Manuel Locatelli - DM - Sassuolo (10 Viewers)

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Jun 6, 2015
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About Thiago being an AM, or Locatelli being a DM. To show with stats
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See the clear difference in profile with proper attacking midfielders like Eriksen (in Spurs) and Bruno fernandes.

Thiago's numbers are better than Locatelli's but the profile is similar of the first two players, and the last two. The AMs completely slack in defense, make 30 passes less per game, but create twice as many chances and many more assists.
Thiago is more similar to Verratti or even Arthur. Dribbling is one of his main assets. Locatelli is much more similar to the likes of Thiago Motta and Busquets. I really fail to see many similarities between Thiago and Locatelli.
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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What do we do with Arthur if we get this guy
he's more of a rabiot alternative for me, but with more physical presence and above all, consistency.

top form rabiot would be a good asset to have. too bad we only see in-form rabiot twice a season.

arthur, locatelli and a forward playing guy (goncalves, aouar) would be a good step forward. also, pirlo would need to get this hybrid 4-4-2 nonsense out of his head first, and start playing 3 cm's as cm's.
 

GordoDeCentral

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he's more of a rabiot alternative for me, but with more physical presence and above all, consistency.

top form rabiot would be a good asset to have. too bad we only see in-form rabiot twice a season.

arthur, locatelli and a forward playing guy (goncalves, aouar) would be a good step forward. also, pirlo would need to get this hybrid 4-4-2 nonsense out of his head first, and start playing 3 cm's as cm's.
The times i have seen locatelli he was playing as a regista, but i trust your judgement.
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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The times i have seen locatelli he was playing as a regista, but i trust your judgement.
I see him as a register too. We need a b2b with an engine to his left and Murica to his right.


We need 2 starting CMs plus replacements for whatever CM we sell lol

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What do we do with Arthur if we get this guy
plusvalenza or bench if he is ok with the competition

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Last season data
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Requoting b/c these stats are insane...lol its like he is on another planet according to these :grin:
 

s4tch

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The times i have seen locatelli he was playing as a regista, but i trust your judgement.
yeah, he plays as a regista, but these two guys have similar characteristics. for me, locatelli is a more reliable rabiot, so the regista position suits him a bit better than rabiot, but i'd try him as a mezz'ala.

i also get what you're saying: he also looks like a natural arthur replacement in our current system. in that case, we could move arthur to the mezz'ala position, the one he played at barcelona, but his complete lack of forward passing doesn't really suit him that well.

for me, arthur and locatelli could play in the middle. either way, we would need an attacking minded mid too. for me, locatelli and rabiot would be redundant.
 

X Æ A-12

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Arthur should be playing further forward anyway. He's a defensive liability at regista.
I agree though I'm not sure he is ideal in that sense either. He is tidy but I haven't seen much evidence of finishing ability or penetrating runs. Maybe if this were tiki taka esque team he would fit in better

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Requoting b/c these stats are insane...lol its like he is on another planet according to these :grin:
Its almost like being Italian doesn't automatically mean he's trash/ overrated.
 

Juliano13

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May 6, 2012
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We need to get that forward playing midfielder (and a left winger) first, then think about Locatelli (or whoever would replace one of the center mids).
The funny thing is that Ramsey should have been able to fill that role. For example, Arthur-Locatelli-Ramsey should be his best role but he has been very disappointing even without the constant injuries.
 
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He is ok, but nothing special.
If your goal is to reach the QF in the CL, than he might be the right player. But if you want to win the CL, than this won´t happen with players like Locatellis, Bentancurs, Ramseys.....
 

Bjerknes

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I assume Locatelli takes over deepest lying midfielder and Arthur plays LCM. Then again its hard to know what to expect of next season.
The problem with that is Arthur isn't much of a threat in terms of putting in through balls or shooting from distance, so we're basically wasting a position on someone who keeps possession. If it's Loca and Arthur playing, then Mckennie might have to play as well to make runs into the box from midfield. Rabiot would probably still be a better option for LCM.

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If your goal is to reach the QF in the CL, than he might be the right player..
At this point, that would be our goal, so...
 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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yeah, he plays as a regista, but these two guys have similar characteristics. for me, locatelli is a more reliable rabiot, so the regista position suits him a bit better than rabiot, but i'd try him as a mezz'ala.

i also get what you're saying: he also looks like a natural arthur replacement in our current system. in that case, we could move arthur to the mezz'ala position, the one he played at barcelona, but his complete lack of forward passing doesn't really suit him that well.

for me, arthur and locatelli could play in the middle. either way, we would need an attacking minded mid too. for me, locatelli and rabiot would be redundant.
I feel like arthur is good at short passes but sucks at long ones, so the closer to the goal he is, the more effective his passes would be. But I don't know really how he was at barca
 

Bjerknes

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I feel like arthur is good at short passes but sucks at long ones, so the closer to the goal he is, the more effective his passes would be. But I don't know really how he was at barca
Personally, I think keeping possession and making passes in the middle of the pitch is much different than around the opposition's box. You need more of a killer instinct, and I haven't seen Arthur provide that, like ever.
 

zizinho

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Personally, I think keeping possession and making passes in the middle of the pitch is much different than around the opposition's box. You need more of a killer instinct, and I haven't seen Arthur provide that, like ever.
I don't know much of the guy I admit, only seen him here and even then missed a lot of games he was part of this season. Was just a thought I had, since a lot claim he's played closer to the goal at barca
 

juve123

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He is ok, but nothing special.
If your goal is to reach the QF in the CL, than he might be the right player. But if you want to win the CL, than this won´t happen with players like Locatellis, Bentancurs, Ramseys.....
He is the best available option for us right now along with Rodrigo de paul
 

Bjerknes

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I don't know much of the guy I admit, only seen him here and even then missed a lot of games he was part of this season. Was just a thought I had, since a lot claim he's played closer to the goal at barca
He played as an RCM or LCM in the Barca 3 midfield when I saw him. He was probably more like Iniesta except that he wasn't as incisive around the box from what I saw. Iniesta would go inside or outside, even take it to the end line if needs be, while Arthur would be more of a player to cycle the ball back if he was in those areas.
 

GordoDeCentral

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yeah, he plays as a regista, but these two guys have similar characteristics. for me, locatelli is a more reliable rabiot, so the regista position suits him a bit better than rabiot, but i'd try him as a mezz'ala.

i also get what you're saying: he also looks like a natural arthur replacement in our current system. in that case, we could move arthur to the mezz'ala position, the one he played at barcelona, but his complete lack of forward passing doesn't really suit him that well.

for me, arthur and locatelli could play in the middle. either way, we would need an attacking minded mid too. for me, locatelli and rabiot would be redundant.
Agree with bolded 100% that's why I questioned the move
 
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