Israeli-Palestinian conflict (13 Viewers)

[Dostoevsky]

Yep, and you are an idiot. Even a loser like me can see that. Believe me, it doesn't take much.

Cool. Thanks for the feedback, it means a lot.

 

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[Kopanja]

Cool. Thanks for the feedback, it means a lot.

No problem. Hope it helps you grow, even just a little bit.

 

[Ronn]

https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...ael-regional-security-realignment-2023-10-08/

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Thanks. A good reminder that a football forum is supposed to be filled with idiots.

A lot of idiots turn out to be right after enough time has passed. Any reading of history will show you that, and in pursuit of some perceived noble goal, humans are capable of any machination, no matter how deviant.

 

[Raphaël]

Thanks to the broadcasters for scheduling Arsenal - City and Israel - Palestine at different times.

 

[Hust]

Please consult Google Maps for further assistance.
Thank you!

What for? The rumint is they have asked Iraq, Iran and Jordan for passage. Don’t need a map for that.

original post was a question because I have no way of knowing if it’s true

 

[Ronn]

What for? The rumint is they have asked Iraq, Iran and Jordan for passage. Don’t need a map for that.

original post was a question because I have no way of knowing if it’s true

exactly. Now that you checked the map please check this link too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel–Jordan_peace_treaty?wprov=sfti1

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Hamas aren't coming back from this one imo. I don't know what the goal was.

 

[Ronn]

Hamas aren't coming back from this one imo. I don't know what the goal was.

I hope so, but it’s not an easy job. Complete disarmament of Hamas will come with the expense of thousands of Palestinians, and hundreds of Israelis dead. Not sure for how long Israel can justify a ground war.

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A lot of idiots turn out to be right after enough time has passed. Any reading of history will show you that, and in pursuit of some perceived noble goal, humans are capable of any machination, no matter how deviant.

So you think US has provoked Hamas into these terrorist attacks so that they can start a war and remove debt? (Not to mention debt usually balloons with war)

 

[duranfj]

I hope so, but it’s not an easy job. Complete disarmament of Hamas will come with the expense of thousands of Palestinians, and hundreds of Israelis dead. Not sure for how long Israel can justify a ground war.

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So you think US has provoked Hamas into these terrorist attacks so that they can start a war and remove debt? (Not to mention debt usually balloons with war)

I read the last two pages, and I'm about to believe that the US manipulates Israel to force Hamas to attack them and kill their own citizens to get rid of the USl debt because they need a war. OMG!

The last time I checked, Russia invaded Ukraine. So if the US wants an excuse for war, there you have a huge one. And Hamas is a terrorist group related to Iran, which is many things other than an ally of the US.

So at least wait for Hamas to start playing the victim card before you all jump on the train.

 

[Post Ironic]

Who are you talking about?

Dude has never stumbled upon a conspiracy theory he didn’t fall for.

 

[swag]

how come israeli intelligence didn't know anything about such a huge wave of attack?

Starfield

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I hope so, but it’s not an easy job. Complete disarmament of Hamas will come with the expense of thousands of Palestinians, and hundreds of Israelis dead. Not sure for how long Israel can justify a ground war.

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So you think US has provoked Hamas into these terrorist attacks so that they can start a war and remove debt? (Not to mention debt usually balloons with war)

I don't know what's going on.

Now that we got that out of it way, i also dont see the US as a monolith, and neither israel or iran for that matter. Institutions within a system will unilaterally act for self preservation or for their own convictions. But imho i don't see how whatever happened yesterday didnt have some insider assistance, who assisted, to what end and how, i dont know.

As for the debt question, it's not to remove debt but rather a get out of jail card. In a state of war, no one will stop debt ceiling increases, fed will print more money, inflation will all be chalked up to war effort, and not to mention production and sale of equipment to "allies".

I'm a cynic, and i don't put anything past someone's wild rationalizations.

 

[Ronn]

I don't know what's going on.

Now that we got that out of it way, i also dont see the US as a monolith, and neither israel or iran for that matter. Institutions within a system will unilaterally act for self preservation or for their own convictions. But imho i don't see how whatever happened yesterday didnt have some insider assistance, who assisted, to what end and how, i dont know.

As for the debt question, it's not to remove debt but rather a get out of jail card. In a state of war, no one will stop debt ceiling increases, fed will print more money, inflation will all be chalked up to war effort, and not to mention production and sale of equipment to "allies".

I'm a cynic, and i don't put anything past someone's wild rationalizations.

I work in defense industry, so I have no doubt that Lockheeds and Raytheon’s of the world love and promote war. But thinking that anyone provoked Hamas in storming Israeli towns and killing 300 is a stretch.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I work in defense industry, so I have no doubt that Lockheeds and Raytheon’s of the world love and promote war. But thinking that anyone provoked Hamas in storming Israeli towns and killing 300 is a stretch.

It's not so much provocation, but Intel and sabotage, and of course it's a stretch but the way things transpired they just don't add up.

 

[Bjerknes]

Another successful test of Project Jew Beam.

There will never be peace in the Middle East.

There, I said it.

Carry on.

 

[Raphaël]

This conflict is so boring and will never end as the extremists on each side don't want peace. The only solution is to completely raze the area.

 

[U Picciriddu]

This conflict is so boring and will never end as the extremists on each side don't want peace. The only solution is to completely raze the area.

Yeah it’s really a shitty situation, I don’t even know anymore which side is good or bad.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I hope both sides win.

Also, don't let this distract you from... aliens.

 

[Post Ironic]

I don't know what's going on.

Now that we got that out of it way, i also dont see the US as a monolith, and neither israel or iran for that matter. Institutions within a system will unilaterally act for self preservation or for their own convictions. But imho i don't see how whatever happened yesterday didnt have some insider assistance, who assisted, to what end and how, i dont know.

As for the debt question, it's not to remove debt but rather a get out of jail card. In a state of war, no one will stop debt ceiling increases, fed will print more money, inflation will all be chalked up to war effort, and not to mention production and sale of equipment to "allies".

I'm a cynic, and i don't put anything past someone's wild rationalizations.

I find it curious how the conversation about/criticism of the military-industrial complex has kinda faded from the mainstream post George Dubya.