Klaas Jan Huntelaar (6 Viewers)
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Martin said:
Another Dutchman to Barcelona? How original 
Its also a pity how the Amsterdam Arena was initially built with the intention of bringing in the revenue needed to stop the club from perpetually losing its best talent to the bigger clubs; its also an example of how one big club cannot set the standards for an entire league, and Ajax isn't even near that level anymore.
The Ajax mngt are fine with being a feeder club, they dont really care wether or not they win trophies as long as they make a profit every year, no-one is forcing them 2 sell their talent, look at PSV nobody is forcing them 2 sell half the team every year even though they do sell a few key figures at the club every year, and look at them in CL they have been playing very well, and have been unstoppable in the league
"nobody is forcing them to sell their talent"???
I'm sorry, that is utter bullshit
It's a simple question of economics. Bigger countries - bigger leagues - bigger audiences - more money - higher salaries for players.
You forget that clubs don't sell their players per sé: but players leave instead. If Barcelona come for a player at Ajax and offer him a normal salary to Barcelona standards, it means he will have a salary that's about 5 times higher than what he earns in Amsterdam.
Dutch clubs are financially incapable of hanging on to their players so don't tell me the managements 'only want financial gain'
I'm sorry, that is utter bullshit
It's a simple question of economics. Bigger countries - bigger leagues - bigger audiences - more money - higher salaries for players.
You forget that clubs don't sell their players per sé: but players leave instead. If Barcelona come for a player at Ajax and offer him a normal salary to Barcelona standards, it means he will have a salary that's about 5 times higher than what he earns in Amsterdam.
Dutch clubs are financially incapable of hanging on to their players so don't tell me the managements 'only want financial gain'
Well that's probably true...
I always try my best to make people realise we're nothing but just another small European nation nowadays though (especially since the fall of the Iron Curtain). Losing is bad, if Ajax get kicked around by Bayern München it hurts so much I die a little. But nothing's worse than people who keep having super high expectations based on results from the 1970s, and rubbing it in your face imo
I always try my best to make people realise we're nothing but just another small European nation nowadays though (especially since the fall of the Iron Curtain). Losing is bad, if Ajax get kicked around by Bayern München it hurts so much I die a little. But nothing's worse than people who keep having super high expectations based on results from the 1970s, and rubbing it in your face imo
All too true. But, even though the Netherlands is economically a small european country like any other, the level of domestic talent it well above most of its contemporaries. The NT has been ousted in the semis of the last three major tourney's that they've gotten into. That surely shows something special. But, on the club scene, nobody will be able to hold onto any good players until the Euroleague is established.
Reports emanating from the Italian press continue to link Internazionale with a summer swoop for Klaas Jan Huntelaar.
The Dutch forward has enjoyed a brilliant campaign with the Amsterdam giants and his 33 goals have not gone unnoticed across Europe.
Inter are likely to reshape their squad in the summer and it is Huntelaar that is reportedly the subject of their observations.
However, while Inter could indeed be keen to do business, Ajax would be loath to lose their chief goalscorer after a disappointing domestic campaign.
It is thought the Dutch outfit would not even consider a sale for anything less than €9-10 million, which could ultimately prohibit any departure.
Inter are also likely to be keen suitors of Ruud van Nistelrooy, if, as expected, the prolific Dutchman leaves Old Trafford, meaning a move for Huntelaar could be put on the back burner.
-Sky Sports
The Dutch forward has enjoyed a brilliant campaign with the Amsterdam giants and his 33 goals have not gone unnoticed across Europe.
Inter are likely to reshape their squad in the summer and it is Huntelaar that is reportedly the subject of their observations.
However, while Inter could indeed be keen to do business, Ajax would be loath to lose their chief goalscorer after a disappointing domestic campaign.
It is thought the Dutch outfit would not even consider a sale for anything less than €9-10 million, which could ultimately prohibit any departure.
Inter are also likely to be keen suitors of Ruud van Nistelrooy, if, as expected, the prolific Dutchman leaves Old Trafford, meaning a move for Huntelaar could be put on the back burner.
-Sky Sports
Actually, I'd like to turn that around. We're the EU's sixth largest economy after Germany, France, the UK, Spain and Italy, which isn't bad (especially not considering the huge gap between the top 6 and the other member states). In any other field though, we're not nearly as good. And this is pretty much the last generation of talent, many analysts have spotted a gap in the youth academies following the generation of Van der Vaart etc. There are worrying times ahead with the Russians aiming to kick us down the UEFA coefficients rankings.
I have no idea whatsover what Van Basten is like as a coach , can you guys feel me in as to what you think of him as a manager? Is he more Michels than Van Gaal? Is he as good or better than his Milan peers Ancelotti, Rijkard,Gullitt , Koeman and Donadoni?Is he negative or positive? As he taken the team forward from 2004 ec?
finally someone who gets it 
Van Basten is Van Basten - there is no comparing him.
His philosophy regarding the national team in a few basic rules:
1) Always play 4-3-3, allowing attacking, dominant play including wingers
2) Don't adapt the formation to the type of players you have. If the best wingers are missing, take the second best wingers. No matter if they are significantly less good
3) Younger talents on fire are to be selected over older players with downhill form at any time. Experience means very little, talent is vastly more important
And:
4) Have a minimum of two players per position at all times, even if that means dropping Huntelaar
On a more personal note: I believe he has made definite progress since Advocaat bombed us all to hell with his negative play (we can't defend, don't try it). However, his promise to play in a dominant style at all times has collapsed. In most games (especially against the Czechs), his tactics didn't always work out and he is one of the luckiest coaches I have ever seen. Then again; the winning coach is always right I guess. He's attacking-minded, sticks to his philosophy at all times and values a harmonious team spirit so much he doesn't mind leaving Seedorf and Davids at home (Davids partly because we'd get way too many red cards since he's not nearly as fast anymore as he used to be).
But I'll take Van Basten. He's the right man at the right place. If anyone; it will be him leading us to victories. He's just unlucky we're in a rough patch right now. If it had been Van Basten steering us during France98, I think we would have won it.
Van Basten is Van Basten - there is no comparing him.
His philosophy regarding the national team in a few basic rules:
1) Always play 4-3-3, allowing attacking, dominant play including wingers
2) Don't adapt the formation to the type of players you have. If the best wingers are missing, take the second best wingers. No matter if they are significantly less good
3) Younger talents on fire are to be selected over older players with downhill form at any time. Experience means very little, talent is vastly more important
And:
4) Have a minimum of two players per position at all times, even if that means dropping Huntelaar
On a more personal note: I believe he has made definite progress since Advocaat bombed us all to hell with his negative play (we can't defend, don't try it). However, his promise to play in a dominant style at all times has collapsed. In most games (especially against the Czechs), his tactics didn't always work out and he is one of the luckiest coaches I have ever seen. Then again; the winning coach is always right I guess. He's attacking-minded, sticks to his philosophy at all times and values a harmonious team spirit so much he doesn't mind leaving Seedorf and Davids at home (Davids partly because we'd get way too many red cards since he's not nearly as fast anymore as he used to be).
But I'll take Van Basten. He's the right man at the right place. If anyone; it will be him leading us to victories. He's just unlucky we're in a rough patch right now. If it had been Van Basten steering us during France98, I think we would have won it.