Massimiliano Allegri (232 Viewers)

[Xperd]

that argument would put coaches like conte or sarri above someone like lippi or ferguson

allegri should have said yes to real and take that job, everyone would be in a better (or at least not worse) position now

Silly post.

Ferguson is an outlier to any generation of coaches. He's the exception to the norm.

Lippi coached JJ in an era where the domestic league was the strongest in the world. He also has won the biggest prize in football.

The next thing you'll do is bring up names like Bob Paisley and Bill Shankly to make a point.

Look at the current era of coaches. All the big names have won multiple domestic leagues in different countries along with European trophies.

Allegro will never be mentioned in the same tier of coaches as Pep, Ancellotti, Mourinho etc. He will always be a tier below them.

 

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[JuveJay]

Yeah most winning coaches actually have longevity in their career. Lippi

Not really.

 

[Strickland]

that argument would put coaches like conte or sarri above someone like lippi or ferguson

allegri should have said yes to real and take that job, everyone would be in a better (or at least not worse) position now

I suspect Real wouldn't be in a better position

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Not really.

there's a 10 year period between Lippi winning CL and WC and being amongst the very elite coaches. For Allegri that's the 5 years he spent at Juve, there's definitely a difference in longevity there.

 

[Post Ironic]

I suspect Real wouldn't be in a better position

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there's a 10 year period between Lippi winning CL and WC and being amongst the very elite coaches. For Allegri that's the 5 years he spent at Juve, there's definitely a difference in longevity there.

Oh please, Allegri won a title in 10-11 and his last in 18-19. That’s 9 years, cupcake.

 

[Strickland]

Oh please, Allegri won a title in 10-11 and his last in 18-19. That’s 9 years, cupcake.

was talking about the coaching elite. by that logic, Lippi won Serie A in 95 and Chinese Super League in 2014, marshmallow.

imo Allegri of Milan was ok, like Spalletti at Roma, Inzaghi at Lazio or Mancini at Inter, good job overall, but there's plenty of guys out there that can do that. what he did with Juve in his first 3 years here was phenomenal though, I wish that guy didn't announce a crusade against Italian football experts to try and prove a point that you can win with the most minimalistic, ugly approach possible.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Cuadrado's pass was perfect, Dusan was perfectly positioned but the goalie deflected the ball throwing Dusan off.

There was a deflection?

 

[s4tch]

I suspect Real wouldn't be in a better position

i wrote that (or at least not worse) part especially for your sake, you're welcome

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Silly post.

you established a silly rule. stop creating these shit criteria so that you don't have to explain yourself

 

[Clamarc]

was talking about the coaching elite. by that logic, Lippi won Serie A in 95 and Chinese Super League in 2014, marshmallow.

imo Allegri of Milan was ok, like Spalletti at Roma, Inzaghi at Lazio or Mancini at Inter, good job overall, but there's plenty of guys out there that can do that. what he did with Juve in his first 3 years here was phenomenal though, I wish that guy didn't announce a crusade against Italian football experts to try and prove a point that you can win with the most minimalistic, ugly approach possible.

Yeah my initial post was about serial winning coaches. Not fluke win like Di Matteo etc.
Allegri was serial winner with Juve. His Milan years we can say he wasn't elite coach yet

 

[DAiDEViL]

He has been raped and humiliated 3 seasons in a row in CL and never won it. His football is cancer to the eyes. Of course he would get shitcanned within a few matches. Their fans actually care about how their team plays on the field and develops game by game.

Your posts are cancer to the eyes.

Why haven't you been shitcanned yet?

 

[Strickland]

i wrote that (or at least not worse) part especially for your sake, you're welcome

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you established a silly rule. stop creating these shit criteria so that you don't have to explain yourself

Real won CL and La Liga last season. This season they're among 2 favorites to win the CL again and will finish 2nd in the league. There's ample space for Allegri to do a lot worse there.

 

[Wings]

There was a deflection?

Yes, it is very hard to see but I honestly believe the goalie had a touch.

 

[Post Ironic]

was talking about the coaching elite. by that logic, Lippi won Serie A in 95 and Chinese Super League in 2014, marshmallow.

imo Allegri of Milan was ok, like Spalletti at Roma, Inzaghi at Lazio or Mancini at Inter, good job overall, but there's plenty of guys out there that can do that. what he did with Juve in his first 3 years here was phenomenal though, I wish that guy didn't announce a crusade against Italian football experts to try and prove a point that you can win with the most minimalistic, ugly approach possible.

Yeah. 95 points, +62 goal differential, domestic double, CL QF injury time loss to the eventual winners. Most goals in a season by a Juve team in ~50 years. His 4th season at Juve was so bad. What a crusade for ugly football.

And huge lol at comparing Allegri ending Inter’s run at the top of Serie A in 10-11 to Lippi winning Chinese league. Now you’re just trolling.

 

[Vlad]

Wrong. I actually only bitch on here because I have other things to do in my own time, and none of my friends in real life are actual Juve supporters (most of them don't even like football).

I thoroughly enjoyed watching Juventus in 2015, 2016, and even 2017. From 2018, it has been a struggle. Also, I know the whole century comment is hyperbole, but at least try to be funny with the banter dude. I have nothing against you as a person, but your deep and profound Failegri infatuation is disconcerting - you're much better than that.

I dont recall a single positive thing you said about any of our teams but it doesnt concern me any more than it should concern you my so called infatuation with Max. I think I expressed my honest view several times about him but you didnt see those I guess.

However, I noticed you bring me up in a lot of posts here recently so I hope you arent my stalker now. You are better than that.

 

[HelterSkelter]

Leaving Allegrisaurus made Dybi happy as well

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[Strickland]

Yeah. 95 points, +62 goal differential, domestic double, CL QF injury time loss to the eventual winners. Most goals in a season by a Juve team in ~50 years. His 4th season at Juve was so bad. What a crusade for ugly football.

And huge lol at comparing Allegri ending Inter’s run at the top of Serie A in 10-11 to Lippi winning Chinese league. Now you’re just trolling.

Well it wasnt as great as the first 3, yeah, stats isnt everything. In CL we barely pushed past Spurs on pure will, then crumbled against Real and then again played ourselves back into the tie. tbh for me it just made it more bitter and confirmed why our approach was the wrong one. That team was more capable than we saw. In the league the result was there, but damn the road was long. The first 3 seasons of Max was magical - the 14/15 CL run, the 25 wins in 26 games in 15/16, the wild January and February in 16/17 and road to Cardiff. The only thing I remember with fondness from 17/18 is how super solid Chiellini-Benatia were and the Bonucci captaining Milan schadenfreude.

As regards to Lippi conversation, read it again without trying to find a weak spot to tackle and to prove you're right. I'm sure you'll understand what I meant then.

 

[Post Ironic]

Well it wasnt as great as the first 3, yeah, stats isnt everything. In CL we barely pushed past Spurs on pure will, then crumbled against Real and then again played ourselves back into the tie. tbh for me it just made it more bitter and confirmed why our approach was the wrong one. That team was more capable than we saw. In the league the result was there, but damn the road was long. The first 3 seasons of Max was magical - the 14/15 CL run, the 25 wins in 26 games in 15/16, the wild January and February in 16/17 and road to Cardiff. The only thing I remember with fondness from 17/18 is how super solid Chiellini-Benatia were and the Bonucci captaining Milan schadenfreude.

As regards to Lippi conversation, read it again without trying to find a weak spot to tackle and to prove you're right. I'm sure you'll understand what I meant then.

What a troll.

 

[Lion]

Well it wasnt as great as the first 3, yeah, stats isnt everything. In CL we barely pushed past Spurs on pure will, then crumbled against Real and then again played ourselves back into the tie. tbh for me it just made it more bitter and confirmed why our approach was the wrong one. That team was more capable than we saw. In the league the result was there, but damn the road was long. The first 3 seasons of Max was magical - the 14/15 CL run, the 25 wins in 26 games in 15/16, the wild January and February in 16/17 and road to Cardiff. The only thing I remember with fondness from 17/18 is how super solid Chiellini-Benatia were and the Bonucci captaining Milan schadenfreude.

As regards to Lippi conversation, read it again without trying to find a weak spot to tackle and to prove you're right. I'm sure you'll understand what I meant then.

lots of members here have been saying it from first time. allegri is a reactionary coach. that doesn't work in CL.

 

[Vlad]

Well it wasnt as great as the first 3, yeah, stats isnt everything. In CL we barely pushed past Spurs on pure will, then crumbled against Real and then again played ourselves back into the tie. tbh for me it just made it more bitter and confirmed why our approach was the wrong one. That team was more capable than we saw. In the league the result was there, but damn the road was long. The first 3 seasons of Max was magical - the 14/15 CL run, the 25 wins in 26 games in 15/16, the wild January and February in 16/17 and road to Cardiff. The only thing I remember with fondness from 17/18 is how super solid Chiellini-Benatia were and the Bonucci captaining Milan schadenfreude.

As regards to Lippi conversation, read it again without trying to find a weak spot to tackle and to prove you're right. I'm sure you'll understand what I meant then.

Until the 2nd game against United in 2018/19 season we played really well. Something broke the team after that defeat and we never looked the same. Marotta was let go at that time as well. Since then we have been in free fall, each season looking worse.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

You know what I respect allegri for the way he's defended this club in these troubled times, don't get me wrong that doesn't mean he's immune to criticism though. He's been given time and resources, this is an under performing side which lacks any really identity and its clear it won't change any time soon.

 

[Ventus]

There's one massive reason why Allegro's name wouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as those aforementioned coaches.

He has never coached outside Italy. Naturally he wouldn't be as highly regarded outside Italy as other big name coaches.

All these big names have coached top teams in top leagues that have a different style and football culture.

He had the chance to establish himself among the elite when Real Madrid offered him the managerial position but probably he was too scared to get the sack and ultimately chose the 'safer' option of remaining in Italy.

It just shows how unambitious he is as a coach and probably why he'll remain a tier 2 coach at best. Only JJ fans will remember him fondly and even that seems to be creating a divisive opinion.

He did pretty well at AC Milan too. Won them the league on the first season, after a 7 year absence. He also somehow made SES and Balotelli look good and took them third when they just sold their only 2 good players. Had he not became a Juve legend, Milan fans would have probably remembered fondly too.

With that said, he's clearly out of date.