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Brny44

Senior Member
Aug 24, 2020
2,000
We are 2nd because Spalletti left Napoli.

BTW all their squad is bad now I guess. Coach doesn't matter
Great comparison. Napoli with kvara, osimhen kim and some other mediocre players went to the quarter finals of the champions league, later rhey hire washed up mazzari and look where they got.

The season inter have this year, probably any team with any coach would be behind, but at least there would be progress, players would fight and give anything. There is always the same pattern, every game win or lose.
 

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JuveJay

Senior Signor
Moderator
Mar 6, 2007
74,941
Funny how one season elevates a coach. Guess the season prior it was Pioli and this season it is Inzaghi. This is the usual cyclical nature of Serie A how it used to be, but then at a much higher level of quality. Then Juve dominance happened and people got spoiled.
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,646
Funny how one season elevates a coach. Guess the season prior it was Pioli and this season it is Inzaghi. This is the usual cyclical nature of Serie A how it used to be, but then at a much higher level of quality. Then Juve dominance happened and people got spoiled.
yeah i bet some of these virgins started to follow serie a in 2012

i guess juventus was a failure for 88 years of its existence
 

Brny44

Senior Member
Aug 24, 2020
2,000
Funny how one season elevates a coach. Guess the season prior it was Pioli and this season it is Inzaghi. This is the usual cyclical nature of Serie A how it used to be, but then at a much higher level of quality. Then Juve dominance happened and people got spoiled.
Well, funny is that some of you didnt elevate allegri after 3 years of failure here. You throaters always find something. All of those guys won something in the last few years, allegri didnt, and im not saying that pioli is a good coach.

Dont you understand that we are not looking for dominance? We just want to have fun and enjoy in a good perfrormace with progress and ambition to actualy win some 'deserved' wins, and not 1:0 struggling till last minutes.

Allegri is stubborn old school dinosaur that dont belong in football anymore. and thats why juventus will be his last big club he will ever train.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Great comparison. Napoli with kvara, osimhen kim and some other mediocre players went to the quarter finals of the champions league, later rhey hire washed up mazzari and look where they got.

The season inter have this year, probably any team with any coach would be behind, but at least there would be progress, players would fight and give anything. There is always the same pattern, every game win or lose.
So you’re just blind, deaf, and dumb?

Before our last two matches, we won the previous 5 by a combined score of 18-2.

Same pattern, every game lol

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Funny how one season elevates a coach. Guess the season prior it was Pioli and this season it is Inzaghi. This is the usual cyclical nature of Serie A how it used to be, but then at a much higher level of quality. Then Juve dominance happened and people got spoiled.
The same people now saying how important the coach is, are the ones who said a monkey could have been on the Juve bench and got the same results as Allegri from 2014-2019. Lol
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,646
Allegri who has another year left on his contract, will only coach Juve next season if he’s given an extension preferably on similar wages he is currently earning.

[@tuttosport)
good luck finding an other that is willing to pay him 7m

rumored replacement is motta though, so there's that
 

Mokku

Senior Member
Apr 17, 2019
2,717
Forget about Inter, I just see baby steps in terms of progress in three seasons. We've climbed the table, we rack up more points, more clean sheets, etc. But let me ask if anyone thinks that we could get out of that CL group with Maccabi and Benfica or beat Sevilla and pick up the EL because I don't. We still play putrid football and have no plan B. We are marginally better, but way below expectations for such a highly paid manager.
 

JuveJay

Senior Signor
Moderator
Mar 6, 2007
74,941
Well, funny is that some of you didnt elevate allegri after 3 years of failure here. You throaters always find something. All of those guys won something in the last few years, allegri didnt, and im not saying that pioli is a good coach.

Dont you understand that we are not looking for dominance? We just want to have fun and enjoy in a good perfrormace with progress and ambition to actualy win some 'deserved' wins, and not 1:0 struggling till last minutes.

Allegri is stubborn old school dinosaur that dont belong in football anymore. and thats why juventus will be his last big club he will ever train.
I'm not sure why anyone would elevate a coach after failure, which is why no one did. Allegri had credit in the bank for his previous achievements but it's obvious the second spell is not a success, even with improved results this season.

I actually do want dominance as this is something Juve fans are accustomed to, even if it's not going to be 9 in a row. Otherwise you're basically saying that playing nice football and winning something now and again is more important. That's ok if you're a Roma or Napoli fan I guess. But first things first, we need to win one scudetto and build on that. Allegri could probably get us over the line if he is given long enough but it does seem like too much of a slog to put up with for much longer. We have 19 points more than this stage last season so the improvement in that respect is clear. I know, they were all lucky 1-0 wins hanging on, etc.
 

Juvellino

Senior Member
Mar 19, 2015
7,143
It's sad but the only way forward I could possibly see for us is the super league & new owners

We'll never catch up to the PL, it's impossible and we can barely afford to improve our mediocre as fuck squad at a domestic level either.

Give it 5-10 years We'll be another Porto or Benfica calibre team in the eyes of the rest of the world.
Porto and Benfica sign top talents that are sold for top fees. They are a perfect example of a well run football business. I think in 5-10 years we will be below those teams because we don’t sign young, cheap players and sell them for high fees to reinvest. Young players at Jj get buried on our bench, loaned out or stashed in the Serie C team.
 

Salvo

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Moderator
Dec 17, 2007
62,797
I'm not sure why anyone would elevate a coach after failure, which is why no one did. Allegri had credit in the bank for his previous achievements but it's obvious the second spell is not a success, even with improved results this season.

I actually do want dominance as this is something Juve fans are accustomed to, even if it's not going to be 9 in a row. Otherwise you're basically saying that playing nice football and winning something now and again is more important. That's ok if you're a Roma or Napoli fan I guess. But first things first, we need to win one scudetto and build on that. Allegri could probably get us over the line if he is given long enough but it does seem like too much of a slog to put up with for much longer. We have 19 points more than this stage last season so the improvement in that respect is clear. I know, they were all lucky 1-0 wins hanging on, etc.
We need an identity. Allegri's style is not at all suited to these players even if we have improved. We need to build something, like you mentioned we have improved but I still don't think we know who we are or what we want to be. Allegri is finished as a top coach because unlike his previous spell he hasn't shown a willingness to adapt, that for me is a death-knell for managers.

I know this sound hyperbolic and exaggerated given we have improved this season but really that has all been based on player form as opposed to tactical or idealogical changes in play. I also don't see how Allegri can match up with this new idea we have of bleeding in youngsters in the long term, he will always search for established players as they are perfect for what he wants to do and how he likes to play. It would be a massive mistake to keep him beyond this season. I completely agree that we need to dominate, it is a must for us.

In regards to others comments about not winning the champions league Etc, that may be true but also football is never as simple as most money = winning European trophies but that is looking too far ahead anyway. This season we must secure top 4 and then put in a clear plan for the next 5 years, I fail to see how Allegri could fit into that unless we want to continue with this unconvincing style that we have seen for the last couple of years.


This Inter game was Max in a nutshell, he still thinks that we have the team we once had and that not losing is more important than winning - I think with a confidence based team that we currently have you had to try and win this game and that if you lost well you accept that. The only way we could flip the momentum was a win. I think young inexperienced teams need these types of wins to grow, Allegri was more convinced that not losing will suffice, I disagree.
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
34,905
How would it blow up in my face? They're already one of sixteen.

You are blaming Allegri for not being better than Inter this season? That's what you're saying.

Because I don't think anybody expected us to when the season started. What changed? Explain that to me. Your emotions?

There's no need to "hype" up Inter. They're strong enough as it is. Just because you hate it, doesn't mean it isn't true.

I get that you're emotional about the loss and all. But you're losing the plot and rationality here.
Looks like you've lost the plot here or trying to be a petty troll.

Literally everyone here acknowledges that Inter are the much better side but most here were upset to see us not putting a fight. It is the approach that leaves a lot to be desired.

But you're literally running around here spamming everywhere saying 'Inter one of the best teams in Europe, best defense in Europe and there's nothing much Allegri could do'.

We made them look like prime Barca for sure because our approach sucks be it home fixture or the away fixture. Having 10 men in your own half trying to scrape a point like a typical relegation level team but according to you, that's not on Allegri but down to our squad quality and Inter being one of the 'best teams in Europe'

Take a break pls.
 

Dino_mk

Senior Member
Sep 5, 2007
2,041
The fraud is thinking of Chiesa Vlahovic Yildiz attack. Such a lowlife, instead of developing such ideas first, he thinks about it after every sane supporter asking that trio to play together for months.
 

juve123

Senior Member
Aug 10, 2017
16,651
Allegri will meet with Giuntoli to plan the next steps. Saudi Arabia is on the horizon could be an option again, as it was last summer, and who knows if this time he won't hear the eastern voices, even though everyone in the management at Continassa is extremely happy with the team performance (including him) [@tuttosport)
 

radekas

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Aug 26, 2009
20,138
The fraud is thinking of Chiesa Vlahovic Yildiz attack. Such a lowlife, instead of developing such ideas first, he thinks about it after every sane supporter asking that trio to play together for months.
Not like it matters because Chiesa probably doesn't have more than 60 minutes before he is gassed or gets injured again.
 

Dino_mk

Senior Member
Sep 5, 2007
2,041
Allegri will meet with Giuntoli to plan the next steps. Saudi Arabia is on the horizon could be an option again, as it was last summer, and who knows if this time he won't hear the eastern voices, even though everyone in the management at Continassa is extremely happy with the team performance (including him) [@tuttosport)
Suddenly there are options on the horizon. Such a weak effort to force a extension on his contract.
The fraud is shaken by the Motta rumours.
 

MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
12,834
The fraud is thinking of Chiesa Vlahovic Yildiz attack. Such a lowlife, instead of developing such ideas first, he thinks about it after every sane supporter asking that trio to play together for months.
How will the enlightened football connoisseurs react when Allegri finally gives in to the mouth breathing anti intellectuals
 

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