Luciano Moggi (13 Viewers)
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It was Moggi who signed Ibrahimovic for Juventus in 2004 after he had first made his mark at Ajax.
Nothing seems to phase Ibrahimovic and that includes a surprise 40th birthday party organised by his wife.
https://football-italia.net/pogba-gattuso-and-cassano-at-ibrahimovics-birthday-party/
Nothing seems to phase Ibrahimovic and that includes a surprise 40th birthday party organised by his wife.
https://football-italia.net/pogba-gattuso-and-cassano-at-ibrahimovics-birthday-party/
Just watching the Netflix episode. All made up shit. All they have is a furious old man in Moggi being out of line "I locked the ref in the bath" etc. Wtf does that even mean. .I don't see Ferguson being prosecuted for manure always getting 5 min extra time whenever they were down and immediate whistle when they were ahead. Intimidation goes on everywhere difference is we got pointed out.
Man an intelligent neutral can put together the statements in tbe video and decide. It's all technicalities, all accusations, that shit would have been thrown out of court here in the U.S in half an hour. If anything it was a conspiracy to weaken our club. Look at that roster, was barely beginning to gel and destroy all teams before it..that team could dismantle any team and we were taking apart because of it.
I think there are two parts to the story - the punishment of Luciano Moggi and the punishment of Juventus. Although I agree that persons in similar positions in other big clubs were doing similar or possibly even worse crimes, Moggi wasn't playing by the book and he deserved to be banned from football. The punishment of Juventus (which wasn't handed out by court but by FIGC) is the one that sticks out like a sour thumb, Inter who were doing the same shit benefited massively.
If you are fining Juve as a club then Moggi is punished in that scenario as well by being demoted with the club. meaning that already serves as his punishment. If you are fining Moggi who as you say did wrong then with no proven evidence that the club had any knowledge how do you demote the club as well? It's one or the other not both. Some mafioso shit.
Funny how nowhere did the documentary mention the involvement of fachetti and inter, Meani and milan, hell even Guido Rossi's involvement with inter/pirelli and became head of the figc to punish Juve.
Just seemed there was a bit of a cover up from the producers in the end to then say "oh by the way milan, lazio, etc... all got punished though not to the same degree, doesn't matter why or how they were involved all that matters is Juve got made an example of and so did Moggi"
I can't help but think this documentary only helped tarnish our name some more by reminding people of how one sided that case was. It never once mentioned how Juve had 2 weeks to prepare a defence just to appease the figc and uefa.
Just seemed there was a bit of a cover up from the producers in the end to then say "oh by the way milan, lazio, etc... all got punished though not to the same degree, doesn't matter why or how they were involved all that matters is Juve got made an example of and so did Moggi"
I can't help but think this documentary only helped tarnish our name some more by reminding people of how one sided that case was. It never once mentioned how Juve had 2 weeks to prepare a defence just to appease the figc and uefa.
Moggi: "I had more fun doing it in Naples than at Juve"
"I got bored talking about my story, but slowly people are changing their minds. I don't care who wanted to cheat me, the important thing is that I have a clear conscience.
Suffice it to say that in Coverciano they even replaced the video about the referees draw. They called me like a football mafia, but football is like that. People, even if they understand how things went, like to blame me as it happened in Naples.
The trial was done to hit Juventus, not just me. In an episode about Cordoba, a former Inter defender, Auricchio declared that he didn't care about Inter. So what are we talking about? They just wanted to hit Juve.
Am I the God on Earth of Italian football? "We had against the Lega and Coni: I simply defended myself, I was no God. When Pope John Paul II died I decided to postpone the game by one day, but in the end the game was played after twenty days, so Milan could recover Kaka. The blame, however, was given to me. I am not a victim, I am a victim, but I don't care much. "
Relations with Elkann? "These are my things, I don't want to talk about them. Actually, I have to admit that the trio made up of me, Giraudo and Bettega was not very nice, but from this to say that we are guilty of everything it takes.
What happened to the Juve style? "I'm no longer at Juve, you don't have to ask me. But if Gianni Agnelli saw this management he would turn in his grave."
Scudetto? "This year I support Napoli, I like it for the city and the fans. In the past I have enjoyed winning the championships in Naples more than in Turin".
https://www.tuttojuve.com/altre-not...sso-fatto-per-colpire-solo-la-juventus-578415
https://www.spazionapoli.it/2021/11/10/moggi-scudetto-napoli-juventus/
"I got bored talking about my story, but slowly people are changing their minds. I don't care who wanted to cheat me, the important thing is that I have a clear conscience.
Suffice it to say that in Coverciano they even replaced the video about the referees draw. They called me like a football mafia, but football is like that. People, even if they understand how things went, like to blame me as it happened in Naples.
The trial was done to hit Juventus, not just me. In an episode about Cordoba, a former Inter defender, Auricchio declared that he didn't care about Inter. So what are we talking about? They just wanted to hit Juve.
Am I the God on Earth of Italian football? "We had against the Lega and Coni: I simply defended myself, I was no God. When Pope John Paul II died I decided to postpone the game by one day, but in the end the game was played after twenty days, so Milan could recover Kaka. The blame, however, was given to me. I am not a victim, I am a victim, but I don't care much. "
Relations with Elkann? "These are my things, I don't want to talk about them. Actually, I have to admit that the trio made up of me, Giraudo and Bettega was not very nice, but from this to say that we are guilty of everything it takes.
What happened to the Juve style? "I'm no longer at Juve, you don't have to ask me. But if Gianni Agnelli saw this management he would turn in his grave."
Scudetto? "This year I support Napoli, I like it for the city and the fans. In the past I have enjoyed winning the championships in Naples more than in Turin".
https://www.tuttojuve.com/altre-not...sso-fatto-per-colpire-solo-la-juventus-578415
https://www.spazionapoli.it/2021/11/10/moggi-scudetto-napoli-juventus/
Luciano Moggi: “Zlatan is absolutely right, unlike all the quaquaraquà who are in football, he is a serious person. Ibra is right, those championships were won on the pitch and no one can to say otherwise, because no process has established that the championship was altered.
"At Juventus the scudetti were taken away by those who had an interest in killing those who knew how to work well. Like today for capital gains: the name Juventus is written in large letters, that of the other clubs with characters like a mortuary announcement.”
"At Juventus the scudetti were taken away by those who had an interest in killing those who knew how to work well. Like today for capital gains: the name Juventus is written in large letters, that of the other clubs with characters like a mortuary announcement.”
Moggi to Report: “There are very powerful agents: Mendes and Raiola and then there are agents inside clubs that help find new players. The agent doesn't harm the club, the club does it to itself when they don't know how to deal. I made strong teams with Raiola: do you know how much I gave him after I signed Nedved and Emerson when he acted as an intermediary? And including Ibrahimovic? All deals with Raiola costed me a million.”
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Moggi to Report: “If you do a plusvalenza, all you do is push the debts to later years. We were investigated for a plusvalenza of 5mln, Juve was being monitored by Lega calcio for helping Fiorentina who was going bankrupt and we bought Moretti from them. There were clubs that were doing this with 200 and something million and you know all of them, like Inter, Milan, Roma. The prosecutors closed the case in a few months. Our sentence lasted 2 years for 5mln just because it was a complaint against unknown persons from Juventus. The unknowns were myself, Bettega and Giraudo. The club reached a settlement and the sentence was terminated as it wasn't existent.”
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Moggi to Report: “If you do a plusvalenza, all you do is push the debts to later years. We were investigated for a plusvalenza of 5mln, Juve was being monitored by Lega calcio for helping Fiorentina who was going bankrupt and we bought Moretti from them. There were clubs that were doing this with 200 and something million and you know all of them, like Inter, Milan, Roma. The prosecutors closed the case in a few months. Our sentence lasted 2 years for 5mln just because it was a complaint against unknown persons from Juventus. The unknowns were myself, Bettega and Giraudo. The club reached a settlement and the sentence was terminated as it wasn't existent.”