i dont need your password big man. gimme a day or two i got to go to sleep.
ciao bello, hihihihihihihi,
ciao bello, hihihihihihihi,
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I think the latin version of this is "Spankum,Spewum,Sleepum"
Luuuuccccccyyyyyyyy, Ricky has come home again, mamacita!!
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Hey Lucy, I wanked in Fred and Ethel's oatmeal, and gave a new meaning to "Cream of Wheat".
I've been thinking of changing my name as well. USA Juventini has run its course.
Since I've been trying to keep the peace (albeit somewhat unsuccesfully, thank you very much Nick
), I was thinking of NATO, or in honor of the greatest plastic and cloth Rotweiller foul mouthed puppet on the planet, The Dogpounder.Pado, Josh, any suggestions??
Pado, I'm thinking more along the lines of "The Dogpounder", because I already have Triumph's avatar and I already created the sig line for him, and quite frankly, I'm too lazy to change it.
I'm going to listen to his CD again tosee if I get get a different reference for a name. But USA Juventini is going to go soon.
I'm going to listen to his CD again tosee if I get get a different reference for a name. But USA Juventini is going to go soon.
You're still skirting the issue. The question is why do you want to come into our forum and embarrass us? What's the point? Does this give you some kind of satisfaction to see us struggle to defend our team even though there are some things that can not be defended? There are things that Juventus has done and not done which none of us are proud of, and we couldn't possibly explain them away. But, we are not fair-weather fans, so we stick with our team.
Furthermore, I don't see why you have to have a constant competition of knowledge. A lot of people on this forum don't have access to the volume and range of information that you do, or that I do, and they come here to learn as well as express their opinions. You have to understand that you act aggressively and people feel the need to be defensive because of that. You're not going to be accepted with the way you act, even if you are right. You also have to realise that we all carry a bias and yours is against Juventus while ours is for Juve, thus we must inevitably clash on matters of opinion. You're not accomplishing anything by continuing to be belligerent.
I define logic by Aristotle's model, as a system of reasoning. That means that you don't make unfounded assumptions or generalise simply to prove a point, or make unnecessary hypotheses.
I can't account for the words of every poster here and I'm not going to try to argue down every criticism of every poster here, but I know that I have brought you logical argument after logical argument, and you do not acknowledge any of them, but simply go on spouting your original point.
You have your own view of truth and fiction as have all the rest of us. Simply because they're not always parallel doesn't make us wrong. And I am trying to tell you about logical arguments. You make assumptions, leaps in reasoning, and generalise when it's no warranted. Furthermore, you contrive extravagant theories where a simple answer exists. That's not being logical.
Yes, manners. I'm talking about not belittling other posters, not disrespecting people, whether they know what they are talking about or not. I'm talking about knowing when to apologize and knowing when to back off. You're always criticising someone or something that we all like, and at the same time criticising that we all jump on you. It's ridiculous.
Stop playing the victim. We did not seek you out on your forum and attack your club, whether it was a warranted attack or not. We did not act aggressively toward you. You came here and started all this shit, you are the one who is responsible. Stop whining about it.
I'm not implying that highlighting Juve's scandals is a lack of manners, I'm saying that to do so and then whine about being attacked is stupid and childish. Then to continue to act aggressively and target other posters, that's a lack of manners. And, you are insulted because you are not wanted. Don't you understand that haters like you detract from a forum despite all your arguments to the contrary? Juventus supporters have our own way of discussing our scandals. Perhaps we see them in a different light, but why is that so disturbing to you, that we should see our own team positively? you're not telling us anything that we didn't know, you're just rubbing it in our faces and there's not much for us to do about it. And, that's a lack of manners too.
I'm not labeling you. I defended you and kept you on this forum in the beginning, because I thought that you would learn something and act in a more appropriate manner. To my surprise, you have done nothing to warrant the faith that I showed in you and you have continued to be aggressive and disrespectful. Thus, I have come to the conclusion by witnessing your behaviour that you are not contributing positively. And, did you ever think that everyone is agreeing with me because I'm right?
Well, I hope you're proud of yourself. You managed to alienate two posters here and now you're trying to blame that on them. I'm not falling for that.
I'm not trying to be the moral leader, I'm trying to get you to acknowledge your wrongs and correct them in the future. I'm angry because you've ruined this thread and these awards. And you are a conspiracy theorist, you constantly whine about the mob mentality, and you are anti-Juve, how can even claim not to be? You have not been banned because people have defended you, please know that.
Look, here's my message to you: Back off a little bit. You don't have to go full speed all the time with the mob mentality crap and you don't constantly have to bring up Juve's scandals and Del Piero's poor form. You're not doing anyone any favours, you're just provoking and then whining about the response you get. If you don't like the response, THEN STOP PROVOKING!
Furthermore, I don't see why you have to have a constant competition of knowledge. A lot of people on this forum don't have access to the volume and range of information that you do, or that I do, and they come here to learn as well as express their opinions. You have to understand that you act aggressively and people feel the need to be defensive because of that. You're not going to be accepted with the way you act, even if you are right. You also have to realise that we all carry a bias and yours is against Juventus while ours is for Juve, thus we must inevitably clash on matters of opinion. You're not accomplishing anything by continuing to be belligerent.
I define logic by Aristotle's model, as a system of reasoning. That means that you don't make unfounded assumptions or generalise simply to prove a point, or make unnecessary hypotheses.
I can't account for the words of every poster here and I'm not going to try to argue down every criticism of every poster here, but I know that I have brought you logical argument after logical argument, and you do not acknowledge any of them, but simply go on spouting your original point.
You have your own view of truth and fiction as have all the rest of us. Simply because they're not always parallel doesn't make us wrong. And I am trying to tell you about logical arguments. You make assumptions, leaps in reasoning, and generalise when it's no warranted. Furthermore, you contrive extravagant theories where a simple answer exists. That's not being logical.
Yes, manners. I'm talking about not belittling other posters, not disrespecting people, whether they know what they are talking about or not. I'm talking about knowing when to apologize and knowing when to back off. You're always criticising someone or something that we all like, and at the same time criticising that we all jump on you. It's ridiculous.
Stop playing the victim. We did not seek you out on your forum and attack your club, whether it was a warranted attack or not. We did not act aggressively toward you. You came here and started all this shit, you are the one who is responsible. Stop whining about it.
I'm not implying that highlighting Juve's scandals is a lack of manners, I'm saying that to do so and then whine about being attacked is stupid and childish. Then to continue to act aggressively and target other posters, that's a lack of manners. And, you are insulted because you are not wanted. Don't you understand that haters like you detract from a forum despite all your arguments to the contrary? Juventus supporters have our own way of discussing our scandals. Perhaps we see them in a different light, but why is that so disturbing to you, that we should see our own team positively? you're not telling us anything that we didn't know, you're just rubbing it in our faces and there's not much for us to do about it. And, that's a lack of manners too.
I'm not labeling you. I defended you and kept you on this forum in the beginning, because I thought that you would learn something and act in a more appropriate manner. To my surprise, you have done nothing to warrant the faith that I showed in you and you have continued to be aggressive and disrespectful. Thus, I have come to the conclusion by witnessing your behaviour that you are not contributing positively. And, did you ever think that everyone is agreeing with me because I'm right?
Well, I hope you're proud of yourself. You managed to alienate two posters here and now you're trying to blame that on them. I'm not falling for that.
I'm not trying to be the moral leader, I'm trying to get you to acknowledge your wrongs and correct them in the future. I'm angry because you've ruined this thread and these awards. And you are a conspiracy theorist, you constantly whine about the mob mentality, and you are anti-Juve, how can even claim not to be? You have not been banned because people have defended you, please know that.
Look, here's my message to you: Back off a little bit. You don't have to go full speed all the time with the mob mentality crap and you don't constantly have to bring up Juve's scandals and Del Piero's poor form. You're not doing anyone any favours, you're just provoking and then whining about the response you get. If you don't like the response, THEN STOP PROVOKING!
I don't have much time to post tonight but I will reply because I don't want you to think I'm SKIRTING the issue. You asked me to back off and constantly bringing up DP's form..however if you bothered reading my posts you will see that I'm actually a defender of DP as a player "on his game" and actually scolded some for calling for his exit from Juve. I am aggresive, I am constantly bringing up scandals and I will continue to do so. The same way Juventini smirk and sneer at our win in the CL Final we smirk and sneer at the scandal that surrounds you. The black and white world is not as rosy as you all think...you are not as superior to us as most think AND call it conspiracy theories, bitterness, jealousy or even coincidence but when the same story follows one team and that team is the most winning team...be ready to explain...yes even as a fan as you are the rep. of your team in among the "common folk".
Back off...You know me better than that. I see that you never really gave me examples of lack of manners because you know that it was an extreme comment. I would like to add that if you debated me on football rather than only to BARK at me you may discover other things.
Back off...You know me better than that. I see that you never really gave me examples of lack of manners because you know that it was an extreme comment. I would like to add that if you debated me on football rather than only to BARK at me you may discover other things.
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In your defense, I have seen that from you on more than one occasion
Like the fact that you really are a good guy once people get to know you here?? Yes, I know that too. However, Nick, that won't happen as long as people have the perception that they have. It takes two to tango, friend, you know that. So give a little to these guys (and gals), and you'll get much more than you coudl expect.
I mean christ, I can't be your ONLY friend in here, Can I???
I hope we can end this once and for all, please.
This taking redundancy to an all new level.
Ian, both you and Nick bring up very valid points.
NOW DROP IT ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't make me get out my Ricky Ricardo Congas and start singing a Salsa version of "Kumbayah".
In your defense, I have seen that from you on more than one occasion
Like the fact that you really are a good guy once people get to know you here?? Yes, I know that too. However, Nick, that won't happen as long as people have the perception that they have. It takes two to tango, friend, you know that. So give a little to these guys (and gals), and you'll get much more than you coudl expect.
I mean christ, I can't be your ONLY friend in here, Can I???
I hope we can end this once and for all, please.
This taking redundancy to an all new level.
Ian, both you and Nick bring up very valid points.
NOW DROP IT ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't make me get out my Ricky Ricardo Congas and start singing a Salsa version of "Kumbayah".
Come on Sergio...your sounding like final "lesson learned" in one of those "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints" Commercial that used to air.
Suits me fine. You and Vinman that is. However, I think the beer chugging, shot talking son-of-a-gun will admit I make him spew out his tequila with laughter sometimes. Some of the ladies here seem to be OK with the insulting Milanista....and then some.:cheesy::cheesy::cheesy:
++ [ originally posted by USA Juventini ] ++
I mean christ, I can't be your ONLY friend in here, Can I???
I mean christ, I can't be your ONLY friend in here, Can I???
I haven't been participating in many of the arguments with you Incubo, and I haven't got a problem with you.
But for your own sake, consider heeding some of Ian's advice, because he speaks the truth when he says that you're a bit tactless sometimees. As he said, apologise when it's called for, and back off a tad if you think it'll avoid more confrontations.
Personally I've learned a few things from your presence here, and I'm not insulted when you correct my factual knowledge, but I thinnk it may cut some people, even when you say simple things like "Get your facts straight and come back when you know wtf you're talking about"
But for your own sake, consider heeding some of Ian's advice, because he speaks the truth when he says that you're a bit tactless sometimees. As he said, apologise when it's called for, and back off a tad if you think it'll avoid more confrontations.
Personally I've learned a few things from your presence here, and I'm not insulted when you correct my factual knowledge, but I thinnk it may cut some people, even when you say simple things like "Get your facts straight and come back when you know wtf you're talking about"
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