these new/young members together. Pogba is capable in doing that, yet he has not played with his true potential so far.

 

[Emmet]

Are the rumours true that Marotta didn't go to Allegri first before bringing in all those players this Summer?

What rumours?

 

[MikeM]

Lol now we are settling for a top 3 finish. Mercato, preseason were disastrous and someone should be fired if we end up with no title.
You cant ruin a CL finalist and be satisfied with a CL spot.

Well you can't fire someone every time you don't win the scudetto can you?

 

[Hust]

Badass banned?

 

[B3N]

not easy, but a 5-6 winning streak and we're back in it. Don't mean for it to happen right away looking at our matches, maybe look to scrap through group stages and hold inter and napoli away in coming up congested schedule then go on a streak before the winter break.

At the moment, team doesn't lack motivation but leadership, once it's become a problem with former, as it has happened to Max before, and I think it'll be over for him.

 

[Ocelot]

Then I disagree on saying this squad should make top 3, the way I see it, we have the potential to make 4th or 5th, that's how much Marotta destroyed this summer.

What?

Well, we're not gonna get to any agreement here at all.

But seriously, that's a hyperbole here.

 

[Cheesio]

Well you can't fire someone every time you don't win the scudetto can you?

No you don't, but you do when turn a 4 times scudetto winner and a CL finalist team to a team wich will struggle to make the CL this season. You don't say at the start of the season that we are fine and now you change your tune and say that it's normal that we will struggle after losing vital players, guess what you were the one that released them. It only shows that you had no plan and no long term vision.

 

[DUKAC]

No you don't, but you do when turn a 4 times scudetto winner and a CL finalist team to a team wich will struggle to make the CL this season. You don't say at the start of the season that we are fine and now you change your tune and say that it's normal that we will struggle after losing vital players, guess what you were the one that released them. It only shows that you had no plan and no long term vision.

True every word.

 

[swag]

No you don't, but you do when turn a 4 times scudetto winner and a CL finalist team to a team wich will struggle to make the CL this season. You don't say at the start of the season that we are fine and now you change your tune and say that it's normal that we will struggle after losing vital players, guess what you were the one that released them. It only shows that you had no plan and no long term vision.

Wow. Three matches and the season is over already.

Come back next August, everybody.

 

[Inglip]

No you don't, but you do when turn a 4 times scudetto winner and a CL finalist team to a team wich will struggle to make the CL this season. You don't say at the start of the season that we are fine and now you change your tune and say that it's normal that we will struggle after losing vital players, guess what you were the one that released them. It only shows that you had no plan and no long term vision.

So you are saying that Allegri released those players?

 

[Kidtaf]

Allegri came in and had a team that has been working with each other for 4 years. Juve needed a " Yes " man to come in and he did. Allegri had a core of players who are champions and all he did was make sure they used the same tactics and movements to make a smooth transition from the coaching position. He adapted a bit and gave certain players new roles and freedoms and it worked but now that the team lost that core of players and he is trying to implement his own tactics and movements, its utter chaos. Pogba doing a step over each touch, no pressure in the Midfield area ( due to lack of enforcer and tactics ) no play maker to distribute the play ( again lack of tactic and player ). This is now signs of Allegris team. This team lacks vision, grit, determination, confidence and an idea. The horrible mercato and Allegris methods is going to be the downfall this year. By the time this team gets an idea of how to play with these new set of ideas, it'll be far too late in the scudetto race. Lets say this team had Marchisio fit, the only player on the injured list who can make a difference in this team as Asamoah isnt fundamental and Khedira will most likely never be, the team would still be in the same position. Juve lost too much and Allegri is implementing his mentality, which is perfectly fine because he is a coach with his own ideas , but they're not looking up to Juves standards, just look at the the way the players are fielded and the way they are completely clueless out there. Juve obviously needs to be re-built but Allegri is not the coach that should be carrying it out.

 

[Hust]

Wow. Three matches and the season is over already.

Come back next August, everybody.

It's amazing, isn't it? Sorta like I should probably cancel my BEINSports package because its pointless to watch any other games. We know from this thread we won't win anything. We know from the Serie A thread that Inter will be the champions.

See you next summer, Greg.

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No you don't, but you do when turn a 4 times scudetto winner and a CL finalist team to a team wich will struggle to make the CL this season. You don't say at the start of the season that we are fine and now you change your tune and say that it's normal that we will struggle after losing vital players, guess what you were the one that released them. It only shows that you had no plan and no long term vision.

We lowered the age of the squad significantly with talented youngsters. I think that is one sign that we do have a long term vision.

 

[DUKAC]

Allegri came in and had a team that has been working with each other for 4 years. Juve needed a " Yes " man to come in and he did. Allegri had a core of players who are champions and all he did was make sure they used the same tactics and movements to make a smooth transition from the coaching position. He adapted a bit and gave certain players new roles and freedoms and it worked but now that the team lost that core of players and he is trying to implement his own tactics and movements, its utter chaos. Pogba doing a step over each touch, no pressure in the Midfield area ( due to lack of enforcer and tactics ) no play maker to distribute the play ( again lack of tactic and player ). This is now signs of Allegris team. This team lacks vision, grit, determination, confidence and an idea. The horrible mercato and Allegris methods is going to be the downfall this year. By the time this team gets an idea of how to play with these new set of ideas, it'll be far too late in the scudetto race. Lets say this team had Marchisio fit, the only player on the injured list who can make a difference in this team as Asamoah isnt fundamental and Khedira will most likely never be, the team would still be in the same position. Juve lost too much and Allegri is implementing his mentality, which is perfectly fine because he is a coach with his own ideas , but they're not looking up to Juves standards, just look at the the way the players are fielded and the way they are completely clueless out there. Juve obviously needs to be re-built but Allegri is not the coach that should be carrying it out.

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[j0ker]

We lowered the age of the squad significantly with talented youngsters. I think that is one sign that we do have a long term vision.

We should have gone the Inter and Milan way.

Keep our players as long as we can, even against their will, doesn't matter if they have motivation anymore or not, just keep them. Age is just a number anyway.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

It's amazing, isn't it? Sorta like I should probably cancel my BEINSports package because its pointless to watch any other games. We know from this thread we won't win anything. We know from the Serie A thread that Inter will be the champions.

See you next summer, Greg.

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We lowered the age of the squad significantly with talented youngsters. I think that is one sign that we do have a long term vision.

More like a necessity than long term vision. It's so obvious that it doesn't even count as a great thing by our management. Any 5 year old knows a 30 some year old will be retiring/not playing his best soon.

Maybe we did have a plan before Vidal left. Mandzukic seemed like a good idea and so does Dybala, one experienced goal scorer and a promising youngster that has the talent to explode. Once he left, however, whatever planned vision we had went to total shit. It's like you take pleasure in defending mistakes we make just for the sake of defending.

Look where we are, two defeats at first two matches at home, never has it happened in our history. It makes me cringe to read the shit Marotta say on interviews and how he goes from saying one thing to another just to fit his agenda and saves his ass from blame.

We all know Allegri is the escapegoat here and will be fired if we continue to lead an unsatisfactory level of performances keeping us further from the top of the table. Although, if we are to believe some of the reports, he didn't even ask for some of the players he's got in our fucked up random mercato. And the one he does, which has been his Trequartista, Hernanes is the best we can give him.

Seriously, just stop. I understand some people here go too far in a complete retard way but so far this has been disastrous from our board.

 

[Hust]

I love Allegri and all but his starting the season with a 352 and padoin as a regista was retarded.


Marotta will share the blame but it's up to Allegri to get the team clicking.

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We should have gone the Inter and Milan way.

Keep our players as long as we can, even against their will, doesn't matter if they have motivation anymore or not, just keep them. Age is just a number anyway.

 

[K.O.]

He needs to get rid of his trequartista obsession. Lippi once said that a great tactician should use the formation that best suits the players at his disposal. Our squad screams for a 4-3-3.

 

[JCK]

I love Allegri and all but his starting the season with a 352 and padoin as a regista was retarded.


Marotta will share the blame but it's up to Allegri to get the team clicking.

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So do you mean that you can provide a coach with whatever you can find around the corner and it is up to him to make results? Is this how it works? Because if that's the case then player prices will be the same all over the world since they all have the same value to their teams. Only coaches decide how teams work. Well reality check, this applies to this only

 

[Hust]

Impossible JCK.

Fussball is only 7 per side.

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He needs to get rid of his trequartista obsession. Lippi once said that a great tactician should use the formation that best suits the players at his disposal. Our squad screams for a 4-3-3.

Our squad has screamed a 433 since Conte's first year.