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Nedved96

Senior Member
Sep 1, 2017
7,198
They contradict their statements all the time, just to support their agenda that Juve plays like $#@!, will never win CL, and Allegri is by far the main reason why.
We do play like shit.

Fans of other teams who watch our games say we play like shit.
Many of our own fans say we play like shit.
The statistics show that we rely on our lethal forwards because play like shit.

Maybe it’s because we actually play like shit.

Teams with worse players than us pass the ball better than we do. The reason we play like shit is because of Allegri.
 

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Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,529
We do play like shit.

Fans of other teams who watch our games say we play like shit.
Many of our own fans say we play like shit.
The statistics show that we rely on our lethal forwards because play like shit.

Maybe it’s because we actually play like shit.

Teams with worse players than us pass the ball better than we do. The reason we play like shit is because of Allegri.
Did we play like shit all three years Allegri has been here? I personally don’t think so. Could the team play “more attractive “ football? Sure, but results matter more and that’s what a Allegri delivers.

You know another great coach whose teams were accused of playing like shit and winning in the last minute with “individual brilllince” goals? Sir Alex Ferguson. But you don’t see people complaining about him and saying teams were playing like shit because of him. Try to put everything together and realize that Allegri is trying to put together a team with players who don’t necessarily complement each other and is still making Juve a contender for every single tournament they’re in.
 

Nedved96

Senior Member
Sep 1, 2017
7,198
Did we play like $#@! all three years Allegri has been here? I personally don’t think so. Could the team play “more attractive “ football? Sure, but results matter more and that’s what a Allegri delivers.
No, I think we played very good football in 2014/15 and 2015/16

But since the start of last season our football has been so poor, at times unwatchable, and there appears no light at the end of the tunnel.

The fact that I have absolutely zero faith in this team to get a result in Madrid, even after the Roma game today, is telling.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Here at it again with this :lol:
It's like they believe Higuain and Dybala are getting the ball at midfield, slaloming a dozen players Messi style, and scoring incredible goals to cap it off.

Reality is, that we get Higuain and Dybala the ball in areas of the pitch that suit them. They aren't scoring 40 yard screamers constantly. 95% of Higuain's goals are within the box, the ball passed or crossed to him in space that works for him. Dybala scores from longer shots more often, but generally because he is given the ball just outside the box with space to work and either pass or shoot.

And Dybala has 1 goal on 33 shots attempted in the CL. But it's Allegri's tactics causing him to have an absolutely appalling 3% conversion rate in CL. :baus:
 

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Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,529
No, I think we played very good football in 2014/15 and 2015/16

But since the start of last season our football has been so poor, at times unwatchable, and there appears no light at the end of the tunnel.

The fact that I have absolutely zero faith in this team to get a result in Madrid, even after the Roma game today, is telling.
Okay, in that case what makes you so certain that Allegri is the problem instead of the constant chopping and dicing of the team?
 

Nedved96

Senior Member
Sep 1, 2017
7,198
Post Ironic,

Dybala and Higuain are absolutely lethal, by far the most lethal forwards in Serie A. This is a statistical fact, you can deny it all you want.

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Okay, in that case what makes you so certain that Allegri is the problem instead of the constant chopping and dicing of the team?
Because teams with worse players than us play better football than we do.

Allegri is very unfortunate to have lost Pogba and Vidal, but Juve is far from the only club who sells there best players. In fact, there’s only like 6 or 7 clubs who don’t sell their best players.

Pjanic, Bentancur, Matuidi and Khedira is not a bad midfield. It’s certainly better than what Liverpool have, for instance.

Allegri did a fantastic job to make us relevant in Europe again, but I think that he’s reached his ceiling here. We need a new manager with fresh ideas.
 

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Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,529
I don’t think they have a better midfield but it suits their style. They definitely have a much more physical midfield. Ours is the complete opposite.
 
May 23, 2013
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I agree with Nedved96 that our 2014-16 teams were performing better and their football was more appealing to the eyes. However that is due to those teams and especially the midfield were much stronger than today’s team. Matuidi, Pjanic, and Khedira especially when in a two man midfield fan in no way he compares to MVPP.

Now of course results are all that matter and the results have been comin in. However it has required a tremendous effort from the likes of Mandzu and Cuadrado along with brilliant coaching from Allegri to paper over the obvious crack (MKP and fullbacks) in this team.

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Liverpool have a better midfield than us. There I said it
Dude just about every top team in football has a better midfield than us it’s ridiculous.
 

campionesidd

Senior Member
Mar 16, 2013
16,816
Nedved96 is clearly trolling. Our forwards were piss poor in the first leg. If they showed any of that individual brilliance he keeps rambling about, we should have won the match.

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How many of those shots were clear cut chances? How many of those shots were hopeful shots from distance because we couldn’t create anything?

The statistics show that Dybala scores more than he theoretically should. You deny it because you are insecure. :disagree:
Stats this, stats that. Stats count for jack shit in football. Go watch basketball or baseball if you’re so obsessed with numbers.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
Oh but the allegri stats for sure count right? (which are very good, just like higuains and dybalas)

Man, this 2 last season have been unbearable. I think we really got spoiled with that 2015 team which reached the final.

We were very balanced and played with conviction without having to go all attack or all defense.

Its a shame our midfield right now is bollocks and the worst of it is that we need to buy so many players to fix areas....

what beppe has been doing this last 2 years? In2 mercatos he fucked up the effort done in the previous years. Bought players like Higuain and pjanic but we are disfunctional as hell and play random football.
 

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