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JuveJay

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He means the pronunciation of the letter. In Italian they often say "kappa" (probably because of southern Greek influence), whereas in English we pronounce it "kay".

There is no need for it in Italian as the C does the same job for 3/5 of vowels, and "ch" is used for others.
 

JuveJay

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1905, 21, 31 and 71 were definitely bulls. Does anyone know anything about why or when we changed i know the zebra represents our stripes but 90 and 2004 are arguably bulls too.
1929 and 79 are the only ones as zebras, yes.

The bull is on the coat of arms of Turin:

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This goes back to Roman times, at least associating the "Taur" part with the bull. The pre-Roman people were Celtics called Taurini, but this word probably comes from the Celtic for "mountain people".

Bit of a side note, but when Hannibal famously passed over the Alps with his army (including elephants) to attack Rome from the north, he encountered the Taurini and took their capital after several days of siege.
 

Elvin

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It's not two Js ffs, there is meaning in the logo: the Scudetto shield's outline, the subtle stripes and the J itself.

Also I agree with the above post about our oval logo being copied like crazy; and us identying with the letter J makes total sense. There are a ton of Reals, Bs, and Ms in football world, but only one J.
 

Snobist

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Because it's not a badge for a football club with that age and tradition Juve got, there's certain clubs where you just don't change a logo that radically. But if you like it then it's fine, not like we have to agree on that anyway :tup:
As you can see Juve changed the logo way too many times. Probably in 2004 some werent happy with the new logo.
 

BayernFan

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I highly doubt that. All these 4 badges are too unique and strong in their identity that you need to change them.

Barca and Bayern have strong identities to their regions in Spain and Germany which their logos indicates. Real being the Royal club, also no need to change there. Man United with their sailing/dock traditions after building their own ship canal.

No need to change that. BMW also got the Bayern flag in it as well as Bayern Munich , so already there is there another strong Factor in identity and brand.
 
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Elvin

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I highly doubt that. All these 4 badges are too unique and strong in their identity that you need to change them.

Barca and Bayern have strong identities to their regions in Spain and Germany which their logos indicates. Real being the Royal club, also no need to change there. Man United with their sailing/dick traditions after building their own ship canal.

No need to change that. BMW also got the Bayern flag in it as well as Bayern Munich , so already there is there another strong Factor in identity and brand.
That's another thing bro: Juve has never been much attached to anywhere geographically or ideologically. It's different for us.
 
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JuveJay

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I highly doubt that. All these 4 badges are too unique and strong in their identity that you need to change them.

Barca and Bayern have strong identities to their regions in Spain and Germany which their logos indicates. Real being the Royal club, also no need to change there. Man United with their sailing/dick traditions after building their own ship canal.

No need to change that. BMW also got the Bayern flag in it as well as Bayern Munich , so already there is there another strong Factor in identity and brand.
Yes, that's the difference. Sure it's sad that we have lost the link to Turin but anyone who knows Juve knows it's an Italian team above a Turin team. and the goal has always been to be an international team.

You can't imagine a scenario where Bayern loses their Bavarian flag, Barcelona their flag or Real Madrid their crown (or royal moniker) from their emblems. Those are important regional and national ties that Juve doesn't have, so it's different. Plus Torino are called 'Il Toro' and have the local claim to the city. Juve can keep producing blue kits every now and then in homage to the House of Savoy, not all traditions have to die.
 
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