Mafia 2020 - Find the carrier (7 Viewers)

[Quetzalcoatl]

Lol did they happen to recruit you Matt?

Why recruited, are you implying you think I was C before?

Anyway who would the Gs favourite candidate to recruit to their team? Who's the most experienced player here with the reputation as one of the best mafia players on Tuz?

 

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[Osman]

I want you to be less passive and nonchalant and provide more insight to your posts.

I was suspicious of piotrr from the first day but somehow went under the radar because of that non-sense no lynch. Guess what, he voted for no lynch.

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I don't think we ever announced it here.

I been to jail for a whole first day that didnt allow me to post, and new day thread is bit quiet (despite that I should be top 3 in posts so far) or not much friction happening since in terms of back and fortha since targets are chosen too quick ((just like I dont like how Cerval is announced G this quick, kills momentum and things to read), even if the target was the right one, quitens up the place and turns down the pressure in here. Players get to escape being questionned because there was no real urgency of putting ppl in hot seat with votes, things to analyse.

So far in this weird game I get a sense out of likely Gs only on their refusal to answer or explain their thoughts (been G dozen of times so I know its hard to invent thought proccesses or supicions you naturally have as a C), or how they are posting just to appease the masses and fill in posting quota, Cerval was doing that all game (more obvious with more newer players). Or how ALC was so meek and deflecting when Alen tried him, or piottr weak response to you and complete refusal to share his suspicions or genuine thought all damn long, a very telling and lazy G pattern.


The more players post the more you can sense the pattern of someone naturally sharing their thoughts and who isnt. Even with new guys like Campionessd or Mr Choc, genuinely confused and asking often whats going on. Janna way too disinterested to be G, even if she wasnt autolynched. When she is G she becomes a full on nonstop posting confusing clown show. Why half her post in this thread were her reminiscing about the previous times she was a (awful) G. Missed that only and not actually playing the game in general (personally think being C is more fun).


Only two things confuse me in this game right now. First thing, that is Matt, if piottr who think I is 99% G, isnt G, then Matt is only one who is experienced enough (with Völler) to pull off being a well blended in G so far. How he was indirectly covering for ALC tonight in questionning Kyle a little after he announced his choice. But I think he was originally a C tho. But just gave me off vibes yesterday in how he was wording his posts (and thats not only a G trait in itself).


2nd thing is recruitment, has it happend yet? If it has, and its not announced, my money would be on Matt. Not much to go on, but main one that may slightly altered his line of posting.


Think Völler and Mr Chocolate are normal Cs based on their posts throughout the game. With outside good chance that the Gs put Völler in their short list of recruitment (obvious way to do the list to get who they want).



P.S No lynch was the right call, considering what Janna did, even more so. Couldnt risk it. But I agree with you in principle, after decade of this I never liked no lynch for how it kills activity.

 

[Osman]

Why recruited, are you implying you think I was C before?

Anyway who would the Gs favourite candidate to recruit to their team? Who's the most experienced player here with the reputation as one of the best mafia players on Tuz?

If they worded their list the way I think, I would say you and Völler most likely recruits. The list of players left is short, I know Im C and didnt get new PM of being recruited to what looks like a losing cause. Theres Klin too, but they might think its too on the nose to add him since they figure he is the first Cs would suspect has been turned.



That leaves mr Chocolate, who isnt probable recruit choice, unless they want to Keyzer Söze us and mindfvck us later.


This all will be helped by the jailer role being reassigned, the list of 4 suspects should become 3 for D and BG when new jailer contacts them. Then they need to only investigate to try to find who they think has been recruited. Because the true final original G is Piotrr.

 

[Klin]

I been to jail for a whole first day, and new day thread is bit quiet or not much friction happening since in terms of back and fortha since targets are chosen too quick ((just like I dont like how Cerval is announced G this quick, kills momentum and things to read), even if the target was the right one, quitens up the place and turns down the pressure in here. Players get to escape being questionned because there was no real urgency of putting ppl in hot seat with votes, things to analyse.

So far in this weird game I get a sense out of likely Gs only on their refusal to answer or explain their thoughts (been G dozen of times so I know its hard to invent thought proccesses or supicions you naturally have as a C), or how they are posting just to appease the masses and fill in posting quota, Cerval was doing that all game (more obvious with more newer players). Or how ALC was so meek and deflecting when Alen tried him, or piottr weak response to you and complete refusal to share his suspicions or genuine thought all damn long, a very telling and lazy G pattern.


The more players post the more you can sense the pattern of someone naturally sharing their thoughts and who isnt. Even with new guys like Campionessd or Mr Choc, genuinely confused and asking often whats going on. Janna way too disinterested to be G, even if she wasnt autolynched. When she is G she becomes a full on nonstop posting confusing clown show. Why half her post in this thread were her reminiscing about the previous times she was a (awful) G. Missed that only and not actually playing the game in general (personally think being C is more fun).


Only two things confuse me in this game right now. First thing, that is Matt, if piottr who think I is 99% G, isnt G, then Matt is only one who is experienced enough (with Völler) to pull off being a well blended in G so far. How he was indirectly covering for ALC tonight in questionning Kyle a little after he announced his choice. But I think he was originally a C tho. But just gave me off vibes yesterday in how he was wording his posts (and thats not only a G trait in itself).


2nd thing is recruitment, has it happend yet? If it has, and its not announced, my money would be on Matt. Not much to go on, but main one that may slightly altered his line of posting.


Think Völler and Mr Chocolate are normal Cs based on their posts throughout the game. With outside good chance that the Gs put Völler in their short list of recruitment (obvious way to do the list to get who they want).



P.S No lynch was the right call, considering what Janna did, even more so. Couldnt risk it. But I agree with you in principle, after decade of this I never liked no lynch for how it kills activity.

I don't see why we should assume that recruitment hasn't happened yet, I would say even before ALC died, but at least by now for sure.

The game resolves itself around Piotrr, Voller, Matt and you IMO. I think there is at least 1 G there. Although I'm still getting weird vibes from Mr Choc in this game, don't know why, but for now it's nothing.

Going for No Lynch was the best thing the Cs have done in this game, but I hate it. The D and BG did an amazing job today TBH.

 

[Osman]

Out of those names, Piottr is the original G. IMO we should focus on who is the likely recruited player.


And if they havent recruited for some weird reason, to kill piottr first because only G left would be the recruited, since they just said Cerval is G only, not the recruiter.

 

[Bezzy]

Results are in

ALC is lynched, he was a G

campionesidd was whacked, he was the Jailer

Yesss i knew it, sorry you guys i totally forgot about the game last night.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Yesss i knew it, sorry you guys i totally forgot about the game last night.

its fine. Nobody's mad we all forgive you. sorry for your cat

eayay osay uckfay ezzybay eshay antcay ayplay againyay.

 

[piotrr]

So @Osman, first of all please tell me how those posts from day 1:

I usually dont like the tactic, but we should vote no lynch and wait for the detective to give us his investigation result through an intemediary.

Yeah I usually dont like it but no lynch strat makes sense for the first day.

No I dont usually like it because it makes for an inactive day without little to go on for 2nd day. But its safer then the alternative of blind lynching on nothing first day. Especially in small game where every C matters more.

are different from my opinions on the first day, that no lynch is the best way to go?

Actually, after your first post i wanted to present a similar idea (referring to Alen's no lynch proposal). We are a small group and either it will be a very short or boring game or we can make it interesting.

Since we (most probably) have a BG, No Lynch for now.

Since we had a similar opinion and i'm supposedly a G, then so are you?

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So far in this weird game I get a sense out of likely Gs only on their refusal to answer or explain their thoughts (been G dozen of times so I know its hard to invent thought proccesses or supicions you naturally have as a C), or how they are posting just to appease the masses and fill in posting quota, Cerval was doing that all game (more obvious with more newer players). Or how ALC was so meek and deflecting when Alen tried him, or piottr weak response to you and complete refusal to share his suspicions or genuine thought all damn long, a very telling and lazy G pattern.

I don't agree at all. Maybe you have more experience at being a G as i had this role 2 times tops, but when i was a G it was very easy to try and back up your reasoning to make certains Cs look bad. You can mould your theories as you had a better understanding who you want to have lynched. As i C you know almost fuck all, and have to read and analyze a shitload of pages to get the idea what's going on.

Piottr is 99% G at this point, he has the same indentical tells of ALC from the get go. Even the sheepish way to refuse to elaborate and the way both only went after Janna for inactivity.

I wasn't going after anyone in this game and please stop suggesting that. All game i fully support the BG that has the most % chances as i explained to find a G. Me pointing fingers at different posters is not needed here.
Yes, Janna looked for me like a poster who tried to not get involved and write as little as she can, thought she was laying low but turned out to be a useless C torpedoing our game.

 

[Bezzy]

I having my eyes on piotrr and Osman today. I gonna try to be a bit more active today.

 

[Mr Chocolate]

I having my eyes on piotrr and Osman today. I gonna try to be a bit more active today.

Sorry everyone, rules are rules

Jenna was auto-lynched

She was a Dumb-ass C

 

[piotrr]

I having my eyes on piotrr and Osman today. I gonna try to be a bit more active today.

Jesus

 

[Alen]

I having my eyes on piotrr and Osman today. I gonna try to be a bit more active today.

Who else do you think is a G?

I think EVERYONE is looking forward to your analysis today and they will BE SMART ENOUGH TO let you play. They will now delete some old posts they've been quoting and they will go along with me on this.

So, Janna, please go on and share your thoughts.

 

[Klin]

Please let her play pls

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I having my eyes on piotrr and Osman today. I gonna try to be a bit more active today.

Please don't ever post again

 

[Klin]

Please don't ever post again

What are we doing today?

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If we lynch a C we're dead.

 

[Mr Chocolate]

What are we doing today?

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If we lynch a C we're dead.

wait we still have to lynch Cerval don't we?, Kyle said he was a G iirc?

 

[Klin]

wait we still have to lynch Cerval don't we?, Kyle said he was a G iirc?

Yes we do, however I wanna ask everyone what they think we should do. The Gs are running short.

 

[Osman]

Yesss i knew it, sorry you guys i totally forgot about the game last night.

@Tomice

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I having my eyes on piotrr and Osman today. I gonna try to be a bit more active today.

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So @Osman, first of all please tell me how those posts from day 1:







are different from my opinions on the first day, that no lynch is the best way to go?




Since we had a similar opinion and i'm supposedly a G, then so are you?

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I don't agree at all. Maybe you have more experience at being a G as i had this role 2 times tops, but when i was a G it was very easy to try and back up your reasoning to make certains Cs look bad. You can mould your theories as you had a better understanding who you want to have lynched. As i C you know almost fuck all, and have to read and analyze a shitload of pages to get the idea what's going on.


I wasn't going after anyone in this game and please stop suggesting that. All game i fully support the BG that has the most % chances as i explained to find a G. Me pointing fingers at different posters is not needed here.
Yes, Janna looked for me like a poster who tried to not get involved and write as little as she can, thought she was laying low but turned out to be a useless C torpedoing our game.

BLALBLALBA regurgitating the same nonsaying lines every time. This is simple I asked 3 TIMES NOW. Who amongst these players are the last original G left, not hard, and explain probability for each of them:


Osman
Völler
Quetz/Matt
Mr Chocolate.



NOTHING fluff nonsaying repetitions, just go at whats actually asked.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

If they worded their list the way I think, I would say you and Völler most likely recruits. The list of players left is short, I know Im C and didnt get new PM of being recruited to what looks like a losing cause. Theres Klin too, but they might think its too on the nose to add him since they figure he is the first Cs would suspect has been turned.



That leaves mr Chocolate, who isnt probable recruit choice, unless they want to Keyzer Söze us and mindfvck us later.


This all will be helped by the jailer role being reassigned, the list of 4 suspects should become 3 for D and BG when new jailer contacts them. Then they need to only investigate to try to find who they think has been recruited. Because the true final original G is Piotrr.

It was a rhetorical question, Os. YOU are the player the Gs would want to recruit thanks to your reputation and experience. Even though they would only have a 50/50 chance of getting you, your name would definitely be in the pool, unless they take the approach that they want a less obvious G. But they need all the help they can get.

So if you're not an original G which I think you very well may be, you or Voller, you're definitely most likely to be recruited. And if you're neither original nor recruited G, I am really surprised they haven't tried to whack you yet. Why do you think that it is?

Why I think you're an OG... your game has been really off imo. Not making much sense or contributions in uncovering players, and your accusations about me about have been false. I never questioned Kyle's choice about ALC, lol in fact I told Kyle in a PM he was my #1 suspect. Ask him. Also you said you though it was originally C but may have been recruited, but that's a lie too because you have been accusing me since before yesterday.

If I was the D, there is no better option for investigating than you right now. Even if you turn out to be C, it would good to know that we don't have to worry about you.

In short, you're probably an OG imo. If not, good chance you were recruited and the fact they haven't attempted to whack you is very questionable. You're a good team mate and a bad opponent to have from the G's perspective.

 

[Osman]

Or maybe I wasnt whacked exactly so someone can make the post you just did? And I could be saved for later because they think Cs think as you said "I been very off"


So amongst:

Osman
Völler
Piottr
Mr Chocolate


Who is the original G left Matt? And for arguments sake, lets ignore me for a second, since you spend essays repeating the same about me, what do you think about the other 3? Because you say ALC was your number 1 choice, but you were certainly NOT acting like it in your posts last night, and you said you were for no lynch first not, but still refusing to vote for it. So I rather go for what you do then what you say, especially since I know you are way more experienced at this then what most here give you credit for.