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adams

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I just wanted all of us to be clear on the issue of racism.


I hate racism. I am against hatred or discrimination on the basis of skin color, culture, accent, ethnicity, religion, and gender. Im against the usage of stereotypes to insult or vilify or demean members of communities different than my own.

Agree, disagree or discuss.
 

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    http://www.sundaytimes.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,7034,15734656%5E421,00.html
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    Students quit over anti-US slurs
    By Ainsley Pavey
    26jun05

    AMERICAN students are quitting Queensland universities in the face of hate attacks by Australians angry at US President George W. Bush and the war in Iraq.

    One university has launched an investigation into claims an American student returned to the US after suffering six months of abuse at a residential college in Brisbane.

    American students have told The Sunday Mail the verbal attacks are unbearable and threatening to escalate into physical violence.

    Griffith University student Ian Wanner, 19, from Oregon, said abusive Australian students had repeatedly called him a "sepo" – short for septic tank. "It is so disrespectful. It's not exactly the most welcoming atmosphere here," he said.

    The Queensland Anti-Discrimination Commission has described the abuse as "horrible" and says it could be classed as racial vilification.







    The abuse problem is so prevalent that US students are being given formal briefings before leaving home on how to cope with abusive Australians.

    Mr Wanner said even female Australian students were verbally abusive. He warned the problem could "escalate into a very large brawl".

    "There has already been confrontations between people," he said.

    A female American student from Griffith, who wished to remain unnamed, said she had met some "exceptional" people in Australia – but was leaving this month in shock over her treatment.

    She said she was desperate to go home after the slurs, which also spilled over at pubs in central Brisbane.

    "They basically picked on me," she said. "At first, I thought it was a joke. Then I just had it out with them and told them I came here to be treated respectfully.

    "I have had a few incidents in bars. I had a guy and he heard my accent and he said: 'I hate your president. I hate your country.' "

    Another Griffith student has already returned to the US after enduring six months of abuse at the university's residential college in Brisbane.

    All the students received counselling before arriving and were warned of the backlash against the US.

    They said they were advised not to carry any items that would identify their nationality.

    A postgraduate American student at the University of Queensland's St Lucia campus, in Brisbane's west, has also complained to the Australian-American Association of being "persecuted" and subjected to "name-calling" by Australian students.

    Another American studying at UQ said attitudes towards him were "scary".

    "It's unbelievable," he said. "It's been war. People are scared. It is hard to be an American in Australia at the moment, it is really hard. It varies with different people, but you have to be quiet and try not to draw attention to yourself."

    Australian-American Association state president Marylou Badeaux said anti-American sentiment had reached a climax over the war in Iraq.

    She said attacks from the general public were mostly sedate – but had grown into open hostility at several Queensland universities. In some cases, US students and academics were being "persecuted" for merely having an American accent.

    "They are taking it out on people who may or may not agree but just because they have an American accent, they are being persecuted," she said.

    Ms Badeaux said long-time US residents in Australia noticed attitudes towards them fluctuated with US Government policy. "It all depends on what the policies of the US government are at the time," she said.

    Queensland Anti-Discrimination deputy commissioner Neroli Holmes said the alleged labelling of students as "sepos" could be classed as racial vilification under anti-discrimination laws.

    Racial vilification included public comment which incited hatred, serious contempt or severe ridicule of a person or group based on race or nationality. "It sounds quite horrible," Ms Holmes said.

    Griffith University spokeswoman Nicola Collier-Jackson said an investigation had been launched into the American abuse claims.

    She said the university had a zero-tolerance policy to harassment.

    "We don't accept it at all. We will investigate it. We need to get to the bottom of it," she said.

    The Colorado-based Australearn organisation – which teaches "cultural adjustment" to US students before they come to Australia – started warning in January of attitudes towards Americans over Iraq.

    Australearn's Australian director, Shelia Houston, said the briefings aimed to give American students "coping strategies" in the face of an attack.

    She said some students suffered culture shock because of the belief that everyone loved Americans. "We are giving them the heads up that it is a bit more heated because of the war in Iraq," Ms Houston said.
     

    Desmond

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    Jul 12, 2002
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    #3
    ++ [ originally posted by adams ] ++
    I just wanted all of us to be clear on the issue of racism.


    I hate racism. I am against hatred or discrimination on the basis of skin color, culture, accent, ethnicity, religion, and gender. Im against the usage of stereotypes to insult or vilify or demean members of communities different than my own.

    Agree, disagree or discuss.
    Hardly any room for discussion really.In full agreement.
     

    gray

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    Apr 22, 2003
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    I think racism's okay. Some races are just born inferior to others, especially those damn (insert race).





    Just stirring the pot a little, because I don't really see this one being as fiercely debated as say, abortion :)
     

    Chxta

    Onye kwe, Chi ya ekwe
    Nov 1, 2004
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    ++ [ originally posted by gray ] ++
    I think racism's okay. Some races are just born inferior to others, especially those damn (insert race).





    Just stirring the pot a little, because I don't really see this one being as fiercely debated as say, abortion :)
    :rofl:
     
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    adams

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    ++ [ originally posted by Shadowfax ] ++


    Yet you do it yourself....
    Shadowfax I can be responsible for myself. I cannot be responsible for your misinterpretations. Did you not read my disclaimer?
     

    Respaul

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    Jul 14, 2002
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    Not a miss interpretation at all... You chose to insult and hid yourself from it with a pathetic disclaimer... If anything your even worse as you hide behind a fence whilst you insult people

    And no a disclaimer means shit... By that logic anyone can go on any racist bigoted etc rant and jus right... oh by the way im joking i love those that i offended really... What a joke
     

    gray

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    Apr 22, 2003
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    ++ [ originally posted by Shadowfax ] ++
    By that logic anyone can go on any racist bigoted etc rant and jus right... oh by the way im joking i love those that i offended really... What a joke
    Can anyone say Burke?
    ++ [ originally posted by Chxta ] ++
    You were wrong gray, an argument is brewing in here...
    I must admit, I didn't see that one coming. Then again, Paul is a bit of a wildcard ;)
     

    swag

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    Sep 23, 2003
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    Nah. This thread is about as controversial as former first lady Barbara Bush's stance against illiteracy.
     
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    adams

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    ++ [ originally posted by Shadowfax ] ++
    Not a miss interpretation at all... You chose to insult and hid yourself from it with a pathetic disclaimer... If anything your even worse as you hide behind a fence whilst you insult people

    And no a disclaimer means shit... By that logic anyone can go on any racist bigoted etc rant and jus right... oh by the way im joking i love those that i offended really... What a joke
    :D

    if the stereotype was true, i might see why you would be offended. but its false. i dont even see how bad teeth have anything to with one's character anyhow, but your erroneous assumptions make it so that i "insult a whole nation and its people".

    but thats what really matters isnt it-character? funky teeth or not, your the same man or woman, no matter if your john lennon, elton john, prince harry, guy ritchie, david beckham, or mel gibson(playing braveheart in the movie by the same name). why is it that none of the other delightlful members of british origin found that offensive? its not because im a hot hunky superstar and they love me anyways (jaecole shh ;) ). its because it was in lighthearted fun, paul.

    tell me im an ignorant redneck, or call me larry the cable guy, or yankee, or spoilt, or culturally retarded, or corrupt, or hedonistic, or an sfa- you think i'll be offended?

    its like calling julia roberts ugly- its ridiculous and so obviously untrue nobody can possibly take it seriously. if you say to her "hey julia, sorry to break it to ya, but your ugly and you look like the underside of my doc martens after a rainy day's walk down an unpaved country road" will she break down and cry?

    on another note, paul- you've been attacking me for a while now. from the dual accounts business, to this now racism jibe. the first has been proven unfounded, while the second has too.

    wanna make it a hat-trick? maybe you'll even get "the golden boot" by a mod.
     

    Seven

    In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
    Jun 25, 2003
    38,189
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    ++ [ originally posted by adams ] ++
    I just wanted all of us to be clear on the issue of racism.


    I hate racism. I am against hatred or discrimination on the basis of skin color, culture, accent, ethnicity, religion, and gender. Im against the usage of stereotypes to insult or vilify or demean members of communities different than my own.

    Agree, disagree or discuss.
    The thing is racism isn't something based on logic. The way I see it racism is something parents "teach" their children. No one in the right state of mind would act like racism is alright in this era. People used to be scared of people that looked different, but really, we've learned there's nothing to be scared about. It's just that some people always go looking for scapegoats and what's easier than making an enemy of someone who looks/acts differently?
     

    Zlatan

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    Jun 9, 2003
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    ++ [ originally posted by adams ] ++
    http://www.sundaytimes.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,7034,15734656%5E421,00.html
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Students quit over anti-US slurs
    By Ainsley Pavey
    26jun05

    AMERICAN students are quitting Queensland universities in the face of hate attacks by Australians angry at US President George W. Bush and the war in Iraq.

    One university has launched an investigation into claims an American student returned to the US after suffering six months of abuse at a residential college in Brisbane.

    American students have told The Sunday Mail the verbal attacks are unbearable and threatening to escalate into physical violence.

    Griffith University student Ian Wanner, 19, from Oregon, said abusive Australian students had repeatedly called him a "sepo" – short for septic tank. "It is so disrespectful. It's not exactly the most welcoming atmosphere here," he said.

    The Queensland Anti-Discrimination Commission has described the abuse as "horrible" and says it could be classed as racial vilification.







    The abuse problem is so prevalent that US students are being given formal briefings before leaving home on how to cope with abusive Australians.

    Mr Wanner said even female Australian students were verbally abusive. He warned the problem could "escalate into a very large brawl".

    "There has already been confrontations between people," he said.

    A female American student from Griffith, who wished to remain unnamed, said she had met some "exceptional" people in Australia – but was leaving this month in shock over her treatment.

    She said she was desperate to go home after the slurs, which also spilled over at pubs in central Brisbane.

    "They basically picked on me," she said. "At first, I thought it was a joke. Then I just had it out with them and told them I came here to be treated respectfully.

    "I have had a few incidents in bars. I had a guy and he heard my accent and he said: 'I hate your president. I hate your country.' "

    Another Griffith student has already returned to the US after enduring six months of abuse at the university's residential college in Brisbane.

    All the students received counselling before arriving and were warned of the backlash against the US.

    They said they were advised not to carry any items that would identify their nationality.

    A postgraduate American student at the University of Queensland's St Lucia campus, in Brisbane's west, has also complained to the Australian-American Association of being "persecuted" and subjected to "name-calling" by Australian students.

    Another American studying at UQ said attitudes towards him were "scary".

    "It's unbelievable," he said. "It's been war. People are scared. It is hard to be an American in Australia at the moment, it is really hard. It varies with different people, but you have to be quiet and try not to draw attention to yourself."

    Australian-American Association state president Marylou Badeaux said anti-American sentiment had reached a climax over the war in Iraq.

    She said attacks from the general public were mostly sedate – but had grown into open hostility at several Queensland universities. In some cases, US students and academics were being "persecuted" for merely having an American accent.

    "They are taking it out on people who may or may not agree but just because they have an American accent, they are being persecuted," she said.

    Ms Badeaux said long-time US residents in Australia noticed attitudes towards them fluctuated with US Government policy. "It all depends on what the policies of the US government are at the time," she said.

    Queensland Anti-Discrimination deputy commissioner Neroli Holmes said the alleged labelling of students as "sepos" could be classed as racial vilification under anti-discrimination laws.

    Racial vilification included public comment which incited hatred, serious contempt or severe ridicule of a person or group based on race or nationality. "It sounds quite horrible," Ms Holmes said.

    Griffith University spokeswoman Nicola Collier-Jackson said an investigation had been launched into the American abuse claims.

    She said the university had a zero-tolerance policy to harassment.

    "We don't accept it at all. We will investigate it. We need to get to the bottom of it," she said.

    The Colorado-based Australearn organisation – which teaches "cultural adjustment" to US students before they come to Australia – started warning in January of attitudes towards Americans over Iraq.

    Australearn's Australian director, Shelia Houston, said the briefings aimed to give American students "coping strategies" in the face of an attack.

    She said some students suffered culture shock because of the belief that everyone loved Americans. "We are giving them the heads up that it is a bit more heated because of the war in Iraq," Ms Houston said.

    Well, you can tell them to mail all their complaints to the man that made it happen:

    The White House
    1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
    Washington, DC 20500
    United States of America
     

    Dan

    Back & Quack
    Mar 9, 2004
    9,290
    #16
    Of course Im against Racism.


    However, what i despise is Nike cashing in on the racism issue for their own profit agenda (as all the other wristband companies have done) which is actually sickening to exploit such a touchy subject.
     

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