Juventus Target Fernando Meira (10 Viewers)

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denco

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history cant help to justify players' ability
No but Spanish players tend not to suceed in Italy and vice versa for some reason. The lonly 1 that i can recall being really sucessful is Luis Suarez at Inter so many moons ago, and he is possibly Spain's greatest ever player. Great players like Guardiola, De la Pena, Mendietta have all failed in Italy. Ivan helguera did not get a look in at lazio. Farinos who was good at valencia flopped at Inter. Its not just about talent, you have to know if the player would adapt to his surroundings and if the style of play is to his liking.
 

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No but Spanish players tend not to suceed in Italy and vice versa for some reason. The lonly 1 that i can recall being really sucessful is Luis Suarez at Inter so many moons ago, and he is possibly Spain's greatest ever player. Great players like Guardiola, De la Pena, Mendietta have all failed in Italy. Ivan helguera did not get a look in at lazio. Farinos who was good at valencia flopped at Inter. Its not just about talent, you have to know if the player would adapt to his surroundings and if the style of play is to his liking.
so juve don;t buy spanish players.. juve is so good in statistic. :D
 

JuveJay

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It has to be Barzagli or Cannavaro now imo.
An Italian defender with Serie A experience.
Some may not want Cannavaro back, but I prefer to be less spiteful. How could a player of his age, World Cup winning captain and World Player Of The Year possibly play in Serie B?
I don't hold a grudge against him. From a professional level he deserves respect.
 
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It has to be Barzagli or Cannavaro now imo.
An Italian defender with Serie A experience.
Some may not want Cannavaro back, but I prefer to be less spiteful. How could a player of his age, World Cup winning captain and World Player Of The Year possibly play in Serie B?
I don't hold a grudge against him. From a professional level he deserves respect.
How could Biggest Italian team possibly play in Serie B

impossible is nothing

Juventus bigger than little traitor and played in Serie B
 

Bjerknes

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I am not sure why he is being maligned on here now. But I am not totally surprised, when we thought he was definitely coming, he was put in a poll as 1 of the best defenders in the world. Now because of shenanighans of Palermo president, he is way overrated and all that muck.
That's not true at all. I've personally never been all that impressed with Barzagli, even a few seasons ago when he came to fame along with Terlizzi at the back. But what some people fail to remember is Barzagli had the likes of Corini and Barone in front of him during those years and also the steady system of Guidolin. And even then I wasn't too impressed, but now people want to say well he had Guana in front of him more recently, so that's why he doesn't look as good. I don't buy that argument.

And besides, over the years the central midfield duos for Palermo have usually been Corini - Barone, then Corini - Mutarelli, then Corini - Simplicio. Corini is a very good player mind you, so you can't blame their midfield for worse off Barzagli performances.
 

Paolo Rossi

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Cannavaro is not a traitor. At 32 yr old he did what was right for him. How could he turn down an offer from Real Madrid when Juve was demoted to Serie B? That would have been just stupid. Now for those who stayed, more power to them I guess, but you cant call those who left traitors.

Also at the end of the day it is business. If Juve would had received a massive offer for him 2 years ago, they would have traded him, it's business afterall...anyone remember Zidane? are Juve traitors for trading him? Are they traitors for trading Baggio? The team does what is good for them, look what happened to Deshamps.

Cannavaro only has great things to say about Juve anytime he is doing an interview. I would love to see him back and hope he does comeback.
 

Bjerknes

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Cannavaro is not a traitor. At 32 yr old he did what was right for him. How could he turn down an offer from Real Madrid when Juve was demoted to Serie B? That would have been just stupid. Now for those who stayed, more power to them I guess, but you cant call those who left traitors.

Also at the end of the day it is business. If Juve would had received a massive offer for him 2 years ago, they would have traded him, it's business afterall...anyone remember Zidane? are Juve traitors for trading him? Are they traitors for trading Baggio? The team does what is good for them, look what happened to Deshamps.

Cannavaro only has great things to say about Juve anytime he is doing an interview. I would love to see him back and hope he does comeback.
Cannavaro lied to us, so you're talking apples and oranges here, dude. I don't want him back.
 
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Cannavaro is not a traitor. At 32 yr old he did what was right for him. How could he turn down an offer from Real Madrid when Juve was demoted to Serie B? That would have been just stupid. Now for those who stayed, more power to them I guess, but you cant call those who left traitors.

Also at the end of the day it is business. If Juve would had received a massive offer for him 2 years ago, they would have traded him, it's business afterall...anyone remember Zidane? are Juve traitors for trading him? Are they traitors for trading Baggio? The team does what is good for them, look what happened to Deshamps.

Cannavaro only has great things to say about Juve anytime he is doing an interview. I would love to see him back and hope he does comeback.
The bottom line is he left juve at their worst times and when they really needed him . The fact that he promised the fans that he wouldn't move also says a lot about the player .

In the end , yes , football has become a buisness and if there's an option for getting canna back for 1-2 seasons then i don't see why not
 

Paolo Rossi

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Cannavaro lied to us, so you're talking apples and oranges here, dude. I don't want him back.
Maybe he meant it at first, but realized that Real was a better move for him and changed his mind.

Maybe the team asked him to go cause they needed the money.

I still think taking him back would be a great move.
 
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Cannavaro is not a traitor. At 32 yr old he did what was right for him. How could he turn down an offer from Real Madrid when Juve was demoted to Serie B? That would have been just stupid. Now for those who stayed, more power to them I guess, but you cant call those who left traitors.

Also at the end of the day it is business. If Juve would had received a massive offer for him 2 years ago, they would have traded him, it's business afterall...anyone remember Zidane? are Juve traitors for trading him? Are they traitors for trading Baggio? The team does what is good for them, look what happened to Deshamps.

Cannavaro only has great things to say about Juve anytime he is doing an interview. I would love to see him back and hope he does comeback.
you called Del Piero,Nedved,Buffon,Trezeguet,Camoranesi stupid?

if they are stupid,cannavaro is carew's b.tch
 

Paolo Rossi

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you called Del Piero,Nedved,Buffon,Trezeguet,Camoranesi stupid?

if they are stupid,cannavaro is carew's b.tch
I never called those guys stupid. What is right for one player, might not be right for another. Comon, you cant blame a guy for wanting to leave a team that has been demoted to Serie B for a team thats considered by many (not me :disagree: ) the best in the world and playing in Champions League. The guy is a Golden Ball winner. He deserve to play at the highest level.

Now, I love those who stayed (they all deserved to be playing at the highest level as well), but I wouldnt have hated them if they had decided to leave. For me as long as they dont bash the team, I'm happy. Like I said before, Cannavaro only has great things to say about our team.

Whatever, I guess this will always be a sensitive topic between all the Juve supporters and I guess I dont blame you for feeling the way you do. I would have loved for everyone to have stayed and show support for Juve in our worst year ever.
 

Jem83

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I never called those guys stupid. What is right for one player, might not be right for another. Comon, you cant blame a guy for wanting to leave a team that has been demoted to Serie B for a team thats considered by many (not me :disagree: ) the best in the world and playing in Champions League. The guy is a Golden Ball winner. He deserve to play at the highest level.

Now, I love those who stayed (they all deserved to be playing at the highest level as well), but I wouldnt have hated them if they had decided to leave. For me as long as they dont bash the team, I'm happy. Like I said before, Cannavaro only has great things to say about our team.

Whatever, I guess this will always be a sensitive topic between all the Juve supporters and I guess I dont blame you for feeling the way you do. I would have loved for everyone to have stayed and show support for Juve in our worst year ever.
:howler:

He played for us for two years, and he will "always" be a sensitive topic for Juve fans? Hell no. As things turned out in the end, we will forever stand with nothing to show for in terms of silverware during the time he spent here, so don't be surprised if no one remembers he ever played for us ten years from now. I for one, will always remember him as a player who became better by coming to Juve, and who left the ship when it started to sink. Thankfully, the true heroes that are Del Piero, Nedved, Buffon, Trezeguet, Camoranesi and all who dug deep to get us out of trouble we were in have all remained with us, players that will live on in our memories forever. Unlike this Napolitan douche.

See, it ain't about football. It's all about Juve. Either you are with us or against us.
 

denco

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Maybe in future some of you would becoame famous and every time you go back on your word intentionally on not, you could be open to scrutiny. Yes none of here has ever gone back on their word. cannavaro at the age of 33, just won the world cup and he gets a chance to join Real madrid, but somehow he supposed to say sod that, i am staying with Juventus. Yeah yeah Dp, Trez, Nedved, Camoranesi and Buffon stayed. But what happened, thruout the season Buffon, Trez and Camoranesi were almost on a daily basis either threatening to leave or telling the board to make the club competitive or they would leave. It would have been impossible from a financial point of view to keep all thos e players. Dp and Nedved, would never have gotten anywhere near what they are currently getting at Juventus, so why should they leave. If Dp was 27 or if he had a great world cup, abd big teams came in for him, do you really think he would have stayed? This is the same guy who said it himself, that he would have left if Capello stayed at the club. Buffon was begged to stay because if he left it might have been a mass exodus so the club really needed him to stay. The need for Zambrotta, Thuram, Emerson, Zlatan, Vieira and Cannavaro was not as great as they needed to balacne the books and it was necessary to trim the squad. I suppose its alright to treat players like Miccolli like a piece of meat but its not okay for these players to wanna better themselves because of deluded fans who would have abandoned ship if they were in the same shoes.
@ Andy, I still feel Barzagli is a very good defender and one of the most skilful on the ball. Corrini is a very good player but he is more of a ball playing midfielder, not a ball winner, so I don't see what that has got to do with Barzagli form. Simplicio was hopeless last season anyways. What are you talking about Guidolin like he was not the manager last season as well so how does he affect Barzagli's form in any way? Every defender struggles if there is little protection from the midfield. My point was that if a player signs for Juventus, then he is suddenly world class or a good player but if he does not sign he is overrated ie Milito and Barzagli. All of a sudden Almiron and Tiago are meant to ooze class because they signed for Juventus? whe we signed Boumsong, some people were actually thinking he would improve dramatically because he signed for us. There is a line between wishing someone well and just plain delusion. Kovac, the same thing.
 
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    Maybe he meant it at first, but realized that Real was a better move for him and changed his mind.

    Maybe the team asked him to go cause they needed the money.

    I still think taking him back would be a great move.
    a hypocrite is worse than a liar...and it wont be a gr8 move either coz he himself said that he cant play the whole season...our backups are hardly extraordinary
     
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