italia vs Czech Republic(22/06/2006) (15 Viewers)

Morra10

Senior Member
Apr 30, 2006
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Stephan said:
there have been some ideas from other fans in other forum,something like this

consider that cr have a good midfielders so italy could push from the wings

-------------------------buffon--------------------
oddo---------nesta----------canna-------grosso
---------------rino------------pirlo---------------
-camo------------------------------------zambro
------------------------totti/dp--------------------
----------------gila/toni---------------------------

thats not that bad but if were going to run that sort of 4-4-2 then del piero needs to play along side of toni/gilla, but id rather play the 4-3-3
 

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Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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Il Re said:
very true, i dont know if something like Toni-Inzaghi would work, i would like Del Piero to support Toni, and if he gets a good chance i think he will put it away

I think Del Piero-Toni or Del Piero-Inzaghi would work perfectly....It's clear that Gila-Toni can't seem to find their legs when playing together, they're both always on the offside, both can't open the game for others...So I say Del Piero-Toni or Dp-Inzaghi is something worthy in that match.
 

Stephan

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Nov 9, 2005
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i am not so sure what duo really would work. i saw some misunderstanding between toni and gila against usa. but i am not so sure dp-toni would work, i would prefer dp-gila in that case. toni runs around more the gila, but dp already runs around as well. I know it might sound stupid, something like capellos juve with strikers waiting up front. but i think we should have one target man, who would cause some problems/distraction for defenders, allowing more room to second striker.

ulfalusi or how ever his name is, will not play, so its a setback in defens for czechs.
 

giovanotti

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Aug 13, 2004
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The real problem is that we need to win the game,not just draw,because if Ghana win their natch we would be second in the group,facing Brasil than...so the winner takes it all.
 

Stephan

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Nov 9, 2005
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giovanotti said:
The real problem is that we need to win the game,not just draw,because if Ghana win their natch we would be second in the group,facing Brasil than...so the winner takes it all.
but czechs have the same problem. ;)
 

Stephan

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Nov 9, 2005
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i have posted this news twice already, but some of you had an "important" conversation here, so you missed it:

Baros may play against Italy

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Czech Republic striker Milan Baros could make his debut at the 2006 World Cup on Thursday against Italy.

The Czechs cannot afford to lose to Italy, or else they will be eliminated. A foot injury has kept the Aston Villa striker sidelined for a 3-0 win over USA and for Saturday's 2-0 loss to Ghana. But a recent MRI scan revealed good progress.

The Czechs' other top striker, Jan Koller, who scored the opener against USA, is unlikely to be fit in time for the clash with the Azzurri. Koller missed the Ghana match with a hamstring injury, which forced him to leave the opener with USA in the second half.
 

Stephan

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Nov 9, 2005
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who we really need is trez :D :stuckup:

he should have got italian citizenship, i just cant believe how he didnt start either game for france in the world cup.

toni scored a lot of goals, but i havent seen viola so much, it seems he didnt have or wasnt used to with partnership, somethis i guess it was with pazzini, sometimes alone one man target.

i just dont see a good connection between toni and dp.

pippo is also a big ? because i havent seen him with italy, where or how would he suit to this italy, what plans lippi has with him. ofcourse currently we can see he favours iaquinta, so i just dont know what to expect from pippo.

I just cant make up my mind about ideal striking partnership (either 2 or 3 strikers)

and could totti dp play together?

maybe then we should go with

-----totti----dp-----
---------gila/pippo--------

but i think i hope too much, as lippi prefers iaquinta over pippo.
 

Morra10

Senior Member
Apr 30, 2006
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na i think toni and del piero make a good combo but we havent seen them play alot together yet. i think lippi will start totti because he is lippi's man but i gotta say i will be shocked if del piero doesnt play because of what he did during the 35 minutes he played vs the U.S, he was unlucky not to score. i am hoping lippi will do the right think because it is one thing to bench a guy who is loved and not playing well but del piero right now is playing great and deserves to start up front with toni and totti behind them, and also oddo and cammoneed to be back in the lineup, it will be crazy if they all start and too see how many runs oddo and cammo create down the right.
 

Stephan

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Nov 9, 2005
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i hope players forget usa match. lets not live in past.

with a bit of luck italy can win this game. but everyone have to be concentrated on playing football not wrestling :D

usa-italy match was a nightmare for both teams.
 

Juve_25

Senior Member
Jan 3, 2006
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Stephan said:
i hope players forget usa match. lets not live in past.

with a bit of luck italy can win this game. but everyone have to be concentrated on playing football not wrestling :D

usa-italy match was a nightmare for both teams.
As the idiot from USA said...It was a War. I hope Italy vs Czech will only be a good football game. Where of course Italy wins :D
 

Boudz

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Aug 1, 2002
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Scenarios:

Italy wins and Ghana wins: Italy tops group and Ghana 2nd
Italy wins and USA wins: Italy tops group and depending on Goal Difference its either USA or Czech ... USA need to reverse the -3 goal deficit. if Czech lose by 1 goal which is the most probable defeat, USA need to win by 4 goals
Italy wins and USA ties: Italy tops group and Ghana 2nd

Italy ties and Ghana wins: Italy comes in 2nd and Ghana 1st
Italy ties and USA wins: Italy comes in 2nd and Czech 2nd unless USA wins by 5 goals
Italy ties and USA ties: Italy comes in 1st and Czech 2nd

Italy loses and Ghana wins: Czech comes in 2nd and Ghana 1st
Italy loses and USA wins: Czech comes in 1st and Italy 2nd unless USA wins by 4 goals
Italy loses and Ghana wins: Czech are +1 and Ghana are at 0. So Ghana need to win by 1 more goal than Czech does to top the group. If not Czech 1st Ghana 2nd
 

Bisco

Senior Member
Nov 21, 2005
14,420
Stripper said:
Scenarios:

Italy wins and Ghana wins: Italy tops group and Ghana 2nd
Italy wins and USA wins: Italy tops group and depending on Goal Difference its either USA or Czech ... USA need to reverse the -3 goal deficit. if Czech lose by 1 goal which is the most probable defeat, USA need to win by 4 goals
Italy wins and USA ties: Italy tops group and Ghana 2nd

Italy ties and Ghana wins: Italy comes in 2nd and Ghana 1st
Italy ties and USA wins: Italy comes in 2nd and Czech 2nd unless USA wins by 5 goals
Italy ties and USA ties: Italy comes in 1st and Czech 2nd

Italy loses and Ghana wins: Czech comes in 2nd and Ghana 1st
Italy loses and USA wins: Czech comes in 1st and Italy 2nd unless USA wins by 4 goals
Italy loses and Ghana wins: Czech are +1 and Ghana are at 0. So Ghana need to win by 1 more goal than Czech does to top the group. If not Czech 1st Ghana 2nd
basically italy has to win this match, it no longer is in italia's hand to help the czech rep reach the second round so now its every team for its self and this is much better for italy and will makeit focus on doing whats right for the team which in this case is avoid second place and therefore avoid brazil.
 

Bisco

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Nov 21, 2005
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Azzurri7 said:
I think Del Piero-Toni or Del Piero-Inzaghi would work perfectly....It's clear that Gila-Toni can't seem to find their legs when playing together, they're both always on the offside, both can't open the game for others...So I say Del Piero-Toni or Dp-Inzaghi is something worthy in that match.

i agree rab but how about if they play inzaghi and gilardino up front and del piero behind them, in other words he plays where totti played in the usa game where his main job was to feed the balls to the two forwards or shoot from out side the penalty box. i think aong with this cammo has to styart fromt he beging ths game, he can cross into the box and he has a good pace and good dribbling ability so we have more options on the wings and u have zambrotta who goes up the wing and has the ability to cross in too.
 

ZAF3000

Senior Member
Feb 14, 2005
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Stripper I'll take the liberty of fixing somethings in your post to make i acurate:
First is the Current Ranking:
1- Italy 4 points, F 3, A 1, D +2
2- Czech 3 points, F 3, A2, D +1
3- Ghana 3 points, F2, A2, D 0
4 USA 1 point, F1, A4, D -3

This is stripper's post edited:
Scenarios:

Italy wins and Ghana wins: Italy tops group 7 points and Ghana 2nd 6 points.
Italy wins and USA wins: Italy tops group 7 points and USA 2nd 4 points, Czech 3 and Ghana 3.
Italy wins and USA ties: Italy tops group 5 points and Ghana 2nd with 4 points
Italy ties and Ghana wins: Italy comes in 2nd 5 points and Ghana 1st 6 points
Italy ties and USA wins: Italy comes in 2nd with 5 points and Czech 2nd 4 points unless USA (4 points) wins by 5 goals
Italy ties and USA ties: Italy comes in 1st 5 points and Czech 2nd 4 points ahead of ghana with goal difference

Italy loses and Ghana wins: Czech and Ghana will qualify with each havng 6 points, it all depends on how much scoring will they do in the last match that will decide who will be first and who will be second.
Italy loses and USA wins: Czech comes in 1st 6 points and Italy 2nd 4 points unless USA wins by 4 goals or Czech wins by a greater defference than 1 goal.
 

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