[ITA] Serie A 2008/2009 (42 Viewers)

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Alen

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8. Franco Baresi (Milan)
All around the world Franco Baresi stands as the example of the invincible Italian defender. The Rossoneri withdrew his No 6 shirt when he retired after 20 successful years, and the tenacious Franco was subsequently awarded the title of Italy’s Player of the Century.
Spent all his career (20 seasons) in Milan, spent 2 years as a regular in Milan's defense in serie B, 18 seasons in serie A, and even though he was the most promising defender in the league in the early 80's, he didn't leave Milan even when the richer teams wanted him.
He deserves much more than 8th place.
 

Red

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Spent all his career (20 seasons) in Milan, spent 2 years as a regular in Milan's defense in serie B, 18 seasons in serie A, and even though he was the most promising defender in the league in the early 80's, he didn't leave Milan even when the richer teams wanted him.
He deserves much more than 8th place.
He, along with Del Piero, deserves to be ahead of Maldini.
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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BUT the winner should be Gigi Riva, simply because his loyalty was tested the most. All these players may love their clubs as much, and be super loyal, but Riva's was tested the most. To a degree Mancini too, and perhaps Totti after that. As in lacking more success then the others.
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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BUT the winner should be Gigi Riva, simply because his loyalty was tested the most. All these players may love their clubs as much, and be super loyal, but Riva's was tested the most. To a degree Mancini too, and perhaps Totti after that. As in lacking more success then the others.
I agree.
But we must make a difference between the situation in the 60's and 70's and today. The money was different back then. Check every league from the 60's and 70's and you'll see that some legendary and great players played for mid table teams. I mean, even one Pele didn't leave Santos because he wasn't going to earn much more in Europe anyway.

And Cagliari weren't the same as today. They were title contenders most of the time during Riva era and they even won the scudetto in 1970. So, it's not like he was playing for a small team.
 

Osman

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He was playing for a small team, but having quality player like him, coupled with few other decent ones, made them competetive for that era of their club. They had less money then others, and earned less then others, but competed because they simply procuded good players from their academy, and had quality coach etc.

There was a difference from now and then, but it was still a status quo and then the others. Even if the gap wasnt as big as now, because back then, you could competently build good teams without being super rich (basic foundations like good football academy and scouting went far), and not everyone buying out everyone when they hit it big, because the sport was less global, and players were contend enough to stay home, for some time atleast, not as frequent or frenzied transfer activity back then (hence a poor provincial team like Ajax ruled Europe then just by fielding youth products that were born and grew up around the stadio).

But still, the rich rich teams like us back then, tried everything to get Riva, with all the alluring promises, but he flatly refused and stayed with his small isle team.
 

v1rtu4l

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Mar 4, 2008
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Was really tough for Maldini to stay at Milan through all those tough years of no success.

Really eclipses Del Piero staying with Juve in Serie B. :rolleyes:
i think the european cup success does give maldini the nod over del piero, even when i personally think that the world cup titel does even that out. let's just wait a few years... alex has still something to give and he can truly overcome maldini if he keeps on playing like that ...

the only little flaw is, that he only joined us from padova in contrast to maldini who was always a milanista afaik
 

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Such a shame. I feel so sorry for Milan and Gattuso. Hopefully the same thing won't happen to Kaka, Ronaldinho, Pato, Seedorf and Zambrotta.:xfinger:
:D

i think the european cup success does give maldini the nod over del piero, even when i personally think that the world cup titel does even that out. let's just wait a few years... alex has still something to give and he can truly overcome maldini if he keeps on playing like that ...

the only little flaw is, that he only joined us from padova in contrast to maldini who was always a milanista afaik
What does winning European Cups have to do with loyalty?
 

Elvin

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Nov 25, 2005
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Spent all his career (20 seasons) in Milan, spent 2 years as a regular in Milan's defense in serie B, 18 seasons in serie A, and even though he was the most promising defender in the league in the early 80's, he didn't leave Milan even when the richer teams wanted him.
He deserves much more than 8th place.
He, along with Del Piero, deserves to be ahead of Maldini.
It may not be his fault, but I find myself losing some respect for Maldini cause of all this overratement (?).
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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Such a shame. I feel so sorry for Milan and Gattuso. Hopefully the same thing won't happen to Kaka, Ronaldinho, Pato, Seedorf and Zambrotta.:xfinger:
Wudhya talkin' about, dont be greedy ;)

Only Kaka being injured is needed for their season to be DOOOOOOOOOOOMED.
 

v1rtu4l

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Mar 4, 2008
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What does winning European Cups have to do with loyalty?
you are right.
i did not read the title well i guess.

but talking about this point, you could say that it is quite easy to be loyal to a team that is successful. it is a completely other story when you are obviously better then the other players and they always do hinder the chances for success.
 
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