'comon... get into the swing of things...make a case for no conspiracy...or som'hin
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Well, this whole thread is about a Sweden - Denmark conspiracy.
Italy beat Bularia in the last minute or so just like Sweden equalised in the last minute or so...yet no question of a conspiracy between Italy - Bulgaria.
Would those who believe the Danes and Swedes had a conspiracy present an argument against a claim that the Italians didn't bribe the Bulgarians to let them win.
Were's the evidence this didn't happen
Although I don't believe it to be so, I'd still like them to defend the accuation, just like those who are defending the Danes and Swedes are being asked to do.
Convince me beyond a reasonable doubt it didn't happen
I'm only acting as Devils Advocate here, but I'd like to see the arguments
Italy beat Bularia in the last minute or so just like Sweden equalised in the last minute or so...yet no question of a conspiracy between Italy - Bulgaria.
Would those who believe the Danes and Swedes had a conspiracy present an argument against a claim that the Italians didn't bribe the Bulgarians to let them win.
Were's the evidence this didn't happen
Although I don't believe it to be so, I'd still like them to defend the accuation, just like those who are defending the Danes and Swedes are being asked to do.
Convince me beyond a reasonable doubt it didn't happen
I'm only acting as Devils Advocate here, but I'd like to see the arguments
It is clear that the Italians, seeing a Quarterfinals place (as Sweden was a goal down to Denmark) set the fixing wheels in motion. Within seconds a hurriedly prepared payoff was prepared for th Bulgarian federation. The deal was presented behind the scenes to the Bulgarian Federation President by known thief and match fixer Pierluigi Collina. The large cash sum was advanced out of the proceeds of Collina's lawsuit against Juventus supporters for starting a slanderous website aimed at Collina's record of thievery.
Answer me this...you honestly think that it was arranged that they would leave it till the last few minutes to ensure a 2-2 draw...cutting it a bit fine, no?
And as for Sorenson I'll say this...the Larsson penalty (and I'm ashamed to say this as Henrik is like a God to me) was not a penalty.
Henke dived (IMHO) and the ref got it wrong. Sorenson did not touch Larsson.
So...why not?
If he wanted to give away a penalty why not definetely bring Larsson down and make a show of it?
Why even get his hand to the cross which led to the Swedish second goal...why not just let it go by and on to a Swedish players head, or deflect it into the goal? Keepers make errors...he's human
You know...least season, Celtic lost the league title to Rangers by goal difference...one goal.
After the last match of the season Celtic's Chris Sutton made a statement live on TV right after the final whistle at Kilmarnock - Rangers opponents that day, Dunfermline, had laid down to Rangers and let them win...he hadn't seen the Rangers game...but just assumed The Pars had laid down.
Sutton was banned for six matches and heavily fined . Dunfermline and their players threatened to sue Sutton for slander, and he was forced to make a groveling public aplogy.
If I was Sweden or Denmark I'd demand that uefa take action against any Italian player or official who continues to make slanderous accusations
Sorry to say it, but Italy just didn't do enough to progress
Of course, maybe he's actually superhuman, and was able to direct a spinning football, flying at him at an upward angle, travelling at sixty-seventy miles an hour, down, with one hand, accurately, to the feet of a moving Swedish player, at the correct pace and angle, to enable him to volley into the net, through two moving players...WOW
People...give up the ghost...move on
As a general rule, whether science or conspiracy theories or the existence of gods and other higher beings, proving non-existence of anything is such a fruitless, pointless argument that I don't think it should even register as a legitimate form of debate or justification. The burden of proof is always on anyone who says such a thing exists -- not on the people who say something doesn't exist.
I'm at least as bummed as you are about Italy not going through. But I'm not going to even think about using outside forces as a scapegoat for their failures. Too easy, too convenient, and too much denial. No team is going to advance unless they forget about the forces beyond their control and focus instead on earning it with the forces within their control. Otherwise, it's a waste of time and energy and an excuse to avoid responsibility.
I'm at least as bummed as you are about Italy not going through. But I'm not going to even think about using outside forces as a scapegoat for their failures. Too easy, too convenient, and too much denial. No team is going to advance unless they forget about the forces beyond their control and focus instead on earning it with the forces within their control. Otherwise, it's a waste of time and energy and an excuse to avoid responsibility.