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DAiDEViL

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2015
64,651
You wrote dominated. That would constitute far higher percentage of possession on their part. 53% is irrelevant and doesn't tell you anything considering who the better side was. In general possession stat is meaningless. What is important are chances we created, which last night we created in abundance, while allowing very little in return in front of our goal. Verona didn't have a single clear cut chance. Based on the way you writte and pick fights with everyone on this forum, tells me all I need to know, what a sad person you are.
This.

But we won, so obviously he's pissed. Let him be.
 

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Gagi

Senior Member
Jul 19, 2007
8,627
So, it was a 4-3-2-1 after all, playing through the middle. Kinda reminds me of Ancelotti's Chelsea in 2010, with Kalou and Anelka supporting Drogba, going wide when needed, but mostly feeding the target man, playing one-twos and even contributing in defence. We're not as fluid in the build up, and we lack creativity, but with Loca back, that should look better. Exciting stuff.
 

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,322
Our mid is still worrying although it can change if we play both Locatelli and Zakaria together. There was time when Verona dominated and this isnt a thing we should accept on the long run
 

Jäger

Senior Member
May 2, 2021
1,529
Our mid is still worrying although it can change if we play both Locatelli and Zakaria together. There was time when Verona dominated and this isnt a thing we should accept on the long run
Careful now, you're entering dangerous territory. Criticism of such things isn't valid here. Dai, Vlad and PI are policing this thread like the Stasi to ensure no one dares to say anything other than how we displayed a masterful performance. Let's see if they give you the same treatment
 
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Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
Careful now, you're entering dangerous territory. Criticism of such things isn't valid here. Dai, Vlad and PI are policing this thread like the Stasi to see if anyone dares to say anything other than how we displayed a masterful performance. Let's see if they give you the same treatment
imma save PI the trouble and remind you about the clean sheet last night
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
You wrote dominated. That would constitute far higher percentage of possession on their part. 53% is irrelevant and doesn't tell you anything considering who the better side was. In general possession stat is meaningless. What is important are chances we created, which last night we created in abundance, while allowing very little in return in front of our goal. Verona didn't have a single clear cut chance. Based on the way you writte and pick fights with everyone on this forum, tells me all I need to know, what a sad person you are.
He’s not very good at math:

53% equals dominant

Matchday 22 is the halfway point of a 38 game season

Kind of poor at English too:

“Somewhat decent” apparently means the same thing as “good”

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Siamak

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Aug 13, 2013
18,426
In the last 10 rounds, #Allegri's #Juventus collected 24 points (7 wins and 3 draws), actually +4 over #Milan, +6 over #Atalanta and #Lazio, +7 over #Napoli. And is currently now at -4 from Pirlo's #Juve (49) after 24 games.

[Mirko Nicolino]
 

Stevie

..........
Mar 30, 2003
20,795
Everyone knows Allegri's teams douch better second half of the season. I expect us to get better each week minus the odd fuck up due to Injuires or fatigue.
 

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,322
In the last 10 rounds, #Allegri's #Juventus collected 24 points (7 wins and 3 draws), actually +4 over #Milan, +6 over #Atalanta and #Lazio, +7 over #Napoli. And is currently now at -4 from Pirlo's #Juve (49) after 24 games.

[Mirko Nicolino]
How much compared to Inter?
 

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,322
Inter have played one game less than us during that period. They've collected 22 points from those 9 games.
Basically its the same as PI said as I always consider the game in hand as a win unless proven otherwise (of course I wouldnt do the same when asked about a team like Salernitana..)

Anyway I expected that answer as we are not as good as them at the moment although there are signs for a change of attitude from our side so maybe next year..

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No, it wasn't a fantastic performance. It was a decent performance. They dominated us in possession in our own ground (53%), that's already not great. Using the one shot on target stat is also disingenuous and a poor metric to use when deciding whether or not we won comfortably, especially when you take into account that they had 13 shots in total, just 2 less than us.
The reality is that we didn't win comfortably. We were sloppy at times. Am I happy with the performance in general? Of course, I never denied that, as much as the fanboys here like putting words in my mouth. I just don't think it was a flawless performance. Apparently it's too much to ask for improvement, because criticising the manager is considered blasphemy these days. If this was Pirlo or Sarri on the other hand I wouldn't have recieved so much vehement opposition.
Possession means nothing for me as it is what you do with your possession that matters. We definitely deserved to win although we lost too many balls due to their pressure which allowed them have more of the ball.
This is something that we should eventually avoid but we did start the Vlahovic era properly and we are on the improvement curve so Im satisfied for now.
 
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MrMonkey

Senior Member
Jul 15, 2017
4,286
Honestly I don't care who manages Juve but team will get my full support every match! Welcomed Sarri expecting more goals but didn't work out. Loved having Pirlo but realized he was too inexperienced to handle the task. Seeing what Max has dome so far Pirlo results on paper weren't that bad. If not for his subbing decision weakness might have been better.

Yes lost the possession battle yesterday but in reality a shorthanded Verona did very little. If not mistaken enough Juve 60-40 possession matches with no sort of Juve offense to go with it? Too many for my liking. What I hate every match is getting pressed so successfully and constantly getting Tek involved to clear the ball. More bad than good can happen. Max needs to find a way to fix that.

Okay some numbers of late. Only 6 goals conceded last 13 league matches. And 21 goals scored gives you +15 GD. That matches the year to date GD so improvement has been made. I like Max concentrating on what he knows best, defense to get the ship righted. Now with a proven frontman hopefully the offense improves.
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MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
12,834
So, it was a 4-3-2-1 after all, playing through the middle. Kinda reminds me of Ancelotti's Chelsea in 2010, with Kalou and Anelka supporting Drogba, going wide when needed, but mostly feeding the target man, playing one-twos and even contributing in defence. We're not as fluid in the build up, and we lack creativity, but with Loca back, that should look better. Exciting stuff.
I think the 2 could have done better to help Vlahovic. That guy is a fucking monster wrestling CBs super deep, pinning their whole line back. There was tons of space underneath him. I suspect McKennie will take that space quite often though.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,030
Careful now, you're entering dangerous territory. Criticism of such things isn't valid here. Dai, Vlad and PI are policing this thread like the Stasi to ensure no one dares to say anything other than how we displayed a masterful performance. Let's see if they give you the same treatment
Derp :lol:

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Our mid is still worrying although it can change if we play both Locatelli and Zakaria together. There was time when Verona dominated and this isnt a thing we should accept on the long run
Id agree about opening 10 minutes. Our players were still finding their feet. Zakaria especially needed more time to grasp things, but as the match went on he grew and eventually had commanding presence in the middle. But after the initial struggle, we dominated the game in every way. Our build up became more fluid and we were able to bypass Verona's block with relative ease. Every time we crossed half, we were in position to cause problems for them as their gung ho approach left acres of space behind. Possession is indeed meaningless stat otherwise Barca would win CL every season. Last night, not that it matters much, was pretty even 47-53. What your team is capable of when in possession matters far more, the quality of chances they can create, how much they allow and where they allow to opposition, matters. If Verona managed to shoot only 1 time on target and if most of their attacks ended 35-40 meters away from the goal, then I dont see how tf they dominated us. Unless u re sour puss like Jager :lol:
 
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Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,030
Everyone knows Allegri's teams douch better second half of the season. I expect us to get better each week minus the odd fuck up due to Injuires or fatigue.
I may very well expect a mad winning streak until the end of this season. But how fucked up was our start of the season with our best player gone, our 2nd best player Chiesa struggling with fitness, while Locatelli looked like the only mid able to play ball and Woj making one blunder after another. Not many alternatives on the bench back then. Right now I can finally see the light at the end of a tunnel. The team has grew tremendously since.
 
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Gagi

Senior Member
Jul 19, 2007
8,627
I think the 2 could have done better to help Vlahovic. That guy is a fucking monster wrestling CBs super deep, pinning their whole line back. There was tons of space underneath him. I suspect McKennie will take that space quite often though.
Agreed, but they only had like 1-2 training sessions together. We have to give them time to gel. And Vlahovic really is a mad man, hungry and determined to succeed here.
 

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