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Xperd

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Stop your accusations and realise how crappy your post is.

Playmaker isnt just creativity, its so much more.


At palermo, vasquez wad the guy asking balls and finding dybala who moved into spaces.

Tevez did a simular thing n asking balls, morata searches space for a run trough

We currently only have players who run into space, none that cab hold and distribute it highk
Dybala can do that.

That was my point.
 

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Zacheryah

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    Dybala can do that.

    That was my point.
    No, thats not Dybala's game. Dybala is a player that likes to move around and find space, and receives passes there. He should get the ball and then do something with it, other then keep it for the rest of the team to move up.
     

    Osman

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    Read all your posts in the last few pages.You are just more insistent on proving people on how good your tactical know how is instead of responding objectively.
    It's like 'I know tactics better than anyone so I am just going to have a different opinion for the sake of it'

    And if you think Tevez is a 'playmaking' SS as per your definition, then you haven't seen Dybala enough or you basically have no clue how he plays.

    Draxler isn't a playmaker either so what you're going to say next ? Are you going to contradict yourself again ?

    You love digging one deep hole after another don't you.All this for the sake of boasting on an internet forum that you understand thetactical side of football better than anyone else.
    That's why I said he was just randomly saying adjectives and basic football terms while making it sound he was saying something in earlier posts to Pirlo beard poster. Just because you make a long post beating yourself in the chest doesn't mean you saying anything truly.
     
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    Zacheryah

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    That's why I said he was just randomly saying adjectives and basic football terms while making it sound he was saying something in earlier posts to Pirlo beard poster. Just because you make a long post beating yourself in the chest doesn't mean you saying anything truly.
    Dont be angry. Your post has no reason, we agreed earlyer.


    Draxler would add the ball retention up front we need. Without draxler, we lack it and need to resort to other ways. I dont see any other way then 3-5-2
     

    Xperd

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    Are you basing this off one game on a potato field that Dybala is incapable of ball retention ?

    Draxler isn't any different from Dybala in my view.He's a winger type that 'likes' to play in the center from what I read.
     

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    We won't go back to the 352 permanently but we will use it sparingly IMO from time to time as dictated by injuries/suspensions or tactical reasons.

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    Are you basing this off one game on a potato field that Dybala is incapable of ball retention ?

    Draxler isn't any different from Dybala in my view.He's a winger type that 'likes' to play in the center from what I read.
    From most of his highlights I've seen :)D) he seems to drift from center to left wing and does both quite well. He is pacey and has a great ability at keeping the ball close while running with pace...you don't see that often and its a nightmare to defend against.

    Hope we get him.
     

    Orgut

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    Dont be angry. Your post has no reason, we agreed earlyer.


    Draxler would add the ball retention up front we need. Without draxler, we lack it and need to resort to other ways. I dont see any other way then 3-5-2
    The thing about Draxler is that he is a good player very talented very fast good dribbler great teamwork BUT not exactly prolific and not exactly the organizer but more of another player in the team
    I think Isco Ribery Reus are the best ones fitted to our needs but explosive players such as J.Rodriguez would be amazing in some other way both types would take us a step further but we do need one of those

    By the way by saying those names - It is just to show you the type of player we should be after not saying any of them are reachable...
     

    Osman

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    Dont be angry. Your post has no reason, we agreed earlyer.


    Draxler would add the ball retention up front we need. Without draxler, we lack it and need to resort to other ways. I dont see any other way then 3-5-2
    I'm not angry, just saying you made some really poor posts in earlier pages where you tried to lecture someone without saying anything.


    And yeah Draxler would add some of what we need, even if he is more of explosive counter type player.


    And we are defenitely better off with a 4-3-1-2, even if lacking enough options in midfield. 3-5-2 is played when we are missing too many players and can have an extra defender instead to make do, or during games when we need to close down shop.
     

    Xperd

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    We won't go back to the 352 permanently but we will use it sparingly IMO from time to time as dictated by injuries/suspensions or tactical reasons.

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    From most of his highlights I've seen :)D) he seems to drift from center to left wing and does both quite well. He is pacey and has a great ability at keeping the ball close while running with pace...you don't see that often and its a nightmare to defend against.

    Hope we get him.
    Aka characteristics of a winger.

    He's a pacy direct player that doesn't have the characteristics of a proper tq or playmaking cam or whatever the experts are saying.

    If we get him, expect us to play a lot more on the counter.
     
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    Zacheryah

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    Yeah, tried to fix that, tho it still seemed obvious to me

    But a 4-3-1-2 doesnt work when you dont have a player that can keep the ball.


    And remember that i was a big advocate of us playing like that last season.

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    Aka characteristics of a winger.

    He's a pacy direct player that doesn't have the characteristics of a proper tq or playmaking cam or whatever the experts are saying.

    If we get him, expect us to play a lot more on the counter.
    We are playing on the counter regardless with this group of players. Not much of a choise
     

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    Aka characteristics of a winger.

    He's a pacy direct player that doesn't have the characteristics of a proper tq or playmaking cam or whatever the experts are saying.

    If we get him, expect us to play a lot more on the counter.
    I love his shots outside the box too.

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    Yeah, tried to fix that, tho it still seemed obvious to me

    But a 4-3-1-2 doesnt work when you dont have a player that can keep the ball.


    And remember that i was a big advocate of us playing like that last season.

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    We are playing on the counter regardless with this group of players. Not much of a choise
    we sold him to bayern :snoop:


    i keeeed
     

    Xperd

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    Yeah, tried to fix that, tho it still seemed obvious to me

    But a 4-3-1-2 doesnt work when you dont have a player that can keep the ball.


    And remember that i was a big advocate of us playing like that last season.

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    We are playing on the counter regardless with this group of players. Not much of a choise
    Yeah but we won't be playing 3-5-2 as the main formation
     
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    Zacheryah

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    Yeah but we won't be playing 3-5-2 as the main formation
    We dont have the ball retention in the final third to play something else.
    So i think we'll play 3-5-2 as the main formation in italy, and switch to 4312 when we want to play in the counter. Europe comes to mind.

    But without ball retention, you can expect another "bayern" game
     

    Klin

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    That's why I said he was just randomly saying adjectives and basic football terms while making it sound he was saying something in earlier posts to Pirlo beard poster. Just because you make a long post beating yourself in the chest doesn't mean you saying anything truly.
    Is that you during Mafia games? :p
     

    Carlos Primera

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    2-3 years ago I thought he would have established himself as one of the best players of his age group by now, injuries withstanding. I think he would flourish here under Imperatore Max, and would love to see him in black and white. I like this kids direct playing style and versatility. I think he'd absolutely kill it playing with our forwards.

    In saying that, Beppe's apprehension in paying what Schalke are asking for is entirely justified. €30 million is a princely sum for a player who did not manage to compete in more than 10 games the season prior. If reports are to be believed, the most I would consider paying is €20 million + €10 million in performance/ appearance related bonuses. If Schalke refuse, I wont begrudge management for walking away from negotiations. We are extending ourselves interms of liability for a player who could either take us to another level or, someone who might firmly entrench himself in our injury list.
     

    TheDr

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    If we do not get a big name AM (I do not consider draxler one), I think this off season is a failure. From what we have lost to what we have gained and compared to our competitors, we have helped even the playing field. I love Dybala, but outside of him we have regressed to the point we may not even be favorites. Mandzuik is nice but we had bigger holes to fill also including wingback.

    I will blame this on Beppe and Agnelli not being able to recruit foreign talent. Khedira was free and had little options due to his injury issues and the fact he is overrated. The fact we couldn't convince an Isco or gotze, who don't even start, to come to the UCL finals team is sad. Instead we are dicking around with a subpar 29 yr old defender in Siqueira adds salt to the wound.

    Beppe needs a Hail Mary bad.
     
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    Zacheryah

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    We need a predictions thread, seriously
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