Julian Draxler - AM LC - Schalke 04 (38 Viewers)
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Not really predicting more or less than the others I think the big one is getting that 40m now and running it to the bank.
Now, hoping the other two get fit and will resemble new signings to will the void of Vidal leaving while bing 40m richer is the point I think many are trying to make.
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Nobody puts Beppe in the corner.
Now, hoping the other two get fit and will resemble new signings to will the void of Vidal leaving while bing 40m richer is the point I think many are trying to make.
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Nobody puts Beppe in the corner.
Exactly. Bias.
And about Asa, im worried the most. People tend to talk like if he is just around the corner, and when he comes back he will be the monster CM everyone hopes. 1- the guy is mysteriously injured and like Lion said, he is a potential Pepe right now. 2- He will be used as a LB most likely since uncle path has no official replacement. Seriously...at this rate, asamoah will need maybe half a season to be able to be back and give his trade to the team.
What the heck are you on about?
Pirlo scored a single goal in the entire CL last year, and didn't have a single assist... I love Pirlo, but he wasn't in the slightest one of our better players in the CL last year, instead he slowed our play and made us look much weaker than when we had Marchisio in that position in the Rof16...
It hurts to say it, but Pirlo was probably our worst player last season (perhaps along with Licht), he really pulled the team back, while Marchisio was playing as a monster at his position.
Allegri definitely should have benched him, didn't do it for respect/keeping him driven/balanced relationship between players or stg like that.
It was great to see him leaving for the US, perfect move for both parties.
The lost of Pirlo the man, and the legend, is a sensitive one. NO buts of ifs..... but in footballing matters, he was hampering us. I have no doubts about this. Specially when having Marchiisio in such a fine form.
For a player with injury problems, they should expect a low-ball. I mean we offered ~22 million including bonuses, which is definitely very low.
We need to separate injury risk from player risk. Injury risk can be mitigated with games played bonuses, however, we should bear nearly all the risk for the player based on his performance at health, after all it is our scouting staff that likes the player.
If I'm Juventus I offer clauses that help mitigate risk (this is one I just thought of)
- 15 million base
- 20 million appearance based (payable based off a minimum number of games over the contract). So assume we use Serie A games @ 38 GP. We will say that it is "reasonable" if he appears in 25 games. So let's assume he signs for 5 years...Schalke will be paid 20 million * (1/(25*5)) for each game he plays in that period. At near 0 interest rates in Europe, you can't really argue much for time value of money. So if he plays 125 games over 5 years, Schalke will earn 20 million. If he is sold before that time, Schalke will get 50% of profit made on the player, up to the 20 million.
Examples:
1)Draxler plays 90 games and is sold after 3 years for 25 million because his performance is bad.
Juventus pays = 15+(20*(90/125))= 15+14.4 = 29.4 million + 50% of (25-29.4)=0...so 29.4 million total.
2) Draxler plays 50 games and is sold after 3 years for 15 million because his performance is bad and he is constantly hurt.
Juventus pays = 15+(20*(50/125))= 15+ 8 = 22 million + 50% of (15-22) = 0, so 22 million in total.
3) Draxler plays = 70 games and is sold after 2 years for 80 million because he is world class.
Juventus pays = 15+ (70/125)) = 15 + 11.2 = 26.2 million plus MINIMUM OF (50% of (80-26.2) = 26.9 OR (35 million)), so 35 million in total.
I think that is fair to all parties. Schalke wants to get paid for its young phenom but Juventus doesn't want to pay 35 million for an injury prone player. I believe if Draxler is healthy, 35 million is fair, which is roughly what United paid for Depay. If he isn't healthy, expecting Juventus to fork out 35 million is crazy. If he doesn't pan out due to ability, that is a different issue, and Juventus should bear that risk.
We need to separate injury risk from player risk. Injury risk can be mitigated with games played bonuses, however, we should bear nearly all the risk for the player based on his performance at health, after all it is our scouting staff that likes the player.
If I'm Juventus I offer clauses that help mitigate risk (this is one I just thought of)
- 15 million base
- 20 million appearance based (payable based off a minimum number of games over the contract). So assume we use Serie A games @ 38 GP. We will say that it is "reasonable" if he appears in 25 games. So let's assume he signs for 5 years...Schalke will be paid 20 million * (1/(25*5)) for each game he plays in that period. At near 0 interest rates in Europe, you can't really argue much for time value of money. So if he plays 125 games over 5 years, Schalke will earn 20 million. If he is sold before that time, Schalke will get 50% of profit made on the player, up to the 20 million.
Examples:
1)Draxler plays 90 games and is sold after 3 years for 25 million because his performance is bad.
Juventus pays = 15+(20*(90/125))= 15+14.4 = 29.4 million + 50% of (25-29.4)=0...so 29.4 million total.
2) Draxler plays 50 games and is sold after 3 years for 15 million because his performance is bad and he is constantly hurt.
Juventus pays = 15+(20*(50/125))= 15+ 8 = 22 million + 50% of (15-22) = 0, so 22 million in total.
3) Draxler plays = 70 games and is sold after 2 years for 80 million because he is world class.
Juventus pays = 15+ (70/125)) = 15 + 11.2 = 26.2 million plus MINIMUM OF (50% of (80-26.2) = 26.9 OR (35 million)), so 35 million in total.
I think that is fair to all parties. Schalke wants to get paid for its young phenom but Juventus doesn't want to pay 35 million for an injury prone player. I believe if Draxler is healthy, 35 million is fair, which is roughly what United paid for Depay. If he isn't healthy, expecting Juventus to fork out 35 million is crazy. If he doesn't pan out due to ability, that is a different issue, and Juventus should bear that risk.
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