Martin Cáceres (13 Viewers)

[Bianconero81]

I guess it is all about expectations. We always expect Buffon to be a god, and Bonbon has been quite solid over the past two seasons, that we have also come to expect a certain standard from him. However, with Caceres the bar is considerably lower, given the fact he doesn't get as many games/opportunities to prove himself. He isn't a regular/starter, so naturally expectations are lower. Nonetheless, I do agree that his fatal mistake was unforgivable. He gifted Madrid a goal out of nothing. We might have well gone on to win the game had his brain fart not resulted in Madrid grabbing an equalizer that proved to be the impetus for them to wake up and dominate large portions of the 2nd half.

 

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[Klin]

This is exactly why I don't rate him as a defender. He can be such a defensive liability. Really let the team down.

 

[ZoSo]

This is exactly why I don't rate him as a defender. He can be such a defensive liability. Really let the team down.

maybe he cost us a goal, but he also got us one as well with that great cross.

we only have isla instead and he would have cost us 2 goals probably and 0 offensive threat

 

[Klin]

maybe he cost us a goal, but he also got us one as well with that great cross.

we only have isla instead and he would have cost us 2 goals probably and 0 offensive threat

The difference is that he killed the team with that mistake.

 

[ZoSo]

He still made up for it

 

[Klin]

He still made up for it

No he didn't. You can't make such an error against such an opponent and expect to get a 'Free out of jail card' for an assist in a game your team didn't win, especially when a win was badly needed.

 

[JCK]

I totally agree with X, he made so many mistakes but he was playing good otherwise. I don't think anyone described him better than me a few pages ago, he was a real rollercoaster.

 

[Nicholas]

It shows how important Licht is to this team. He's so reliable.

What annoyed me, yes Caceres didn't have anywhere to go but he should of blasted it out for a throwing instead, let the team regroup.

 

[ZoSo]

No he didn't. You can't make such an error against such an opponent and expect to get a 'Free out of jail card' for an assist in a game your team didn't win, especially when a win was badly needed.

Are you suggesting we should've played Isla instead?

 

[Klin]

Are you suggesting we should've played Isla instead?

No, I'm claiming that you can't have a Caceres in your defense if you want a good defense.

 

[ZoSo]

Well we didn't really have any other options

 

[Klin]

I'm not saying otherwise.

 

[Golazo]

He still made up for it

Don't believe. We were winning 1-0 at that stage - totally different ball game. His cross only got us back an equaliser.

If it got us to 3-2, I may have agreed.

 

[j0ker]

In the replay it looked like conte told him to pass the ball back. Can anyone confirm this?

I haven't seen it but my friend told me the same, even if it's true still he should have done a lot better.

 

[Linebreak]

i disagree, he made a few other mistakes, his grinta is good only if it comes without fatal mistakes, had buffon or bonucci made a similar mistake despite having solid games we wouldnt hear the end of it

The difference is someone like Bonucci would have allowed Ronaldo 16 shots on goal. This guy contained Ronaldo for most of the match.

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The difference is that he killed the team with that mistake.

Any player can make a mistake, great teams are able to come over them and soldier on.

 

[JuveJay]

It shows how important Licht is to this team. He's so reliable.

What annoyed me, yes Caceres didn't have anywhere to go but he should of blasted it out for a throwing instead, let the team regroup.

You can put some of his mistake down to our insistence to always play the ball from the back. At times it is frankly ridiculous. Look at goal kicks. Teams know we play it short and the ball has to leave the penalty area so we stand just outside the edge of the penalty area, they press us and then we have to hurry it back to Buffon who has to make a rushed kick which goes nowhere. Clearly that is muuuuch better than just playing a normal goal kick off the ground....especially with Llorente up front.

Our guys in defense need to be smarter, and that includes Buffon. When the time calls for it you just get the ball up the pitch or line.

 

[Linebreak]

It shows how important Licht is to this team. He's so reliable.

What annoyed me, yes Caceres didn't have anywhere to go but he should of blasted it out for a throwing instead, let the team regroup.

He's great but even he has his weaknesses, have you seen him cross?

 

[Golazo]

You can put some of his mistake down to our insistence to always play the ball from the back. At times it is frankly ridiculous. Look at goal kicks. Teams know we play it short and the ball has to leave the penalty area so we stand just outside the edge of the penalty area, they press us and then we have to hurry it back to Buffon who has to make a rushed kick which goes nowhere. Clearly that is muuuuch better than just playing a normal goal kick off the ground....especially with Llorente up front.

Our guys in defense need to be smarter, and that includes Buffon. When the time calls for it you just get the ball up the pitch or line.

That's coaching. We've been instructed to play the ball from the back and utilise short goal kicks (and corners).

If Conte had a problem with it, it would have stopped by now. Hasn't, so it's obviously a manager/coach idea.

 

[Cuti]

While Caceres provided 2 assists over the 2 games, he had a big hand in 3 of the goals conceded! I like Martin, but in these two games we really missed Lichtsteiner

 

[juventino899]

He had a great game till he made that mistake..it changed the game completely, whether he gave an assist or not is irrelevant. That goal changed the game