Lockerbie bomber released (21 Viewers)

[Red]

Why are you surprised that BP lobbied for his release? This type of shady shit is what all corporations are involved in one way or another.

1. There is no evidence BP did lobby for his release. It may well just have come up because it seems to be perfectly okay to accuse BP of anything you want at the moment.

2. Because it didn't result in what America wanted.

 

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[Bjerknes]

Why are you surprised that BP lobbied for his release? This type of shady shit is what all corporations are involved in one way or another.

So you're a communist, Tahir?

 

[Bjerknes]

1. There is no evidence BP did lobby for his release. It may well just have come up because it seems to be perfectly okay to accuse BP of anything you want at the moment.

2. Because it didn't result in what America wanted.

This is why we should be pushing for criminal charges against BP, taking them down.

It will hurt you lot more than it will hurt us.

So you can stick that between your teeth.

 

[Red]

Large institutions like Goldman Sachs suspiciously dumped BP stock in March, right before the disaster happened. So I'd say that the 39% was probably mostly Goldman and JP Morgan, which is was dumped and shorted.

You'd have to be insane to be holding BP stock through this entire mess, or either stupid. I'd wager to say that the British pensioners are probably more stupid than insane.

Very few Americans are holding BP stock, methinks.

The evidence will probably come out because BP lobbying the Scots is a rational scenario. Lets not be childish here, Red.

Do you hate all oil companies?

 

[Fred]

Large institutions like Goldman Sachs suspiciously dumped BP stock in March, right before the disaster happened. So I'd say that the 39% was probably mostly Goldman and JP Morgan, which is was dumped and shorted.

You'd have to be insane to be holding BP stock through this entire mess, or either stupid. I'd wager to say that the British pensioners are probably more stupid than insane.

Very few Americans are holding BP stock, methinks.

The evidence will probably come out because BP lobbying the Scots is a rational scenario. Lets not be childish here, Red.

So you're a communist, Tahir?

 

[Fred]

1. There is no evidence BP did lobby for his release. It may well just have come up because it seems to be perfectly okay to accuse BP of anything you want at the moment.

2. Because it didn't result in what America wanted.

Its perfectly rational too.

So you're a communist, Tahir?

You don't have to be a communist to want big corporations power limited.

 

[Red]

Its perfectly rational too.

I'm not interested in what is rational.

Most conspiracy theories are rational on some level.

Until there is evidence, I am willing to assume nothing out of the ordinary happened.

 

[Bjerknes]

Do you hate all oil companies?

That is a post that goes under the "nonsense" subforum.

 

[Red]

That is a post that goes under the "nonsense" subforum.

Why?

I want to know if your problem is with the oil industry or just with BP.

 

[Bjerknes]

What's childish about my post? I was asking a simple question.

What Tahir posted sounded like that sort of propaganda.

 

[Bjerknes]

Why?

I want to know if your problem is with the oil industry or just with BP.

Obviously, it's with BP.

They are the worst offenders when it comes to bypassing regulations and also lobbying for this carbon tax bullshit.

 

[Fred]

I'm not interested in what is rational.

Most conspiracy theories are rational on some level.

Until there is evidence, I am willing to assume nothing out of the ordinary happened.

So if they're clever enough to cover their trails(which they probably are) you're willing to give them a free pass?

If this were a courtroom i'd understand.


I don't know if BP was involved in the decision to let Al-Megrahi go, but it certainly adds up and seems rather plausible.

 

[Fred]

What's childish about my post? I was asking a simple question.

What Tahir posted sounded like that sort of propaganda.

You misunderstood me


I just like the way you slip in provocative comments in your posts, it didn't have anything to do with me agreeing or disagreeing with you.

 

[Fred]

BP's vision statement was the biggest load of bull ever too.

 

[Red]

So if they're clever enough to cover their trails(which they probably are) you're willing to give them a free pass?

If this were a courtroom i'd understand.

This may well end up in a courtroom or similar, so I see no reason not to start with this attitude.

Even if BP did lobby for the release, there is no evidence that they influenced the decision.

The release, as far as I can tell, was done within the rules.

 

[Zé Tahir]

1. There is no evidence BP did lobby for his release. It may well just have come up because it seems to be perfectly okay to accuse BP of anything you want at the moment.

2. Because it didn't result in what America wanted.

So you're a communist, Tahir?

No.

 

[Fred]

This may well end up in a courtroom or similar, so I see no reason not to start with this attitude.

Even if BP did lobby for the release, there is no evidence that they influenced the decision.

The release, as far as I can tell, was done within the rules.

It probably was. Goes on to show the huge gap between legal compliance and ethical conduct.

 

[Red]

Ethics don't really interest me in these matters.

 

[Fred]

Ethics don't really interest me in these matters.

When it comes to big corporations, it is a big big big issue.

 

[Red]

Meh.

So long as they comply with the law, it doesn't bother me what they do.

Increase regulations if you feel the companies should be doing more.