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zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
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Either would be great ofcourse, De Sciglio would be cheaper, would have lower wages, is 3 years younger and most important, worked with Allegri already and Max loves him. Darmian is better currently, more established, but we don't even know if Mourinho will sell. Would love both here one day
 

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Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,499
Yep, and that reason is meelans great management. ffs they bought Matri from us, hired and fired shitload of coaches, paid 20 something millions for Bertollaci.
De Sceglio is good, I think they are pretty much the same level with Darmian, except I like des crosses more.
He has been playing very very average for them for over 2 years now (besides being injury prone), not everything is excused by Galliani being inept...
 

Kopanja

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Jul 30, 2015
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He has been playing very very average for them for over 2 years now (besides being injury prone), not everything is excused by Galliani being inept...
I assume all other players performed like a wc there? Milan is in shambles, they don't have more or less permanent setup for 3 years if not more. You can't blame Galliani for everything surely, but you can't except from young defender to thrive there either, next big thing Romagnoli looks like crap for them. Put Rugani there and you'd get same results.

And in des case imho it's obvious that he has mentality problems. Milan doesn't have a wining mentality now, they don't have any mentality at all, ffs Brocchi used haka to fire them up. With Conte he performs great and he performed with Allegri.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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He has been playing very very average for them for over 2 years now (besides being injury prone), not everything is excused by Galliani being inept...
DS is cheaper and possible, while darmian isnt.

Milan and inter are ruining players.
Just like we were when we finish 7th twice
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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That's BS @Kopanja, it's not ideal set up that kind of chaos organization but what's with the senseless excuses of individual performances? De Sciglio has been average individually, there's mitigating factors (main one is injuries), but regardless if you can't perform in acceptable way and stagnate that's still on you. Romagnoli has been shaky on occasion but he has shown his individual worth, as has Bonaventura, Bacca Donnarumma, and to lesser extent Abate and Kucka too. Win or lose, you manage to hold your own in your position as those mentioned. While DC has had several years of living on next big thing reputation without not only not fulfilling it but stagnated or even taking step back by losing his spot to Antonelli.

He is young and there is time to improve, but besides age and being able to play both flanks, not much of anything is stand out about him, consistently that is, one good coppa game and one euro game does not make him as good or weirdly enough better then Darmian who not long ago was best fullback in the league. Until he proves otherwise with the eternal promise, DE Sciglio is fairly bland backup level player with occasional good crossing.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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DS is cheaper and possible, while darmian isnt.

Milan and inter are ruining players.
Just like we were when we finish 7th twice
I wasn't talking about possible or not, of course DC is more gettable while Darmian will be tough (tho still little possible). But discussion was about quality, some here underrate Darmian or overrate DSC.
 

MikeM

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Sep 21, 2008
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Darmian was headed for good things. I don't know about nowadays though. Every time I see him he's very mediocre. Could be because of what happened at Man U.

I think De Sciglio might have more potential right now. Obviously younger and cheaper, so that helps.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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They both have suffered with injuries and confidence afterwards, but in different levels. Pressure on Darmian to immediately deliver for Man U has been fairly big.
 

Kopanja

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Jul 30, 2015
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@Osman
Ok, it's pointless anyway. I honestly believe that Milan ruins (at least ruined, Montella looks like a guy who can make things work) players, the more you stay there – the more milan crawls into you. And I didn't say that Darmian is worse, I said I like des crosses more.
And if judging on last regular season, I won't choose neither of them to become our player.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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I wasn't talking about possible or not, of course DC is more gettable while Darmian will be tough (tho still little possible). But discussion was about quality, some here underrate Darmian or overrate DSC.
Oh Darmian is quite good. Shouldnt drop DS too quickly tho.
Classic case of player needing right enviroment.
 

Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
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When is he going to show that potential? At 24 he is like 3rd choice fullback at Milan and has had fairly poor season, there is a reason Milan are listening to bids, and it's not just because they are unambitious mid level team now. He is expendable.
He has been playing very very average for them for over 2 years now (besides being injury prone), not everything is excused by Galliani being inept...
That's BS @Kopanja, it's not ideal set up that kind of chaos organization but what's with the senseless excuses of individual performances? De Sciglio has been average individually, there's mitigating factors (main one is injuries), but regardless if you can't perform in acceptable way and stagnate that's still on you. Romagnoli has been shaky on occasion but he has shown his individual worth, as has Bonaventura, Bacca Donnarumma, and to lesser extent Abate and Kucka too. Win or lose, you manage to hold your own in your position as those mentioned. While DC has had several years of living on next big thing reputation without not only not fulfilling it but stagnated or even taking step back by losing his spot to Antonelli.

He is young and there is time to improve, but besides age and being able to play both flanks, not much of anything is stand out about him, consistently that is, one good coppa game and one euro game does not make him as good or weirdly enough better then Darmian who not long ago was best fullback in the league. Until he proves otherwise with the eternal promise, DE Sciglio is fairly bland backup level player with occasional good crossing.
I wasn't talking about possible or not, of course DC is more gettable while Darmian will be tough (tho still little possible). But discussion was about quality, some here underrate Darmian or overrate DSC.
They both have suffered with injuries and confidence afterwards, but in different levels. Pressure on Darmian to immediately deliver for Man U has been fairly big.
Well said.

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He was their best player in the Coppa final vs us
Judging players on 1 match... :disagree:
 

zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
51,816
Well said.

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Judging players on 1 match... :disagree:
Nope. I've been wanting Dr Sciglio for years, that match, as well as the ones for Azzurri which i also mentioned but you ignore, was just an example of how his performance increases when his motivation is much higher/when he plays in a functional team. Also, for those saying hes 3rd choice at Milan, why didn't Conte or the coach before him select those 2 instead of De Sciglio, who gets called for the NT constantly when fit, if they are better?
 

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