Massimiliano Allegri (272 Viewers)

[Cheesio]

We have 35 games to finish top 3. Anyone expecting an endless run of scudetto triumphs is quite frankly delusional. This was an obvious transition year and a slow start isn't shocking. I wouldn't care if we didn't win the scudetto if we showed clear progress and showed a clear transition to another possible successful cycle.

If our transition year is a top 3 finish and a decent showing in Europe then it's miles and miles ahead of the traditional Italian rebuilding method which usually involves being terrible for 5 years (Milan, Inter).

It was always going to be difficult to win a 5th in a row without Tevez who was a world class player last year. 30 goals are gone. Multiple clutch performances are gone. And then there is the loss of Vidal on top.

Lol now we are settling for a top 3 finish. Mercato, preseason were disastrous and someone should be fired if we end up with no title.
You cant ruin a CL finalist and be satisfied with a CL spot.

 

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[DUKAC]

I don' see anything wrong with Allergi. We conceded unluckily and from then to the rest all Chievo do is to defense. How is that Allergi should be blamed?

We conceded unlucky with Udinese,now is the same with Chievo.Meanwhile in that two games we managed to score once from a penalty.Why for example we didn't score 3 goals up to the 15 minute of the game and then to concede an unlucky goal?It's fucking Chievo not a lethal mixture of Barca/Real/Bayern.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

A draw against Genoa optimistic.

You just outdo yourself with each new post.

frankly with the way we are performing and knowing how hard genoa can be to beat. Yes i think a draw is an optomistic outlook right now. There is little or no reason to be optimistic of victory not when we look this disjointed and without a game plan. I suppose Allegri will come out with the "Season starts today" all fucking talk i say

 

[DUKAC]

Vucinic was an on and off source of creativity yes and in this respect he is superior to Matri and Quags but as a goal scorer he is inferior to them. Eitherway, all three are far from Juve material. None of them would start at any big team and they wouldn't start for us today and thats whats relevant to the point about Allegri.

Allegri is handed a much better squad on paper than what Conte had to start with and the team is having its worst start in the club's long history. Its not over yet I think we will recover, all I am saying is that this shows how miraculous Conte's first season was. He had a much worse squad with no confidence whatsoever and tons of arrivals that were for the first team.

The Conte haters like to undermine what he achieved when what he did is really impressive for any coach.

This.
When I remember Estigaribia,Krasic ,Amauri ........

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Fucking elia...

 

[DUKAC]

$#@!ing elia...

How can I forget him. And we payed something like above 10 mil back then which wasn't a small amount.I am not sure for the price.

 

[JCK]

Both Marrotta and Allegri get a shitload of criticism already, and both will be crucified here if the season would be to continue in a similar fashion.

It's true that there are some members who choose to only, or almsot exclusively, blame one singular party, but as a whole both are faaaar from untouchable.

I am not talking about criticism but responsibility and blame. If we end up in a disastrous season the entire blame will fall on Allegri and he might get axed for that. As for cricism, I still don't understan why would anyone critcise Allegri, he is in fact the one that has his hands tied.

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Not every coach get what he wants 100% of the time dude. You should know by now running a football club is no different than running a business. Not every decision is going to be a popular one even if it might have been necessary or needed.

There is a difference between not getting 100% of what you want and taking 75% of what you had and replace it with nothing.

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This start to the season and the following hardship will be the true testament of Allegri's qualities as a coach.

But why? Why is it that he is to be tested with sub par resources?

 

[Badass J Elkann]

How can I forget him. And we payed something like above 10 mil back then which wasn't a small amount.I am not sure for the price.

and i don't even think we got the ferrari back off him neither

 

[Ocelot]

I am not talking about criticism but responsibility and blame. If we end up in a disastrous season the entire blame will fall on Allegri and he might get axed for that. As for cricism, I still don't understan why would anyone critcise Allegri, he is in fact the one that has his hands tied.

Blame from who? The fans or internally?

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We have 35 games to finish top 3. Anyone expecting an endless run of scudetto triumphs is quite frankly delusional. This was an obvious transition year and a slow start isn't shocking. I wouldn't care if we didn't win the scudetto if we showed clear progress and showed a clear transition to another possible successful cycle.

Nah, I would care a lot, and so should every fan.

But it'd be acceptable all circumstances considered I guess, if that's what you mean.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

I can imagine some clubs would have sacked allegri by now

 

[Ocelot]

I can imagine some clubs would have sacked allegri by now

Give me one, just one singular example of any coach at a top club that was sacked after only 3 games when he came off a very, very succesful season the year prior.

 

[lgorTudor]

We have 35 games to finish top 3. Anyone expecting an endless run of scudetto triumphs is quite frankly delusional. This was an obvious transition year and a slow start isn't shocking. I wouldn't care if we didn't win the scudetto if we showed clear progress and showed a clear transition to another possible successful cycle.

If our transition year is a top 3 finish and a decent showing in Europe then it's miles and miles ahead of the traditional Italian rebuilding method which usually involves being terrible for 5 years (Milan, Inter).

It was always going to be difficult to win a 5th in a row without Tevez who was a world class player last year. 30 goals are gone. Multiple clutch performances are gone. And then there is the loss of Vidal on top.

Marotta: "The focus on this mercato will be keeping our key players"

Yep, transition year planned from minute 1

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Give me one, just one singular example of any coach at a top club that was sacked after only 3 games when he came off a very, very succesful season the year prior.

But we're not a top club... maybe in Italy but in Europe? definitely not

 

[Ocelot]

But we're not a top club... maybe in Italy but in Europe? definitely not

Besides perhaps some random Palermo level club with a guy like Zamp in charge, you won't find a single one, thank you for proving the complete ineptitude of your posting once more.

 

[JCK]

Blame from who? The fans or internally?

Internally of course.

 

[Ocelot]

Internally of course.

Yeah, in that case you're mostly right.

Although I don't think that he'd get fired were we to end up second, perhaps even third, provided we show progress and everything. And if he doesn't even achieve that, he should be fired imo, not making top 3 with this squad would be a resounding failure.

On the other hand, would you fire Marotta? That would be really shortsighted imo.

 

[DUKAC]

One thing is certain.Allegri was never known as a coach who has the influence in buying /selling players.Simply the management don't bother him about that.
Milan days,Galliani sold Silva/Ibra they don't give a shit what is his view about that.
Here we sold Vidal.I doubt that he was even warned about that.
He doesn't know that Sandro was coming.He clearly stated that in his interview.
He is that type of a coach.He will build his team with the players at his disposal.
He asks for Oskar and get's Hernanes.And it's fine with him.The only thing the he is concerned is to keep his job safe.If they give him good players he will use them otherwise will play with the players he had.
First title under Conte wasn't that we were so strong but Allegri gave us with those suprise results(home defeat against Fiorentina and other bad results) and putting Pato into the game not healed yet.Their team was better than ours ,especially that it was his second season with Milan and we had a new coach and a new team(almost).

 

[Vialli_92]

Are the rumours true that Marotta didn't go to Allegri first before bringing in all those players this Summer?

 

[DUKAC]

Besides perhaps some random Palermo level club with a guy like Zamp in charge, you won't find a single one, thank you for proving the complete ineptitude of your posting once more.

Zamparini might be a freak ,surely he is,but definitely knows how to make money.Not just for Dybala.He get some good money from us .Dybala and especially Amauri(25 mil).

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Are the rumours true that Marotta didn't go to Allegri first before bringing in all those players this Summer?

You judge by yourself.Have in mind his interview about Sandro and his Milan days.I am sure but that's only for myself.

 

[JCK]

Yeah, in that case you're mostly right.

Although I don't think that he'd get fired were we to end up second, perhaps even third, provided we show progress and everything. And if he doesn't even achieve that, he should be fired imo, not making top 3 with this squad would be a resounding failure.

On the other hand, would you fire Marotta? That would be really shortsighted imo.

I disagree with several points here, I don't think he should get fired at all but I see us ending up 4th or 5th which is a total failure for a club like us especially looking at where we came from (and I am not talking about Conte's where we came from, I am talking about a CL finalist). Then I disagree on saying this squad should make top 3, the way I see it, we have the potential to make 4th or 5th, that's how much Marotta destroyed this summer.

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Are the rumours true that Marotta didn't go to Allegri first before bringing in all those players this Summer?

Where did that come from? I won't be one bit surprised if true to be honest.