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JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
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ironic.same guy banning members because of talking shit about referee.

next time try to read forum rules.when I said you are moderating this forum with using your ass,I was serious.

I can blame whoever I want and you can do nothing about this,as long as I don't insult another member or Juventus' staff.

referee of parma-inter match is undignified,robber,bastard,sob,mofo,orospucocugu,gangster,dishonored,dishonest...........
That's because your mind capacity cannot differentiate between a Juventus game and an Inter game. Do you know which referee you mentioned? Do you know which referee I mentioned?

Now go play somewhere else.
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
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Dec 16, 2003
72,692
Insulting half of the members of our club is really annoying, I agree. Criticising is understandable becasue it is well deserved, but insulting really gets on my nerves.
True, very true.

Lot of insulting has been going on towards our players, from Boumsong, Molinaro, Grygera to Ranieri and others..... criticizing them harshly is part of the game, but insulting them is out of the lines.

To me it looks very childish to insult a player, I always try to calm things and play on the bashing way and not insulting. Anyway in the past couple of days things have gotten better.

I'm not a fan of banning because I think the majority of us Juventini here are grown, but sooner or later things will require that. I just hope we don't arrive to that situation.
 

Bisco

Senior Member
Nov 21, 2005
14,420
True, very true.

Lot of insulting has been going on towards our players, from Boumsong, Molinaro, Grygera to Ranieri and others..... criticizing them harshly is part of the game, but insulting them is out of the lines.

To me it looks very childish to insult a player, I always try to calm things and play on the bashing way and not insulting. Anyway in the past couple of days things have gotten better.

I'm not a fan of banning because I think the majority of us Juventini here are grown, but sooner or later things will require that. I just hope we don't arrive to that situation.

may i also add that the majority of us juventini are alittle bit wired cos of all the recent stuff going on, from match results, to poor team management, to unaccountable transfer....etc so i think its just a phase most of us are going thru but hopefully as things get well we will be just fine :toast:

rab u know its hard not insulting players i agree it is not 100% right but i am sure u boil when u watch boumsoung ( its players like him that make me wish i have medical insurance bec man he is going to kill me sooner rather than later) and u probably feel like throwing sth atm olinaro every time he cant send in a decent cross, or even think of taking out that rusty shot gun and just blasting the tv set every time u see ranieri sub the best player for juventus to bring in another who is either played outof position or just thrown there with no supply. so just bare with us till this grey cloud passes by in complete peace.
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
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Dec 16, 2003
72,692
may i also add that the majority of us juventini are alittle bit wierd cos of all the recent stuff going on, from match results, to poor team management, to unaccountable transfer....etc so i think its just a phase most of us are going thru but hopefully as things get well we will be just fine :toast:

rab u know its hard not insulting players i agree it is not 100% right but i am sure u boil when u watch boumsoung ( its players like him that make me wish i have medical insurance bec man he is going to kill me sooner rather than later) and u probably feel like throwing sth atm olinaro every time he cant send in a decent cross, or even think of taking out that rusty shot gun and just blasting the tv set every time u see ranieri sub the best player for juventus to bring in another who is either played outof position or just thrown there with no supply. so just bare with us till this grey cloud passes by in complete peace.
thats what i'm doing bro. but things are going too far. there were even some racist remarks towards boumsong. thats unacceptable.
 

ZhiXin

Senior Member
Oct 1, 2004
10,321
may i also add that the majority of us juventini are alittle bit wierd cos of all the recent stuff going on, from match results, to poor team management, to unaccountable transfer....etc so i think its just a phase most of us are going thru but hopefully as things get well we will be just fine :toast:

rab u know its hard not insulting players i agree it is not 100% right but i am sure u boil when u watch boumsoung ( its players like him that make me wish i have medical insurance bec man he is going to kill me sooner rather than later) and u probably feel like throwing sth atm olinaro every time he cant send in a decent cross, or even think of taking out that rusty shot gun and just blasting the tv set every time u see ranieri sub the best player for juventus to bring in another who is either played outof position or just thrown there with no supply. so just bare with us till this grey cloud passes by in complete peace.
TBH I'm out of here because of these petty insults.

I can definitely accept situations or ppl that make your blood boil at times, but that doesn't warrant insults coming in repeatedly.
 

Bisco

Senior Member
Nov 21, 2005
14,420
TBH I'm out of here because of these petty insults.

I can definitely accept situations or ppl that make your blood boil at times, but that doesn't warrant insults coming in repeatedly.
i understand and i know these insults at some point have to stop but its just these circumstances and things will just return back to normal.
 

sateeh

Day Walker
Jul 28, 2003
8,020
Ah tell that to the Derbys and bottom clubs of this world.

Some referees send off players for very little tackles like Robbie keane against Birmingham and Mikel Obi twice.

Fulham have suffered from refereeing decisions as well this season but to be honest most of the teams that complain play rubbish most of the time.

Sunderland, another team that plays crap had 3 matches in a row where they would feel they were robbed by refereeing decisions.

Some players with their so called reps are not helped either as Ronaldo has been denied some clear cut penalties cos they feel he has dived when he has not.

Id rather look at my team's deficencies instead of whats going on elsewhere.


Referees and their assistants are just as bad everywhere it is just that caliopoli has put doubt in the minds of people and almost every decision is scrutinised.

I have seen Milan being awarded 2 soft penalties against them when they played Roma and last week against Napoli as i saw a similar incident when newcastle play against Bolton and the defender completely ignored the ball and just barged owen over but a goal kick was given
spot on there, thats what i've been saying since last year.
 

ZhiXin

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Oct 1, 2004
10,321
hey, i miss reading your post match report:smile:
Most probably it will be a bit different of others, because I'm happy with how Juventus is performing so far. I see them as a team that is just newly promoted and it isn't easy to be 3 place with all that controversies around us. But hey I always give Juventus some slack seeing as they are my favourite team and with the influx of new comers and foreigners I will just say that it takes time and patience for this new Juventus to gel, if you are interested in my opinions here goes

1. Juventus will never win the scedutto this season, but will get a CL spot.
2. Referees must piss me off every game by easily ignore Juventus and favour Inter for the exact offences made by players.
3. Players still need time to gel
4. Tiago and Almiron are disasterous. Boumsong, as always is also disasterous.
5. Grygera never really impress me.
6. Despite harsh criticism on Molinaro, I will still take him over Balzaretti anytime of the day.
7. Legro is the surprise package of the season. So is Chiellini
8. Giovinco, Marcisio, Criscito, Nocerino and De Ceglie are the future of Juventus.
9. Ranieri should be given some slack, come to think of it, it is never easy to get 3rd with so many setbacks for Juventus in which we already know. I'm so far satisfied with him, but this remains to be seen
 

Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
21,649
Tiago and Almiron are disasterous. Boumsong, as always is also disasterous.
:agree: Yet people wonder why are we bringing Sissoko and Mellberg. OK, these two are not the best buys you can get on the market but I am 100% sure that they won´t perform as bad as these previous 3 stooges. They can even become valuable to the team. Still, we are mising one midfield maestro and Camo could be that man if he overcomes his injury problems and stays fit.

Agreed on every other point btw. :tup:
 

ZhiXin

Senior Member
Oct 1, 2004
10,321
:agree: Yet people wonder why are we bringing Sissoko and Mellberg. OK, these two are not the best buys you can get on the market but I am 100% sure that they won´t perform as bad as these previous 3 stooges. They can even become valuable to the team. Still, we are mising one midfield maestro and Camo could be that man if he overcomes his injury problems and stays fit.

Agreed on every other point btw. :tup:
There are no guarantees, no one can predict how the players perform. It is just like saying I don't even know what will happen to myself tomorrow.

Hopefully that midfield maestro will be Marchisio/Giovinco
 

Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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Inter Declare Press Silence

Inter Milan have issued a “silenzio stampa”, press silence, reportedly because they feel they are being victimised by the press in the aftermath of Sunday’s match against Parma.

The Nerazzurri were involved in a hugely controversial 3-2 win over Parma at San Siro.

Trailing 2-1, they were awarded a dubious 88th minute penalty for a handball by Fernando Couto. Zlatan Ibrahimovic scored the spot-kick and then hit the winner deep into stoppage time.

This resulted in some furious outbursts from the Parma hierarchy, as well as Roma boss Luciano Spalletti, and Inter are unhappy with how the Italian press have reported on the controversy.

President Massimo Moratti has not spoken to the media since the game, and he has now been joined by Coach Roberto Mancini.

The club’s pre-match press conference for tomorrow’s Coppa Italia tie with Juventus has been cancelled.

There has been no official explanation by Inter for the press silence but it is believed to be because they feel victimised by the press coverage of the Inter-Parma match on Sunday night.

goal.com
 

Red

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Nov 26, 2006
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Inter Declare Press Silence

Inter Milan have issued a “silenzio stampa”, press silence, reportedly because they feel they are being victimised by the press in the aftermath of Sunday’s match against Parma.

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:lol:

I hope the ref gives them a penalty or two against us to make them feel better.
 

Dostoevsky

Tzu
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May 27, 2007
89,026
:lol:

Calcio Debate: How Many More Penalties Inter?

Inter Milan were awarded yet another penalty at the weekend – their seventh of the Serie A season. Carlo Garganese investigates the supposed favouritism towards the Nerazzurri.

"As usual, Inter needed help to win," blasted Parma Coach Domenico Di Carlo after his side’s hugely controversial 3-2 defeat at San Siro.

For those of you who have been living under a rock for the past few days, I will briefly recall the events of Sunday evening.

League-leaders Inter seemed set for their first league defeat of the season as they trailed Parma 2-1 going into the closing stages. In the 88th minute Gialloblu veteran Fernando Couto raced back to clear a Zlatan Ibrahimovic effort off the line, and after meeting the ball first with his head, it inadvertently took the slightest of brushes off his forearm.

The referee sent off Couto, and Ibrahimovic scored the penalty. The Swede then struck again in injury time to hand Inter a dramatic 3-2 win, and thus maintain their seven point lead over Roma at the top of Serie A.

Domenico Di Carlo was not the only Parma figure to slam the officials after the game.

"Everyone saw a header by Couto; only the linesman also saw a handball by our defender," thundered President Tommaso Ghirardi.

"Then there was a clear penalty in our favour in the first half [which wasn't awarded].”

Roma boss Luciano Spalletti, who saw the chance of moving to within four points of Inter snatched away from him, had a similar view.

“There were some suspect incidents at the Inter-Parma game,” he told Radio Anch’io Sport.

Cristiano Lucarelli summed up better than anyone the way that virtually all non-Inter supporters felt about the situation when he said:

“Inter scored in the only way they could have – from the penalty spot.”

The truth is that if referee Andrea Gervasoni was going to apply the literal interpretation of the law, then he was probably correct to award Inter the penalty. However it is important to note that when Couto brushed the ball with his hand, it made no difference whatsoever to the trajectory of the ball.

Enough with the technical arguments though

The bigger picture it seems is that referees are looking for any excuse to give Inter a penalty. You can bet your bottom dollar that any 50/50 decision (even 40/60 or 30/70 for that matter) in the opposition box is going to result in a spot-kick.

The week before Inter were awarded a quite ludicrous penalty against Siena after a harmless coming together in the box between Julio Cruz and Paul Codrea. The score at the time of the incident was 0-0.

Nobody can doubt that Inter, domestically, are the strongest team in Italy – that is self-explanatory. However the truth is that Inter have probably obtained 5 to 8 points more this season due to poor officiating.

With 19 games in Serie A gone so far, Inter have been awarded an incredible seven spot-kicks, with a number of these being highly dubious and more importantly, decisive. Thus at this present ratio – the Beneamata will win 14 spot-kicks by the end of the campaign. In return Inter have so far conceded just one penalty.

Historically it is well-known that the bigger teams obtain more favours from referees – this was evident in the past when Juventus in particular were accused of profiting from the odd-debatable decision.

The Calcio community is fast ganging up on Inter due to these repeated occurrences.

"It was a victory that could do more damage to Inter than a draw or a defeat," said La Repubblica's Gianni Mura on Monday morning.

Never was a statement more true, and there is a deep feeling of hatred really building up against Inter. In football there is winning and there is losing and teams need to know how to do both in the right way.

For the many years from 1989 that Inter never won a major title they were always bad losers. Now that they are the outstanding dominant side in Italy, it seems that they do not know how to win with grace and elegance either. Recent reports coming from Italy suggest that they have just declared a press silence, possibly because they feel they are being victimised by the media for the reporting on the Parma match on Sunday.

In simple terms – Inter are a public relations disaster!

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