++ [ originally posted by Rickenbacker ] ++
I still don't understand what your goal is. I'm not an expert on Milan or Serie A before the mid 90's. Does that make me a lesser person or something? Do you want me to admitt that you have more football knowlege than me? Fine: you, Incubo know more about the history of football than I do. That's great, so maybe now you can start analysing the game, not just the club, and when you get that going, you can start presenting logical arguments that answer the challenges brought to you. And if you have the time, you could work on your manners.
Yeah it makes you a lesser person :redface: ... What are you talking about?! Its a Juventus forum..and if someone is going to debate me on an issue (i.e. Ferrara vs. Costacurta) then be ready to think back in terms of their careers and not just re-gurgiate something you picked up on the forum. The point was not about football knowledge at all..but if your going to talk the talk ..WALK THE WALK. More over, the point is its easier for some to take either a personal shot...start an all out attack on someone that to admit that they are WRONG and they the OTHER has a point. Bottom line. I guess no one wants to admit that someone comes into their house (juventuz forum) and embarasses them..even though thats the case.
QUOTE: That's great, so maybe now you can start analysing the game, not just the club, and when you get that going, you can start presenting logical arguments that answer the challenges brought to you. And if you have the time, you could work on your manners.
This last part...you opened up this can of words...NOw your going to deal with it and start answering questions.
Number One: Logical? Challenges brought to me? Your kidding right? Either you have a very 'distorted' understand of the word or you are refering to someone else. I have had people here tell me that:
keepers & defenders never won the Golden Ball.
Van Basten was past his prime when he stopped playing football.
The current criminal case against JUVE is just my imagination.
Berlusconi and Angelli despite being political and financial allies really try to start smear campaigns against the other. Such as Berlusconi being behind the courts and the Juve case.
Your talking logic Rickenbacker? Your talking analysing? Your talking logical arguements? For goodness sake I have to weed out truth from fiction with posters and offer a history course before I can post and your trying to tell me about logical arguments?!
Your talking manners?? manners....and prior you said I lacked decency and tact? Tact Ian? Really...
I won't sing the same old song about being pounced on by many here because I will start sounding like others re-gurgiating the same old thing. Posts speak for themselves.
But I urge you to show my where I instigated a personal attack on someone else...where I generalized (remember that thing you oh so LOATHE!) about an individual ..to the point where if I did I would be banned. Show me where after a discussion of football and where I nailed someone against the wall..when they had nothing else to answer they took the route which is immature even for a 5 year old and opted for a personal attack.
Manners: To respect others. NOT A TEAM. You seem to imply that highlighting Juve's scandals is a lack of manners. NO ... when your team is questioned and responding with an insult ..THAT IS A LACK OF MANNERS. Clear enough?
I'll let you in on a secret because your labeling is getting quite out of hand..it was "smirk" and "roll your eyes" funny at first now its just your way to get everyone to agree and nod in unison.
I avoid two individuals here. One made a generalization which would get most anyone banned...which I avoided reporting.
The second we got off to a terrible start. However, even after I pm'ed the individual they lacked the DECENCY (remember that word) and maturity to reply despite claiming in a thread they did nothing wrong and really didn't get the "big deal".
You want to call me a consipracy theorist...anti-Juve WHATEVER do it...when you make statements just to feel like the moral leader on this thread then be ready to back it..you haven't followed my posts so you really have no say in this. If I lacked manners I would have been banned a long time ago. Martin has the 'last word' here...remember that.
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