Katrina Hits The Big Easy! (13 Viewers)

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Mar 6, 2005
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Fair enough..
:)
I thought you would use the offended card. I wish atheists were allowed to ' get offended ' when religious people talked about their religion.
You're talking to an arab here.. I'm used to brushing off offense.. ;)

And that was a half-joke..

And atheists are allowed to be offended.. they just don't speak up much.. probably cuz we outnumber them all.. :D
 

Dan

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:D

Ok ive had enough of my anti religious stuff today. I found out in English that one of the coolest people ever ( William Blake) was infact religious.

He almost had it down!
 

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:D

Ok ive had enough of my anti religious stuff today. I found out in English that one of the coolest people ever ( William Blake) was infact religious.

He almost had it down!
looool.. :D
 

Dan

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Mar 9, 2004
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You're talking to an arab here.. I'm used to brushing off offense.. ;)

And that was a half-joke..

And atheists are allowed to be offended.. they just don't speak up much.. probably cuz we outnumber them all.. :D
Dont worry.. I dont do it with the intention of pissing you off, so dont take offense where there is none even being given. ;)

anyway ill quit it.
 

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Dont worry.. I dont do it with the intention of pissing you off, so dont take offense where there is none even being given. ;)

anyway ill quit it.
Oh I wasn't referring to you, though.. Talk shit about religion all you want.. I don't care.. :)
 

Dan

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Oh I wasn't referring to you, though.. Talk shit about religion all you want.. I don't care.. :)
its fair enough now. The joke gets unfunny if you continue it too long anyway
 

Dan

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oh yes.. it was never funny in the first place, though.. ;)
Is that so? Erik would beg to differ.. no one returns an unfunny joke 4 times over (unless they have a severe pity complex :scared: )
 

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Is that so? Erik would beg to differ.. no one returns an unfunny joke 4 times over (unless they have a severe pity complex :scared: )
Oh, believe me.. there are a LOT of people like that.. I know many of 'em as well.. ;)
 
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    Back to topic, here's a fantastic open letter addressed to Bush, from The Times-Picayune, New Orleans' most popular newspaper.


    OUR OPINIONS: An open letter to the President
    Dear Mr. President:

    We heard you loud and clear Friday when you visited our devastated city and the Gulf Coast and said, "What is not working, we’re going to make it right."

    Please forgive us if we wait to see proof of your promise before believing you. But we have good reason for our skepticism.

    Bienville built New Orleans where he built it for one main reason: It’s accessible. The city between the Mississippi River and Lake Pontchartrain was easy to reach in 1718.

    How much easier it is to access in 2005 now that there are interstates and bridges, airports and helipads, cruise ships, barges, buses and diesel-powered trucks.

    Despite the city’s multiple points of entry, our nation’s bureaucrats spent days after last week’s hurricane wringing their hands, lamenting the fact that they could neither rescue the city’s stranded victims nor bring them food, water and medical supplies.

    Meanwhile there were journalists, including some who work for The Times-Picayune, going in and out of the city via the Crescent City Connection. On Thursday morning, that crew saw a caravan of 13 Wal-Mart tractor trailers headed into town to bring food, water and supplies to a dying city.

    Television reporters were doing live reports from downtown New Orleans streets. Harry Connick Jr. brought in some aid Thursday, and his efforts were the focus of a "Today" show story Friday morning.

    Yet, the people trained to protect our nation, the people whose job it is to quickly bring in aid were absent. Those who should have been deploying troops were singing a sad song about how our city was impossible to reach.

    We’re angry, Mr. President, and we’ll be angry long after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing. Many who could have been were not. That’s to the government’s shame.

    Mayor Ray Nagin did the right thing Sunday when he allowed those with no other alternative to seek shelter from the storm inside the Louisiana Superdome. We still don’t know what the death toll is, but one thing is certain: Had the Superdome not been opened, the city’s death toll would have been higher. The toll may even have been exponentially higher.

    It was clear to us by late morning Monday that many people inside the Superdome would not be returning home. It should have been clear to our government, Mr. President. So why weren’t they evacuated out of the city immediately? We learned seven years ago, when Hurricane Georges threatened, that the Dome isn’t suitable as a long-term shelter. So what did state and national officials think would happen to tens of thousands of people trapped inside with no air conditioning, overflowing toilets and dwindling amounts of food, water and other essentials?

    State Rep. Karen Carter was right Friday when she said the city didn’t have but two urgent needs: "Buses! And gas!" Every official at the Federal Emergency Management Agency should be fired, Director Michael Brown especially.

    In a nationally televised interview Thursday night, he said his agency hadn’t known until that day that thousands of storm victims were stranded at the Ernest N. Morial Convention Center. He gave another nationally televised interview the next morning and said, "We’ve provided food to the people at the Convention Center so that they’ve gotten at least one, if not two meals, every single day."

    Lies don’t get more bald-faced than that, Mr. President.

    Yet, when you met with Mr. Brown Friday morning, you told him, "You’re doing a heck of a job."

    That’s unbelievable.

    There were thousands of people at the Convention Center because the riverfront is high ground. The fact that so many people had reached there on foot is proof that rescue vehicles could have gotten there, too.

    We, who are from New Orleans, are no less American than those who live on the Great Plains or along the Atlantic Seaboard. We’re no less important than those from the Pacific Northwest or Appalachia. Our people deserved to be rescued.

    No expense should have been spared. No excuses should have been voiced. Especially not one as preposterous as the claim that New Orleans couldn’t be reached.

    Mr. President, we sincerely hope you fulfill your promise to make our beloved communities work right once again.

    When you do, we will be the first to applaud.
     

    Slagathor

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    London examines flood defenses

    Tuesday, September 6, 2005 Posted: 1023 GMT (1823 HKT)

    LONDON, England (AP) -- Waves of crushing water may seem out of place on the River Thames, which snakes lazily through London. But the British capital has long lived with the threat of catastrophic flooding.

    London, which sits about 3 feet above sea level, was once extremely vulnerable to surging North Sea tides that would cause the river to suddenly rise.


    A high-standard set of dams shelters London from the Thames River

    Today the city of 8 million is protected by a combination of barriers, embankments and levees, but authorities warn no system is failproof.

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    Click here for the full article.

    Dutch to review anti-flood plans

    Monday, September 5, 2005 Posted: 1439 GMT (2239 HKT)

    AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (AP) -- Anti-flood measures will be reviewed in all Dutch regions below sea level in light of Hurricane Katrina's aftermath to ensure they would be adequate in an emergency, the government said Sunday.

    All possible weak spots in the delta works -- the tall, uniform embankments that protect the Dutch countryside -- also will be examined, said Melanie Schultz van Haegen, the junior transport and waterworks minister.

    She said emphasis will be placed on the populous Amsterdam and Rotterdam regions, which both lie below sea level, De Telegraaf newspaper reported Sunday.


    Holland's Pijlerdam (Pillar Dam) is 5 miles long and blocks the sea from entering the country when tides are high and threatening.

    Flood protection in The Netherlands -- a country about twice the size of New Jersey that is mostly below sea level -- is considered the best in the world.

    The government is planning to spend $3.7 billion over the next ten years on new projects against the threat from river floods, in addition to the $620 million spent annually on maintaining the current system in the country.

    Source: http://edition.cnn.com/europe/
     

    Martin

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    The world speaks clearly.

    Mexico's El Universal

    The slowness with which the USA's federal emergency services have joined the rescue operation has already generated great political tension... There is no doubt that the lack of well-timed responses to assist the population will have political costs for President Bush's Republican Party in the next federal elections.

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    Colombia's El Colombiano

    It is now urgent that the world's leaders take heed of nature's warning, look at the evidence and realise that the climate, on a global scale, is changing. This is already known from scientific reports, but they continue to ignore it, to play it down, or not to care about it.

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    Argentina's Clarin

    Katrina had more than the power of the wind and water, because, now, when they have subsided, it can still reveal the emptiness of an era, one that is represented by President George W Bush more than anyone.

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    Spain's El Pais

    Up until Monday, Bush was the president of the war in Iraq and 9/11. Today there are few doubts that he will also pass into history as the president who didn't know how to prevent the destruction of New Orleans and who abandoned its inhabitants to their fate for days. And the worst is yet to come.

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    Spain's La Razon

    Proving that even the gods are mortal, it is clear that the USA's international image is being damaged in a way that it has never known before. The country will probably be able to recuperate from the destruction, but its pride has already been profoundly wounded.

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    France's Liberation

    Bush had already been slow to react when the World Trade Center collapsed. Four years later, he was no quicker to get the measure of Katrina - a cruel lack of leadership at a time when this second major shock for 21st century America is adding to the crisis of confidence for the world's leading power and to international disorder. As happened with 9/11, the country is displaying its vulnerability to the eyes of the world.

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    France's Le Progres

    Katrina has shown that the emperor has no clothes. The world's superpower is powerless when confronted with nature's fury.

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    Switzerland's Le Temps

    The sea walls would not have burst in New Orleans if the funds meant for strengthening them had not been cut to help the war effort in Iraq and the war on terror... And rescue work would have been more effective if a section of National Guard from the areas affected had not been sent to Baghdad and Kabul... And would George Bush have left his holiday ranch more quickly if the disaster had not first struck the most disadvantaged populations of the black south?

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    Ireland's The Irish Times

    This is a defining moment for Mr Bush, just as much as 9/11 was. So far his reputation for prompt and firm crisis management has fallen far short of what is required.

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    Saudi Arabia's Saudi Gazette

    The episode illustrates that when the normal day-to-day activity of society disintegrates, the collapse of civilisation is only a few paces behind. We all walk on the edge of the abyss.

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    Musib Na'imi in Iran's Al-Vefagh

    About 10,000 US National Guard troops were deployed [in New Orleans] and were granted the authority to fire at and kill whom they wanted, upon the pretext of restoring order. This decision is an indication of the US administration's militarist mentality, which regards killing as the only way to control even its own citizens.

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    Samih Sa'ab in Lebanon's Al-Nahar

    The destruction caused by Hurricane Katrina... has proved that even the No 1 superpower in the world is helpless in facing nature's 'terrorism'.

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    Pakistan's The Nation

    To augment the tragedy, the government of the world's richest nation defied the general expectation that at the first sign of the storm it would muster an armada of ships, boats and helicopters for the rescue operation. For nearly three days it sat smugly apathetic to the people's plight, their need for food, medicine and other basic necessities.

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    Hong Kong's Wen Wei Po

    This disaster is a heavy blow to the United States, and a lesson which deserves deep thought... [It] is a warning to the Bush administration that the United States must clear its head and truly assume its responsibility to protect nature and the environment in which humankind lives.

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    Hong Kong's South China Morning Post

    Even if our money may not be needed, at the least we should be offering moral support. Our skills in dealing with storms may be useful to help Americans prevent other such tragedies. We should be offering this help rather than shrugging off what should be our humanitarian duty.

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    Ambrose Murunga in Kenya's Daily Nation

    My first reaction when television images of the survivors of Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans came through the channels was that the producers must be showing the wrong clip. The images, and even the disproportionately high number of visibly impoverished blacks among the refugees, could easily have been a re-enactment of a scene from the pigeonholed African continent.
    Just a copy/paste job on my part, found this online.
     

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