Mafia 2020 - Find the carrier (6 Viewers)

[piotrr]

From the rules in the OP:



If anyone had objections they should have voiced them at the start, not saying your point has no merit

Those were the rules we used in the last 5-6 games

@Tomice we always used those rules

https://www.juventuz.com/threads/the-mafia-game-for-dummies.27992/

And it's mentioned there

 

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[Klin]

@Kyle, no rush, but what is the plan today? Are we going for the sure G in jail?

 

[Mr Chocolate]

Obviously he's a G and we don't want him to participate in voting tonight. Is that a problem for you?

oh didn't think of that, just thought it was unanimous that he was getting voted out and it wouldnt make much of a difference.
my bad

 

[Tomice]

@Tomice we always used those rules

https://www.juventuz.com/threads/the-mafia-game-for-dummies.27992/

And it's mentioned there

First, No we didn't, those are from 2009. Just go to every game in the last 5 years and see I copy-pasted the rules.

Second, This game rules are in the OP for a reason.

Please leave the disscusion on this specific topic for after the game

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

oh didn't think of that, just thought it was unanimous that he was getting voted out and it wouldnt make much of a difference.
my bad

You're correct, I don't see the point of jailing Cerval

 

[piotrr]

First, No we didn't, those are from 2009. Just go to every game in the last 5 years and see I copy-pasted the rules.

Second, This game rules are in the OP for a reason.

Please leave the disscusion on this specific topic for after the game

I get that you want to stick to your rules but it makes no sense to allow the same person being jailed day after day.
I know it makes me look like a G that i bring this, but like Quetz said it makes the D unwhackable if he will be put into jail every day. So there will be basically 2 immortal C players.

 

[X Æ A-12]

From the rules in the OP:



If anyone had objections they should have voiced them at the start, not saying your point has no merit

Those were the rules we used in the last 5-6 games

it was not in the initial rules and that was taken into consideration when Cerval was jailed. too late to go back now

 

[Tomice]

I get that you want to stick to your rules but it makes no sense to allow the same person being jailed day after day.
I know it makes me look like a G that i bring this, but like Quetz said it makes the D unwhackable if he will be put into jail every day. So there will be basically 2 immortal C players.

As I said I don't disagree, But the order was already recived.

I'm fine with changing it tomorrow

 

[Völler]

@Tomice we always used those rules

https://www.juventuz.com/threads/the-mafia-game-for-dummies.27992/

And it's mentioned there

To be fair the rules do say "The jailer may not imprison the same person twice in a row.". There has been two different jailers.

 

[piotrr]

To be fair the rules do say "The jailer may not imprison the same person twice in a row.". There has been two different jailers.

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BLALBLALBA regurgitating the same nonsaying lines every time. This is simple I asked 3 TIMES NOW. Who amongst these players are the last original G left, not hard, and explain probability for each of them:

Osman
Völler
Quetz/Matt
Mr Chocolate.

NOTHING fluff nonsaying repetitions, just go at whats actually asked.

You expect me to elaborate while giving answers like 'BLABLA' to my post

I will repeat again - my explanations on who is the last original G left mean nothing as i know fuck all as a regular C. What do you expect me to analyze in this game? We had the BG from day 1, there are no voting patterns, no attempts to save a G (trying to save ALC would be a suicide), everyone following the BG. Gs tactic is to blend in and counting on a lucky D whack especially when (it seems) the D was on point with his investigations.

There, let me present you opinions out of my arse based on hunches and star alignment:
Osman: doesn't look like a G from his posts in the beginning, supported no lynch idea like myself, then was questioning many players including pushing for Cerval who (it seems) turns out a G. The discussions you are having with Quetz are very interesting tho as you guys seem to have 2 completely different opinions on most things. Would be a good tactic to have 2 Gs voicing completely different opinions in the thread. Given the experience you have one can question why you weren't whacked yet if you are a C, but maybe the Gs would prefer to recruit you.

Voller: makes me suspicious as he was against no lynch which was clearly the way to go in this small game. Tried to make my suggestion to investigate a jailed Osman look bad, then suddenly it was a good idea to investigate a jailed Cerval. Very probable G, looking also at this post:

In terms of who I've have found suspicious today, piotrr (making a few weird suggestions, to investigate Osman among those), Cerval (being restrained) and campionesidd (being under the radar and suspecting Osman just after he's been jailed) have been the main ones, but it's obviously not a lot to go on.

Campione is an already confirmed C, and Cerval a G. Was he trying to blend one of his G buddies in here? Maybe.

Quetz: As i said almost everything he writes seems reasonable to me, as he was trying to base this game on percentages and propose good moves to BG instead of following hunches. Even if he's a G he's playing a C game. Might go through the posts later.
Edit: actually i thought about another case, if i get lynched/whacked and turn out to be a C - it will be very convenient for Matt, who keeps saying i sound like a C for him.

Choco: just skimmed thrugh his posts, mostly one liners that you can't say much about.

 

[X Æ A-12]

@Kyle, no rush, but what is the plan today? Are we going for the sure G in jail?

Cerval is a confirmed G so yes I plan to vote for him today.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Mainly the Bodyguard, but also whoever is investigated and cleared as civilian. Assuming we dont have recruiter role for the Gs this time?

Didnt read it fully, just skimmed it, I remember seeing crooked coop that snoops in post, but little else, so assumed it was a vanilla game of the Gs only having snoops when I made that post. But it makes sense for the Gs to have recruiter too, otherwise Cs win easily if they can freely contact eachother without fearing recruitment.

You or/piottr are defenitely Gangsters.



3rd most obvious is Quetz.

So you been on my case (as well as Piotrr) since day 2, but you said today that you think I was a C from the beginning and only now may have been recruited.

The reasons you presently give for suspecting me (and Piotrr) are for things that only happened after day 2, so they appear as invented justifications.

P.S. Not saying that makes Piotrr a C, although I do think he is. But your justifications are suspicious. Also yes, you did name Cerval from day 2, but of course naming a fellow G when there's no real threat is in every G's toolbox. Could be doing the same with Piotrr. idk.

Because he is someone I find suspicious, and you need to re-read my post of earlier to understand why I said its important why ppl share their thoughts and dont only vote on what Kyle says. Doesnt necessarily mean you shouldnt vote with Kyle if you agree with the hunch.

You went along with Kyle's choice of ALC after you were opposed to the idea of us all following Kyle. When I asked why, you said you found ALC suspicious, but you had never even mentioned him prior to that. And then you went on to interrogate him when he was already a lost cause like if he was on your radar all the time. So like I said before, that is suspiciously convenient.

Most obvious G ever.

lol

That was referring to ALC. Like I said, he never mentioned ALC before Kyle put his name down. But yeah, most obvious G.

Really? You seemed adamant in being against his tactic and indirectly against choice of target?

This was said to me, and is completely made up.

 

[piotrr]

We are 6:2 or 5:3 now if the recruitment happened.
Gs can have even a 33% chance to whack the D tonight - imo Kyle should protect himself til the end. If he protects the D and gets whacked, the D can be dead next day anyway.

Hopefully the D survives one more day but if not or if he will not confirm another G with his investigation - we will have a nervous day tomorrow at 4:2.

 

[Osman]

Im voting for piotrr. Lets go fellas. Lots of empty talks by bsing gangsters/recruit thats not remotely worth replying to.


If you bs merchants think im a G vote for me, let me see you try. Tommorrow if you like, if you dont whack me tonight that is, which I honestly prefer because you would take out a regular C and D is around another day to investigate you.



Whoever is the D, investigate one of Matt or Klin, most probable recruited ones, final G is piotrr, couldnt be clearer for every word he types.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Im voting for piotrr. Lets go fellas. Lots of empty talks by bsing gangsters/recruit thats not remotely worth replying to.


If you bs merchants think im a G vote for me, let me see you try. Tommorrow if you like, if you dont whack me tonight that is, which I honestly prefer because you would take out a regular C and D is around another day to investigate you.



Whoever is the D, investigate one of Matt or Klin, most probable recruited ones, final G is piotrr, couldnt be clearer for every word he types.

What's your actual case for Piotrr? I have to read through his posts still but I'm willing to hear you out. So far you're just giving vague reasons and totally unlike your usual self. Seems like you have very little to work with for you to have make up stuff about me

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@Klin and @Mr Chocolate who is your prime suspect and why?

 

[piotrr]

Cerval

 

[Mr Chocolate]

What's your actual case for Piotrr? I have to read through his posts still but I'm willing to hear you out. So far you're just giving vague reasons and totally unlike your usual self. Seems like you have very little to work with for you to have make up stuff about me

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@Klin and @Mr Chocolate who is your prime suspect and why?

I highly doubt Piotrr was a G from day 1 as Osman suggests, he has been pretty consistent all game in terms of narrative so im not too sure what to think, But Osman was infavour of No-Lynch too.

I think the D should investigate Voller, against no-lynch in the beginning (although so was Klin), then was against the Kyle plan, not sure if he genuinely believes what he is saying or is just trying to muddy the waters
But Cerval should be gone tonight 100%

 

[Völler]

I highly doubt Piotrr was a G from day 1 as Osman suggests, he has been pretty consistent all game in terms of narrative so im not too sure what to think, But Osman was infavour of No-Lynch too.

I think the D should investigate Voller, against no-lynch in the beginning (although so was Klin), then was against the Kyle plan, not sure if he genuinely believes what he is saying or is just trying to muddy the waters
But Cerval should be gone tonight 100%

You realize you're literally using the same expression as Quetzalcoatl here. I'd prefer some independent thinking.

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Also: Cerval

 

[Mr Chocolate]

You realize you're literally using the same expression as Quetzalcoatl here. I'd prefer some independent thinking.

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Also: Cerval

yeah i had spanner in the works written but i prefer the muddy water visuals

 

[Klin]

Im voting for piotrr. Lets go fellas. Lots of empty talks by bsing gangsters/recruit thats not remotely worth replying to.


If you bs merchants think im a G vote for me, let me see you try. Tommorrow if you like, if you dont whack me tonight that is, which I honestly prefer because you would take out a regular C and D is around another day to investigate you.



Whoever is the D, investigate one of Matt or Klin, most probable recruited ones, final G is piotrr, couldnt be clearer for every word he types.

You and your fixation with piotrr is weird, even by your standards in this game. I was suspicious of him at first, but to me, both him and Matt are the ones who are oozing C behavior, apart from me.

To me, it's really strange that you're still here on day 3 when if I'm honest, you haven't been making a lot of sense since after you returned from jail.

What's your actual case for Piotrr? I have to read through his posts still but I'm willing to hear you out. So far you're just giving vague reasons and totally unlike your usual self. Seems like you have very little to work with for you to have make up stuff about me

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@Klin and @Mr Chocolate who is your prime suspect and why?

Osman for reasons mentioned above. His reasoning on piotrr is almost desperate.