Juan Manuel Iturbe Arévalos - Winger - Hellas Verona (12 Viewers)

[AOD4]

26.5 million euro is peanuts compared to what the rest of Europe is paying for a AM. But what surprise me is why now, Marotta didn't wanna pay for Sanchez when he left Udinese, for Aguero, for Dzeko,but suddenly he decides to go all the way for Iturbe. This will be the first time Marotta breaks the 20 million mark, and this kid is not even an international. It's interesting to see what this kid brings to the team, as so far I haven't been impressed by him. He reminds me of Aaron Lennon and Obafemi.

 

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[Ahmed]

^^ because we had a squad with a lot of holes and crappy players in those days, it is only now where we can start making expensive signings since the squad is pretty much or can be made complete with some smart signings.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

^^ because we had a squad with a lot of holes and crappy players in those days, it is only now where we can start making expensive signings since the squad is pretty much or can be made complete with some smart signings.

The squad will be even better once we rid ourselves of that asschinned cunt, eh @Ahmed?

 

[frzl]

well Porto made a tidy profit for him, Verona will get a small profit

eh? porto bought him for 4.25m in january 2011, so they paid 4m for a 17 year old.
they took quite a high risk and sold him 3.5 years later for 15m. in between they earned 2.5m from loans and afaik never actually used iturbe...
compared to that verona took him on loan for 1 year, he was an absolute key player for them and now they are guaranteed like a 10m+ profit without having ever had to take a real risk whatsoever...

i think verona really got the better of it ^^. not to mention that porto just sold a player for 15m who will go for 25m+ now


what i don´t get in this whole thing is iturbe´s role... he said he wants to play cl and praised juve in interviews.
now the negotiations are at a quite advanced stage and juve seems to have made a more than fair offer... why doesn´t he just come out and say "i want juve and only juve?".
why is he risking to get sold to milan who don´t even play in EL?
all according to reports obviously ^^

 

[Ocelot]

eh? porto bought him for 4.25m in january 2011, so they paid 4m for a 17 year old.
they took quite a high risk and sold him 3.5 years later for 15m. in between they earned 2.5m from loans and afaik never actually used iturbe...
compared to that verona took him on loan for 1 year, he was an absolute key player for them and now they are guaranteed like a 10m+ profit without having ever had to take a real risk whatsoever...

i think verona really got the better of it ^^. not to mention that porto just sold a player for 15m who will go for 25m+ now


what i don´t get in this whole thing is iturbe´s role... he said he wants to play cl and praised juve in interviews.
now the negotiations are at a quite advanced stage and juve seems to have made a more than fair offer... why doesn´t he just come out and say "i want juve and only juve?".
why is he risking to get sold to milan who don´t even play in EL?
all according to reports obviously ^^

Burning bridges is never a smart move. He'd take a big risk himself, not to mention the harm he'd do to Verona.

And one of the benefits if buying such a young player, besides the wages, is the resale value. Even if he flops, we can still sell him in 2 seasons for like 10 million. With a then 29 year old flopping Nani on high wages, good luck.

 

[ZoSo]

http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/2...entus-milan-crazy-to-spend-30m-on-juan-iturbe

I agree with this^

 

[frzl]

goal.com
i just glanced through it but it looks like this thread all over again:
- "should have JUST bought sanchez"
- completely ignoring wages
- just assuming that sanchez could have been bought easily before the world cup

 

[LiquidPLP]

It's definitely a risk none is denying that. I'm not sure it's Marotta's fault he didn't sign Sanchez before WC. Barca aren't dumb they knew it's better to sell after the WC.

 

[Mister]

GDS

 

[LiquidPLP]

GDS

They're about right only in 433 case IMO. in 352 those two will never play together and in 4231 I can't see Tevez playing on the wing when you can put him in the middle but it does sound like Conte a bit tbh.

 

[JuveJay]

goal.com
i just glanced through it but it looks like this thread all over again:
- "should have JUST bought sanchez"
- completely ignoring wages
- just assuming that sanchez could have been bought easily before the world cup

Barcelona were never going to sell him before the World Cup, because frankly that is moronic.

We get this every single time we are linked with a big player. 'Juventus can sign him for €xxm'. Then comes the news how we have offered something pathetic, and how we can sign the player in 5 minutes if we just go up to this magical and perfectly reasonable round figure. It's bollocks, big players go to auction and highest bidder. It's not in the interests of the selling club to do otherwise.

I honestly don't know why people continue to get caught up in this game.

 

[Mister]

Source - GDS FUll STORY

Marotta when he was asked about Juve's last bid (23m) for Iturbe " we will not go over, that's for sure"

Juve's offer of 21m + Quagliarella is also still on the table & Fabio has agreed to join Verona if the deal formalizes.

Verona are asking for 27m for Iturbe, but if a 25m offer is made by Juventus then it would be very difficult for them to say no.

Marotta does not believe Milan made a 28m bid for Iturbe

Juve only will offer 25m but Marrone could be replaced over Quag

Today Verona will meet again with Juventus. Verona ds Sogliano last night evaluated Juve & Milan's offers & for now Verona says "NO".

 

[Xperd]

Is it supposed to be just 23m or 23m and Quag?

 

[Akshen]

thats bullshit, we all know Marotta very well, he would never confirm to the media how much he offered.

 

[NinjaPoggy]

is he here yet?

 

[JuveJay]

thats bullshit, we all know Marotta very well, he would never confirm to the media how much he offered.

He probably didn't, I guess he was asked whether we would be increasing our bid, with the media filling in the numbers.

 

[juventino899]

Iturbe is not worth 26 mil end of story.

I don't think Marotta should go for this deal tbh

 

[LiquidPLP]

Iturbe is not worth 26 mil end of story.

I don't think Marotta should go for this deal tbh

It's not true. He's worth what some club is able to pay for him. If Verona says it's too little they have every right to do so.

It seems our management rates him highly; more than you do. That's it. I also think it's too much but I can't see alternatives tbh. After all those aren't my money and my responsibility

 

[Gerd]

Barcelona were never going to sell him before the World Cup, because frankly that is moronic.

We get this every single time we are linked with a big player. 'Juventus can sign him for €xxm'. Then comes the news how we have offered something pathetic, and how we can sign the player in 5 minutes if we just go up to this magical and perfectly reasonable round figure. It's bollocks, big players go to auction and highest bidder. It's not in the interests of the selling club to do otherwise.

I honestly don't know why people continue to get caught up in this game.

Story of our mercato summed up in one sentence . I hope it doesn't end up the same way with iturbe . It began nicely , but now it is starting to show the usual patterns

 

[Zacheryah]

http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/2...entus-milan-crazy-to-spend-30m-on-juan-iturbe

I agree with this^

Offcourse, its an idiot side with articles that are only plausible to idiots

goal.com
i just glanced through it but it looks like this thread all over again:
- "should have JUST bought sanchez"
- completely ignoring wages
- just assuming that sanchez could have been bought easily before the world cup

And the idea sells so well. Check the wishlist thread. Check these people who went like "just offer sanchez that 25/30mil and get him before the wc"

Why on earth would a team sell a player for peanuts, when weeks later, there is the biggest stage in the world for him, to show himself and boost the price ?

I also love how people assume "look if we offer xxmil, we get him now". Erm, no. Teams can just drag the deal out untill someone comes along that offers what they deem is acceptable

Is it supposed to be just 23m or 23m and Quag?

23mil i think, FI mentionned the 21+quag as alternative. Not sure tho