Juventus vs. Newcastle on 7-29-07 (3 Viewers)
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But you fail to see the whole point of a player like Tiago. He's job at Lyon was to be that player in between Diarra and Juninho who gets the ball to the people who need it, such as the Brazilian, and to make all the passes than needed to be made. You're correct in saying he doesn't have the passing ability of Almiron or the defensive capability of Mahmadou Diarra, but what Tiago does do for teams is be the reliable two-way midfielder who rarely makes mistakes offensively and defensively, being the player who works hard and does everything well to a certain extent.
You may not agree with all that and you may not agree that in my opinion all clubs need a player such as Tiago.
The fans didn't cheat, dude. Cannavaro lied to the fans... that's what you don't really care about.
You may not agree with all that and you may not agree that in my opinion all clubs need a player such as Tiago.
The fans didn't cheat, dude. Cannavaro lied to the fans... that's what you don't really care about.
Hi guys ...
i just came back from newcastle ten minutes ago . i decided yesterday not to write or read the match opinions since there were allot of issues with the way the team was playing.
i will try to be as objective as i can.
First. i was really impressed by the new players, all of them performed well. marcheonni also showed why moggi signed him.
Second. reneiri....... the way he is trying to play is not suitable with the squad in the pich. as tiago showed allot of defense and offense qualities he certainly cant do both (no one can). Newcastle succeeded in their counter attacks because tiago was far up front along with zibena.
another tactic i didn't really like is pushing the wings forward rather than the attackers. what i mean is when Newcastle attack trez and iaquenta go back to defend while neddy and marco stay upfront to hold the defense.
the defense started badly but by the end of the firs thalf they found their harmony.
midfield was very good but i would have played zanetti instead of almiron. thats not too defensive because i see that tiago has a great quality to be a playmaker.
the attack was bad. all english people i met were waiting to see trez shine but they were disappointed. IMO ranieri and DD are trying to make trez more than a 'fox in a box' by forcing him to pull back. thisresulted in him not performing as well as he should. palladino showed allot of quality and heart as he fought for the ball as if it was an official CL match.
Pros of what i saw: i saw great potential from the new players and the youngsters. also i got to sit in the first raw five seats from del piero
Cons: i really expected more change in terms of tactics. the team play fairly similar to last three years juve. i didn't blame DD since he was limited in the squad but ranieri have allot of choices fir the formation. I'm starting to think that we should loose the 442 to 352
no i will go back and read all of your comments
remember it is a friendly match and allot of errors are expected with the over haul we had. its okey as long as they fix it before the season starts.
i just came back from newcastle ten minutes ago . i decided yesterday not to write or read the match opinions since there were allot of issues with the way the team was playing.
i will try to be as objective as i can.
First. i was really impressed by the new players, all of them performed well. marcheonni also showed why moggi signed him.
Second. reneiri....... the way he is trying to play is not suitable with the squad in the pich. as tiago showed allot of defense and offense qualities he certainly cant do both (no one can). Newcastle succeeded in their counter attacks because tiago was far up front along with zibena.
another tactic i didn't really like is pushing the wings forward rather than the attackers. what i mean is when Newcastle attack trez and iaquenta go back to defend while neddy and marco stay upfront to hold the defense.
the defense started badly but by the end of the firs thalf they found their harmony.
midfield was very good but i would have played zanetti instead of almiron. thats not too defensive because i see that tiago has a great quality to be a playmaker.
the attack was bad. all english people i met were waiting to see trez shine but they were disappointed. IMO ranieri and DD are trying to make trez more than a 'fox in a box' by forcing him to pull back. thisresulted in him not performing as well as he should. palladino showed allot of quality and heart as he fought for the ball as if it was an official CL match.
Pros of what i saw: i saw great potential from the new players and the youngsters. also i got to sit in the first raw five seats from del piero
Cons: i really expected more change in terms of tactics. the team play fairly similar to last three years juve. i didn't blame DD since he was limited in the squad but ranieri have allot of choices fir the formation. I'm starting to think that we should loose the 442 to 352
no i will go back and read all of your comments
remember it is a friendly match and allot of errors are expected with the over haul we had. its okey as long as they fix it before the season starts.
i was just excited to watch the new Juve! was a bit disappointed!
poocastle would kill for a player like nedved in their squad, no1 insults neddy! :faq2: that alone is enough to get me all rowdy
even after they said that i saw the same people trying to get his autograph
they didnt insult anybody but themselves. i learned one thing though, if you want to piss off a newcastle fan just say that sunderland is a better team.
one of the told me that it is against his religion to mention their name. he meant sunderland.
sad
by the way blasi was training with the team.. i totally forgot about him
think about it.. they are not worth it. they worship the likes of martines (really) who is considered a joke to us juve fans.
even after they said that i saw the same people trying to get his autograph
they didnt insult anybody but themselves. i learned one thing though, if you want to piss off a newcastle fan just say that sunderland is a better team.
one of the told me that it is against his religion to mention their name. he meant sunderland.
sad
by the way blasi was training with the team.. i totally forgot about him
even after they said that i saw the same people trying to get his autograph
they didnt insult anybody but themselves. i learned one thing though, if you want to piss off a newcastle fan just say that sunderland is a better team.
one of the told me that it is against his religion to mention their name. he meant sunderland.
sad
by the way blasi was training with the team.. i totally forgot about him
Really annoying to see how some dramatize the entire situation. Heck chelsea lost to rangers in a friendly? also 2:0 does that mean they aint gona challenge in epl and CL? Valencia lost to PSG 3:0.
And dont now come with excuses talks, calm down, it was first time this new team actually played together in a competive match. The real thing starts in autumn, now IS the time to test.
And dont now come with excuses talks, calm down, it was first time this new team actually played together in a competive match. The real thing starts in autumn, now IS the time to test.
I'm watching the match for the second time, and I can't stop laughing at some of these comical missed shots by Iaquinta. What the hell was he doing? He totally blasted two shots comically over the goal and had a breakaway after a good move only to dribble right into Given. And the worst thing about it was that on two occasions all he had to do was slide the ball across the goal and we would have scored. Sheesh that was a comical first 15 minutes.
Almiron is a great player.
Almiron is a great player.
