Here we go again. Seriously, how much more do you want to keep kicking the can down the road? Last year, the excuses were that he needed a winter mercato to be able to compete. Got the league's leading goalscorer and Zakaria, couldnt do shit. So the goalposts were moved and we were told that he needed a summer mercato + a full preseason to gel the team. He got not one but SEVEN players he wanted. 4 games in and we have shown no semblance of stability or improvement from the last season. Now according to you, he just needs to build up a good string of results against some farmers to win back your confidence? Really? Is this how far you're willing to go? And why weren't Pirlo and Sarri given the same benefit of the doubt? There is no excuse for taking THIS LONG to mould a winning team.
When you take into account that Conte managed to build a league winning squad in just one season, with mid-table level players at his disposal, this Allegri apologist argument just falls flat on its face.
The problem with people like you I have on ignore is I can't take anything you say seriously because I know you and your type were saying these same things when we were winning and playing good football. The 'issue' then was the style of football I was told and I was promised goals and trophies galore just if Allegri leaves and stops 'putting breaks on the team'.
3-5 years later and the same rhetoric continues. Things that were not good then are good now just to spite and shit on Allegri. Trophies and goals that were not important then now are just to spite and shit on Allegri. Every possible discussion, every signing, every injury, every game or comment is diverted back to Allegri. And it's not that he's not being criticized by me also, I've done it plenty and argued with
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@il brutto in this thread last season, but you people are just mad that anyone would have any kind of positive outlook or a sliver of hope for the future. You are mad that someone can have a divided opinion, that someone can be frustrated while also hopeful. That's why this is going to be my first and only reply to you and the like, simply because there's no discussion to be had, no exchange of opinions but only one mantra - every.single.thing.that.happens.is.purely.allegris.fault.and.anything.positive.you.say.about.him.can.and.will.be.taken.against.you.
Seriously, how much more do you want to keep kicking the can down the road?
Kicking the can down the road? What, where? Saying I expect nothing but wins in games that should be wins is kicking the can down the road? Oh yeah, you expect everyone to be ALLEGRIOUT all the time right away.
Last year, the excuses were that he needed a winter mercato to be able to compete. Got the league's leading goalscorer and Zakaria, couldnt do shit.
Not from me. The excuses could be early in the season when Woj dropped us points, but later on I criticized him plenty and wanted better. Games against Verona and Sassuolo were unacceptable. Home against Napoli too. But things improved, we were back in a somewhat title contention until the Inter game which objectively wasn't Allegri's fault.
So the goalposts were moved and we were told that he needed a summer mercato + a full preseason to gel the team.
A normal process every team goes through is moving goalposts? Signing better players, getting injured ones healthy, time to let them get together is abnormal? Oh yeah, I forgot every team is at their best 5 games into the season and that's enough time to give for 7-8 new players to gel out of which only one signing has been completely healthy and played regularly.
Again, you're simply mad that anyone would dare feel there is a silver lining at the end of this.
4 games in and we have shown no semblance of stability or improvement from the last season.
Another trait of you and people like you is the constant need to lie and invent things.
Last season after 5 games - 12th place, 1W 2D 2L, 5pts, 7:8 GD, -11 to first place
Now after 5 games - 5th place, 2W 3D, 9pts, 7:2 GD, -2 to first place
'No improvement'.
And if you're referring to style of play you're barking up the wrong tree. Never cared, could not care less. Give me 2:0 Spezia from this season against 4:3 Roma last season, 4:3 Napoli Sarri season etc.
Now according to you, he just needs to build up a good string of results against some farmers to win back your confidence?
He never lost my confidence. Unlike people like you who were against him from the start because he dared be better than your darlings Conte and Sarri I was never delusional to think this was going to be a quick fix. Yeah I was hoping for a title last season and yeah I'm always going to be optimistic, but I never lost sight of the fact how much work needs to be done to get back to where we were. Nobody wins with shit and right now the available players this is the worst team we've had since before Conte. That is fact. You are only as strong as your best champions and weak as your weakest link. Yeah Rabiot or Sandro maybe are not as bad as Padoin or De Ceglie, but those are not players that make the difference. Vlahović and Chiesa would be the only players that would start for Conte's teams, none of them would start for Allegri's first team here.
And why weren't Pirlo and Sarri given the same benefit of the doubt?
The fact you'd even ask this question and the fact you pretend you don't know the answer and the fact you'd take the answer with snark and belittlement tells everything about your agenda here. Once again MAD Allegri is one of the biggest legends of the club ever and EARNED time and patience. Hey, how come Del Piero gets more time and patience coming back from an injury or a bad stretch of form compared to Palladino? HOW?
There is no excuse for taking THIS LONG to mould a winning team.
This long? Motherfucker it's the start of his second season and you were bitching here before the season started last summer. At least do me a favor and stop pretending you have any logical arguments and care about anything but seeing Allegri's back once again. It's painfully obvious it's not about results or style of play or how long it takes, you are simply mad and agenda-driven. Otherwise you wouldn't belittle Allegri's past achievements while simultaneously using THE SAME achievements by Pirlo and Sarri as an 'argument' against Allegri. Youl wouldn't pretend one season is LONG when there are coaches and teams out there that took far longer than that and you know it.
When you take into account that Conte managed to build a league winning squad in just one season, with mid-table level players at his disposal, this Allegri apologist argument just falls flat on its face.
And here we go, one last for the end. Embodiment of everything from above. Lies, ignorance and just blatant ignoring of all context.
Never mind the fact that Conte's team was the spine of the entire decade of winning, but yeah, 'midtable' players. Unlike you with Allegri I never took anything from Conte. He is one of the founders of the Juventus that won for a decade. I hate him for the end, but never fail to recognize his importance, but you people love nothing but to exaggerate his positives and belittle everything else around it.
When it's time to praise Conte he won with 'midtable' players, but when it's time to belittle Allegri those same 'midtable' players were the BEST team he inherited from Conte.
If Allegri wins I will praise him, if he doesn't I will criticize. You continue being mad not everyone is a toxic ignorant cynic who dares support his team in a different way.
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